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The pricing works out to something like 350K in Canadian dollars! :p

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I was one of the naysers beforehand, not seeing a use, but I was quite impressed with the presentation. There's a couple of problems though, $3500 is too much, and those gestures, it would never be able to read my hands, nor my eyes. It's a same, I might have bought one. This is one case where I'd prefer a separate controller and some mention of people with different eye problems and how they'd handle it. Of well, we do have quite a bit of time before it ships anyway. Maybe we'll see just that.
 
People seem to forget Apple sells a 33” monitor that costs $7,000. An M2 Max 16” MBP is $3500. This price point is NOT rarefied air for Apple.

And yes I’ll probably get one.

I got an original Mac for $2.5k, a PowerBook for like $5k, an iMac Pro for $4k. I’m not regretting years later that I’m missing this $10k. (Although had I invested it in Apple stock rather than Apple products it’d be worth millions. Who knew?)
 
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I was one of the naysers beforehand, not seeing a use, but I was quite impressed with the presentation.

I have to agree on booth parts of the sentence. Could not imagine this beforehand, but after the presentation I want one. But I am not really sure what for ;)
 
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Definitely gotta get it right, but man missing XMAS holiday season is a killer, missing Q4 or any year going into Q1 of the following, you’re going into the LOWEST consumer buying period of the year. Bonne chance.
My guess is that this model isn't meant for consumers, or even corporate end-of-the-year expense buyers. This first model may be mostly targeted to experimenters, developers, new experience bloggers, and the like, who don't just impulse purchase during some holiday or tax filing season.
 
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I think products like this really showcase Apple doing what it does best - integrate hardware, software and services together. Even if a competitor gets the exact same parts, they don’t have the OS, or access to apple silicon, or the developer base, and it’s all of these coming together to make the headset work the way it does.
I'm not going to put the specs or engineering down and I think the device has myriad industrial uses just waiting to be tapped into.

But as a piece of consumer technology where the best thing Apple could think of as a usage case was a zoom meeting, I don't think its any better than a $300 Meta Quest.
 
"The Vision Pro is priced starting at $3,499."
"Given the high price point, there appears to be a single model..."

Apple never uses "starting at" if there is no upgrade option unless, in this case, they are referring to the optical inserts for eyeglass-wearers (which are a separate purchase).

This also means that non-eyeglass wearers interested in saving up for this device may wish to increase their carrot intake immediately. Because if you buy these and then you find out later you need glasses, those Zeiss lenses will cost you even more.
Did they mention price on that or if you would need a prescription? Because I assume so on the last part, and that could make it very expensive over time.
 
Yah, but you are a big liar - because I can clearly see that person's eyes on the outside of the goggles! /s

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That is because you are seeing CGI projection, didn't you pick up on that. You hold the Vision up in front of your face and it is scanned into the device. This is the image that goes out on the internet and what people see in the Vision Pro's front.
 
It seems to be an astoundingly high price for a device meant to singularly consume content. For $3500, you could buy an excellent home media system with a projector for many to enjoy. It just seems to be such a lonely product.
Our home theater system is a 4K projector, Benq DLP, with a 10-foot screen and two second gen HomePods for sound. Total price less than $3,000. Every person in the room can watch it, while 4 people watching with these devices would cost $14,000.
 
Correction, so far a bunch of randos in this comments section, (most of whom complain about everything Apple does anyway), who haven’t even tried this are not impressed.

Read the hands on reviews from people who have actually tried it. Even in limited experience they are absolutely impressed with it.

My money is on Apple here. This isn’t the version that will become widespread obviously but it’s not meant to. It’s a high end/early adopter/developer version. The tech will improve and get cheaper and soon this will be a widespread and successful category of devices. I have no doubt.

That's OK. I respect everyone's opinion. Still, I think "not very impressed" is an apt description of the reaction of many. I agree that in a few year’s Apple might have a product a large number of people will really buy.
 

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So you want the battery to be incorporated into the head set. think about this.

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I mean it could easily be placed into the large strap in the back and eliminate the wire hanging to the side. Or have a built in battery in the headset/strap like other devices have. Doesn't have to look like a head lamp...
 
Did they mention price on that or if you would need a prescription? Because I assume so on the last part, and that could make it very expensive over time.
They did *not* announce the price of the lenses, but they *do* state “prescription required” on the website footnote.
 
I'm not going to put the specs or engineering down and I think the device has myriad industrial uses just waiting to be tapped into.

But as a piece of consumer technology where the best thing Apple could think of as a usage case was a zoom meeting, I don't think its any better than a $300 Meta Quest.
I think the bigger question is - what can't this device be used for in the future?

Many of the criticisms it faces currently will likely go away with time. It should become less expensive, thinner, lighter, hopefully battery life will improve as well. Maybe the headset can even shrink to a normal-looking pair of glasses one day. It won't be useless if you leave the controller at home because you can still navigate the interface with your eyes, voice and fingers. You basically have a 4k display right in front of you, regardless of where you are.

Social acceptance is something that can evolve with time as well (I recall initially feeling awkward about going outdoors with my first pair of AirPods because it looked so different, but wireless earbuds are now the norm).

But Apple needs to start somewhere, and I feel in this regard, the Vision Pro shows a lot more promise than the Meta Quest (because people have shown that they do not want Facebook to be a part of their future).
 
I don't think this will be DOA. Apple has spent years building up the infrastructure to support it. The Newton did not have any infrastructure outside of some large metro areas. It really is a illustration of Apples state of mind when Steve Jobs was absent. Build it and they will come, we hope. When Steve returned he quickly killed it off it just was not selling.

Apple can afford... both because of their money and because of the good will they have built, to slow play this new product line. That said if 2 years from now the headset still starts at $3500 and doesn't have a killer app investors will start asking questions. The Series 0 Apple Watch looked cool as heck but didn't work well... slow, the apps and features were slim, no GPS, no waterproofing, and on and on. Within 2 years you had the Series 3 which was a damn good smart watch.
 
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11.5 million pixels per eye. The square root of that is less than 3400. Maybe the panels aren't square, but the dimensions are in the ballpark of the width of a 4K monitor, so you won’t be able to see multiple 4K monitors at full resolution. A 5K monitor like the Apple Studio Display is 14.7 million pixels, so it's certainly less than that.
The dimensions are significantly larger than a 4K display, as I’ve already pointed out.

Meanwhile you didn’t saying ANYTHING in your comment about multiple 4K displays so that is irrelevant. So is your comment about a 5K monitor. Your original comment was this:

However, this also means that you don’t get a higher resolution than a 4K TV stretched out to fill the FOV

This statement is categorically false, as I demonstrated.
 
2 hr battery life. so your battery runs flat just before the movie ends.
You realize that there was a significant period of time where laptops had the same battery life right? Same with video cameras. People would carry around extra batteries on the regular for that reason. And those laptops could do a lot less than this device will do.
 
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The dimensions are significantly larger than a 4K display, as I’ve already pointed out.

Meanwhile you didn’t saying ANYTHING in your comment about multiple 4K displays so that is irrelevant. So is your comment about a 5K monitor. Your original comment was this:



This statement is categorically false, as I demonstrated.
That’s fair. I was primed by comments wanting to use the headset to replace a multi-monitor setup, and here I wanted to point out that it’s effectively not more than one 4K monitor. Yes, you numerically get more megapixels than a 4K monitor, but in practice if you use it to render a 4K monitor in 3D space at normal viewing distance, which is the comparison I had mind, you’ll have to subtract some amount for the surroundings at the edges.
 
$500 yes - then everyone has one and this tech goes seriously far as next gen…(sorry AMC)

I'd argue IF the tech gets smaller, the apps become more compelling... the price doesn't need to go anywhere near as low as $500 to blow up big... tons of people are wearing $800 Apple Watch Ultras right now, using $1000 iPads etc... I think you get the headset around $1499-1999 and it will be a BIG thing.
 
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