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Apple Vision Pro Replace Monitors?
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I think for me, someone who works from home and doesn't even get on that many calls during the day, it will largely replace my LG UltraFine 4K computer monitor as well as the TVs I would normally watch if I'm just laying around watching something by myself. Obviously if I'm watching something with the family it will be without the Vision Pro, but for my own personal viewing and computing, the monitor will mostly be for if I need a break from the weight of the headset.
I think the cameras as good as they aren’t might not be good enough to do that comfortably considering that the avp has a ppd of 40-60 and human vision requires 80-90
Also the cameras are 3.25 megapixels so I’m really not sure how readable things would be solely using pass through
Quest 3 has dual 4k cameras and AVP users say its pass through is far sharper and clearer. Maybe it’s the f2.0 lens?
I’m really wondering this too. My main use of the VP would be while using my drawing monitor, so it will probably be a deal breaker for me if it doesn’t look totally normal.
Besides questionable resolution, any chance of weird interlacing effects or something like that resulting from seeing a video pass through of a physical screen? Anything that might strain the eyes more than normal?
Except the Apple Watch or the Airpods. 😋
I should build myself a pornganizer which is simply a porn browser for Vision Pro just in time for sideloading apps.
One good thing about vision pro is that I can accept nude photos or look at sexts in public and not offend people who might be looking over my shoulder.
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I know a lot of people on these forums drink the Kool-Aid a little too hard, but as someone who owns a Meta Quest 2 and a PSVR (1 - I skipped the 2 as not enough decent games yet), you must be out of your mind if you think there is any world in which you would want to sit at a desk for multiple hours with an AVP on your head, using it as monitors. I can only imagine the headaches, neck pain and eye strain this will cause. To say nothing of how you will interact well with your keyboard/mouse/real world things whilst doing so.
Usual disclaimers - I havent tried an AVP - but its clear that Apple have not radically altered the design every other headset manufacturer uses, and may well have made it worse due to the weight.
Usual disclaimers - I havent tried an AVP - but its clear that Apple have not radically altered the design every other headset manufacturer uses, and may well have made it worse due to the weight.
So I stumbled across this today. It made for very interesting reading...
kguttag.com
"The original XGA monitor, considered “high resolution” at the time, had a 16” diagonal and 82ppi, which translated 36 to 45 pixels per degree (ppd) from 0.5 meters to 0.8 meters (typical monitor viewing distance), respectively. Factoring in the estimated FOV and resolutions, the Apple Vision Pro is between 35 and 40 ppd or about the same as a 1987 monitor."
Apple Vision Pro (Part 5A) – Why Monitor Replacement is Ridiculous
Introduction As I wrote in Apple Vision Pro (Part 1) regarding the media coverage of the Apple Vision Pro, “Unfortunately, I saw very little technical analysis and very few with deep knowledge of t…
kguttag.com
"The original XGA monitor, considered “high resolution” at the time, had a 16” diagonal and 82ppi, which translated 36 to 45 pixels per degree (ppd) from 0.5 meters to 0.8 meters (typical monitor viewing distance), respectively. Factoring in the estimated FOV and resolutions, the Apple Vision Pro is between 35 and 40 ppd or about the same as a 1987 monitor."
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So I stumbled across this today. It made for very interesting reading...
Apple Vision Pro (Part 5A) – Why Monitor Replacement is Ridiculous
Introduction As I wrote in Apple Vision Pro (Part 1) regarding the media coverage of the Apple Vision Pro, “Unfortunately, I saw very little technical analysis and very few with deep knowledge of t…
"The original XGA monitor, considered “high resolution” at the time, had a 16” diagonal and 82ppi, which translated 36 to 45 pixels per degree (ppd) from 0.5 meters to 0.8 meters (typical monitor viewing distance), respectively. Factoring in the estimated FOV and resolutions, the Apple Vision Pro is between 35 and 40 ppd or about the same as a 1987 monitor."
One thing he is not taking his analysis is how big people will blow up their screens. Which changes the pixel per degree Outlook. People are going to make the windows pretty huge. And the UI ease of moving things forward back with an infinite 3D canvas can augment that weakness. I don’t think pixel density issues will be the weak point as much as mass fatigue on the head.
Of course maybe he’s right. We wont know till we use it.
Also, I think the goggles are a dev/enthusiast device. We are moving towards glasses in around 5 years, and that will change many of the fatigue problems.
Time will tell.
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The human brain make all soft of assumptions to make you "feel" the scale of things based on many informations about what you see.
That's why this "illusion" work :
Same reason you still feel that an IMAX screen is huge even though if you are far in the theater you could probably bring your phone close enough for the image to occupy the same exact % of your field of vision. Your brain will always "feel" the tiny iPhone screen for what it is : tiny.
So, Vision Pro supposedly will be able to trick your brain into believing that the screen in front of you is actually huge. That's a different experience than a screen on your desk.
However, I don't think that this "feeling" has that much value other than movies. If you are to look at floating panels to read text, the feeling of size will not really matter.
I think that could be possible with the tech, but Apple are not really making decisions in that directions so far.
Just the fact that the computing aspect of the Vision Pro is made in the headset, it mean that ultimately, like a computer, you will want to change it after some year.
If I were to buy an XDR tomorrow, or even the Studio display, I would expect to keep using them longer than I would a computer. But the fact that Vision Pro IS a computer make that unrealistic. In 3 years will you still be happy with a M2 ? (Especially if some developpers start making some really cool 3D app/game that look way better and run smoother on the new M4 Vision Pro ?)
I believe personally that this is a mistake. Even though I understand it would involve massive software engineering efforts, I would much prefer for Apple to tweak macOS in such a way that you connect a thunderbolt cable from your Mac to your Vision Pro and have the Mac become the computing part of Vision Pro, being able to show Mac windows as separate floating tiles. Vision Pro apps being run the Mac instead of the Vision Pro itself. That I could imagine making the Vision Pro a "screen replacement".
(I also believe that it's a massive mistake from Apple to run a closed OS on the Vision Pro. It should be a Mac, not another "iOS-like" device.)