Yes, it’s a hard story for the Mac rumours moaners to take the shine off, but I’m sure give it some time and they will have a go and a big win for Apple both technology wise and for any future advertising
I actually had some episodes of Afib a while back (for the first time). I felt it and my Apple Watch also reported it.How many cardiologists actually take into account what the watch is reporting?
Dr = Yes your watch says AFIB, but our ECG says there are no signs of AFIB and you have no family history.
What? Maybe in some other country but not in the US.Why does enabling AFib history turn off irregular rhythm notifications? And why do you have to be diagnosed with atrial fibrillation by a doctor to enable this feature?
It's just been qualified by the FDA. This is completely counterintuitive.
The story might be a bit more complicated than that. Devices that are intended to be used as medical devices does need to meet certain data criteria for review and approval. I could be wrong but I would think that in the case of Apple, they weren't claiming the feature to be anything more than a wellness device in the beginning so it didn't need to meet a certain criteria.The problem Apple is and will run up against is that the FDA move so slowly to approve things. I guess this was understandable in the past when people had to be recruited for studies and low numbers of people meant there either needed to be multiple studies or long duration studies, but given how prevalent the Apple Watch is, it sounds like study groups can be much larger and the studies get a lot of 24/7 data (whilst the watch is warn). I really hope that using these type wearables can lead to more rapid studies and approvals moving forwards.
Hmm. It's not good because it's better not to know? What? It saves lives and you're wondering if that's all it is?I’m not exactly sure this is a good thing. I’m sure this is great for Apple since they’re trying to push the Apple Watch as a health device, and they’re generally trying to go after the health market. But is that all it is?
All cardiologists look at the report. They may have issues with it in some regards, but they will test the findings with their own equipment and analysis.How many cardiologists actually take into account what the watch is reporting?
Dr = Yes your watch says AFIB, but our ECG says there are no signs of AFIB and you have no family history.
Now where's the diabetes & stress functionality that apple said it was going to have way back when?
For what you pay for the device it should have everything included so that you don't have to buy 3rd party apps.
Ironically, my cardiologist was able to diagnose my A.Fib by my Apple Watch readings. He looked at the instances of A.Fib recorded in the health app on my iPhone and considered that evidence enough to begin the process of discovering why I had A.Fib at such a young age. So apparently some cardiologists believe the Apple Watch is accurate enough when it comes to the ECG to consider its findings when it comes to diagnosing A.Fib.How many cardiologists actually take into account what the watch is reporting?
Dr = Yes your watch says AFIB, but our ECG says there are no signs of AFIB and you have no family history.
I'm guessing Apple marketed the Afib feature as a wellness device because they didn't want to wait years for FDA approval as a medical device. If studies could be done faster, I think these features could be launched as more of a medical / analytical device (e.g. ECG came with Apple Watch 4. It should have been possible that by the time Apple enabled the Afib history feature, there were enough data points from academic studies that the FDA gave approval on launch)The story might be a bit more complicated than that. Devices that are intended to be used as medical devices does need to meet certain data criteria for review and approval. I could be wrong but I would think that in the case of Apple, they weren't claiming the feature to be anything more than a wellness device in the beginning so it didn't need to meet a certain criteria.
Long story short is that it's not necessarily that FDA is the issue here. It also depends on what regulatory approval Apple is seeking.
Reality is many are self delusional on that subject. You trust 3 letter agencies everyday with your life and wellbeing some you don’t even know the letters.This is a negative for me since I have completely lost trust in 3 digit government agencies.
It must get exhausting to be upset over pleasant things.I’m not exactly sure this is a good thing. I’m sure this is great for Apple since they’re trying to push the Apple Watch as a health device, and they’re generally trying to go after the health market. But is that all it is?
Yes they do if i have afib warnings and confirm with a apple ecg i send it to my cardiologist. ask me to come in (i can walk to the hospital, 500meters) to confirm it with a full ecg and what todo most of the time a med change if longer than a few weeks or it bothers you too much (mostly get tired quicker) they zap you to get it back in ritme.Ironically, my cardiologist was able to diagnose my A.Fib by my Apple Watch readings. He looked at the instances of A.Fib recorded in the health app on my iPhone and considered that evidence enough to begin the process of discovering why I had A.Fib at such a young age. So apparently some cardiologists believe the Apple Watch is accurate enough when it comes to the ECG to consider its findings when it comes to diagnosing A.Fib.
Yours look so well organised compared to some of mine... hehe sorry. Indeed even if the ecg is limited (only 1 channel) it does give them some info but they will probably do a full ecg to see more things. For personal use over a 'event' i find the HRV view also telling given that for most the extra beats are random. Here is my HRV from last weeks event for me it mostly jumps from 50-100 to 200-250 as a result of all the extra beats and random action.Just to show some examples for people maybe not so familiar with it.
The first one is an actual Afib episode. The other one is from the next morning. It doesn't exactly require rocket science to detect a difference. Every doctor will see that there was at least "something" in the first recording.
My experience early on with my doctors is most dismissed the watch without seeing recordings. Now they ask if I have any.Just to show some examples for people maybe not so familiar with it.
The first one is an actual Afib episode. The other one is from the next morning. It doesn't exactly require rocket science to detect a difference. Every doctor will see that there was at least "something" in the first recording.
Quoting myself here, since I do think this warning should be more clear.It can actually prevent it in a way by measuring sound volume and warning if it's too loud.