Apple watch buyer BEWARE!!!

[Silver78]

For what it’s worth to the original poster, while it’s VERY slow to update changes and such, my Series 0 is working with 16.1.1 on my XS Max. Notifications are coming through immediately. If I do something in the Watch app on my phone, the watch updates accordingly (although it takes a decent amount of time for it to happen)

I did have to reset and repair the watch - have you tried that?

I did reset several times after talk with support. Problem comes back.
Finally i was given the official answer no support for apple watch up to series 3 in ios 16.
I watch dies natural i accept that.. i also accept no updates. But basic functions .. come on man!

You see old tech being sold today as vintage and high prices.. even apple devices such as ipods still running and can connect.
People still buy first macs and use them.

The price of an apple watch (we are talking a watch here) is worth 0 after a few years.. no vintage or retro future for apple watch.
No hand down to family members.
No one 30 years will make videos about old apple watches.

 

[stiligFox]

I also just tested it - a workout, calories, and a standup hour were synced properly to the phone.

Try resetting the watch and re-pairing it, that fixed it for me. It’ll take a good 20 minutes so be prepared, but I think you’ll find your watch working again.

Again, I also have a Series 0 and an iPhone XS running 16.1.1.

Good luck! Please let me know if it works again!

 

[stiligFox]

I did reset several times after talk with support. Problem comes back.
Finally i was given the official answer no support for apple watch up to series 3 in ios 16.
I watch dies natural i accept that.. i also accept no updates. But basic functions .. come on man!

You see old tech being sold today as vintage and high prices.. even apple devices such as ipods still running and can connect.
People still buy first macs and use them.

The price of an apple watch (we are talking a watch here) is worth 0 after a few years.. no vintage or retro future for apple watch.
No hand down to family members.
No one 30 years will make videos about old apple watches.

You did a complete wipe and reset? Where you had to scan the globe with your phone camera to pair it?


How long does it take before it stops working for you? Is it like hours or days?

I still use my Series 0 quite a bit so I’d be happy to test and report back for you!

 

[Shirasaki]

We are not talking about support here.. i sit in vietnam right now and most people around me still use iphone 6 and older just fine.
Its bacic functions not working.
Name any other device from apple that stopped working after “bricking” in only 4 years.

Apple made a bold statement after apple watch 24k gold version.. they have not done with any other device.
It was unwritten said that your watch is good for many years to come.
Tech should die a natural
Death …not be bricked after 4 years

Support includes iOS support for the said WatchOS. Remember, Apple Watch was originally designed as an ACCESSORY for iPhone. It's not just about watchOS support, but also iOS support. With that, the Apple Watch support is also somewhat tied to iPhone release date.

I don't want to repeat too much but tech dies "unnaturally" as you call it happens from time to time, just like COVID killing people in their 20s, in their 10s, in their 3rd year of life etc etc. It happens. You can accuse Apple deliberately killing support and I can too, but is that what actually happens? We don't know. We cannot verify that part. The only part we know is your Apple Watch is no longer connected to your iPhone after the update.

 

[ndouglas]

My fitbit ONE from 2012 works just fine.

That’s cool, I looked up that since I had never heard of it. Interesting…

I am not sure what you’re trying to get out of this thread, clearly you have very strong feelings and mindset about this situation, and no amount of solution-oriented feedback from commenters here is going to change your mind.

For example, in addition to the AW SE model idea… If you find Fitbit to be that long lasting, why not get one to replace your AW? They are quite inexpensive…

 

[bricktop_at]

It‘s just fantastic that, sometimes right out of the blue, threads like this pop up - very entertaining ;-)

But I can also confirm that the S0 is working nicely with iOS 16, so I don’t really see the problem? This thing came out in 2015 and still is supported with the latest iOS, that’s actually pretty cool.

I once had problems pairing an S2 to my phone because of a watchOS that was too old to even be updated through the pairing process. Contated Apple Support, explained my issue, they sent me a box to send in my S2, updated it for me and sent it back - and all that for free.

 

[Shirasaki]

You see old tech being sold today as vintage and high prices.. even apple devices such as ipods still running and can connect.
People still buy first macs and use them.

The price of an apple watch (we are talking a watch here) is worth 0 after a few years.. no vintage or retro future for apple watch.
No hand down to family members.
No one 30 years will make videos about old apple watches.

Those old techs were designed in an era when subscription didnt exist. hardware upgrade was common, self-repair was common, and among other things. It's a completely different time period. Despite all that, those vintage devices will die too, because, you guessed it, they are also electronics. They are just far less complex and generally last longer as a result, if you take good care of them.

When Apple Watch was launched in 2015, many people quickly points out the ridiculousness of Apple Watch Edition (series 0) stating electronics like that which will become obsolete, doesn't carry the same value as mechanical watch does. Battery dies, electronics inside dies. It is what it is. Plus, even Apple Watch series 0 processor is complex enough that it can break easily if not careful. Things won't last forever, even for the universe.

 

[Silver78]

Support includes iOS support for the said WatchOS. Remember, Apple Watch was originally designed as an ACCESSORY for iPhone. It's not just about watchOS support, but also iOS support. With that, the Apple Watch support is also somewhat tied to iPhone release date.

I don't want to repeat too much but tech dies "unnaturally" as you call it happens from time to time, just like COVID killing people in their 20s, in their 10s, in their 3rd year of life etc etc. It happens. You can accuse Apple deliberately killing support and I can too, but is that what actually happens? We don't know. We cannot verify that part. The only part we know is your Apple Watch is no longer connected to your iPhone after the update.

It was verified by support. The watch still connects but will not communicate with apple watch app.
Any watch below watch os9 is not supported by ios 16.
That includes apple watch 3 which apple sold until 2021?

 

[Cotypubby]

My fitbit ONE from 2012 works just fine.

It’s 2027?

Lol the outrage from someone who cannot tell the difference between 4 and 7, and who thinks 2012 was 15 years ago.

 

[Silver78]

I have a mint condition G4 Cube that is roughly the same age as me.

How dare Apple stop supporting it fully? Why can’t I use handoff with it? Why can’t it connect to my wifi despite having an airport card? Why is Apple intentionally bricking my G4 cube that was a few thousand dollars when new? If I gave it to my friends or family, they would be absolutely disgusted that the free, voluntary gift that I was being generous about is not up to modern standards.

After all, I’m the same age as the G4 cube and I seem to work just fine, heck I can even use handoff! What gives?

Tech evolves and is bound to stop working. I got the new Apple TV and gave my sister my older one — which was 8 months old. She had to update her iPhone from iOS 15 to iOS 16 (iPhone 11, not new and not old) in order for all the features to work. What gives? Why is Apple intentionally bricking the devices?

If you’re that concerned, buy a manual watch that will last you longer than your lifetime and generations after. Track your fitness in a journal. Send messages through the mail (although be careful, post offices sometimes brick their couriers, especially around the holidays, so the service might not work as it did when new!)

Edit: that same sister as above got my series 1 Apple Watch when I got a series 4, and as far as I know, it works just fine. Although she understands it’s bound to be slower than when new because it’s how tech works, especially with the Apple Watch being new tech with lots of changes in a short time

Please send me all your apple devices sold before september 2017.. you have accepted the loss of them already right?
I accept apple pencils with working battery. Working airpods. Macs and ipads. Iphones and apple tvs .. you name it.
I dunno what you did with your g4 but it should still be able to work if given ven right circumstances… that mac died a natural death if so. You can use that g4 if you accept the way it works now.. it was not bricked

 

[Shirasaki]

It was verified by support. The watch still connects but will not communicate with apple watch app.
Any watch below watch os9 is not supported by ios 16.
That includes apple watch 3 which apple sold until 2021?

Yeah, Apple Watch series 3. It's a cursed product sold by Apple long after its shelf live should've been ended.
As for other guys saying it still works, I bet they don't own a device new enough that lacks necessary support for "legacy" devices like that Apple Watch, or haven't reset the watch yet.
Regardless, I know it sucks, but again, it is what it is.

 

[stiligFox]

It was verified by support. The watch still connects but will not communicate with apple watch app.
Any watch below watch os9 is not supported by ios 16.
That includes apple watch 3 which apple sold until 2021?

Again, mine is communicating with the app just fine. After settling in for the last little while, it’s actually responding as quickly as it used to.

You may need to do a full wipe and restore of both your phone and your watch.

I just had a family member send me a message and it pinged on my S0 immediately. My fitness stats are still syncing, and I can still adjust settings in the Watch app.

 

[Silver78]

Yeah, Apple Watch series 3. It's a cursed product sold by Apple long after its shelf live should've been ended.
As for other guys saying it still works, I bet they don't own a device new enough that lacks necessary support for "legacy" devices like that Apple Watch, or haven't reset the watch yet.
Regardless, I know it sucks, but again, it is what it is.

It only is what it is if we accept that.
My watch worked better than ever before it got “bricked” the first 2 years was hell with it .. being first mover sucks.
When the watch finally became what i expected the new os was no longer supported.
I was a big a fanboy as anyone.. i went with backpack and a few dollars i my pocket to san francisco and got my backpack eaten by rats in Tenderloin and to cupertino to pick up this watch.
I got Apple employee original shirt framed in glass on the wall.. i got apple swag from basement to kitchen.
But this is simply peeing me straight in the mouth.
None in here have mentioned any other product by apple beicked after only 3-4 years. I am still waiting

 

[Silver78]

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I had this happen to my watch a few years ago but i paid for battery and screen myself.
I was told by apple that i should not wear my watch on holiday in asia since my watch was not build for asia!!!

 

[Cotypubby]

It only is what it is if we accept that.
My watch worked better than ever before it got “bricked” the first 2 years was hell with it .. being first mover sucks.
When the watch finally became what i expected the new os was no longer supported.
I was a big a fanboy as anyone.. i went with backpack and a few dollars i my pocket to san francisco and got my backpack eaten by rats in Tenderloin and to cupertino to pick up this watch.
I got Apple employee original shirt framed in glass on the wall.. i got apple swag from basement to kitchen.
But this is simply peeing me straight in the mouth.
None in here have mentioned any other product by apple beicked after only 3-4 years. I am still waiting

😂 Now 2015 was only 3 years ago.

This thread is hilarious.

 

[Silver78]

😂 Now 2015 was only 3 years ago.

This thread is hilarious.

If you read it also counts watches up to series 3 is no longer supported.
They stopped selling watch 3 last year?
It seems many in this thread blindly follow like sheep.. its a scary tendency.. it leads me to believe not many in here is born without an iphone or ipad in their hands.
As much as i like the younger generation some things are best left to grown ups

 

[Mcuserr]

Oldies can think like this, they buy an apple product ie iPad/iPhone and expect it to last till it dies, if it works it works, not interested in all the flash updates just want it to work like when they got it. Hi my Dad

 

[bradl]

I would expect blind fanboys to be in apples own forum.. but that its spread to macrumors is just sad

Or perhaps you are upset because you are finding out that most people aren't agreeing with you because you're on a rant about something that is marked obsolete from 6 years ago?

But let's go in for a sheep here, k?

MacOS High Sierra was released in September 2017. At that point, it became the last OS that would support my mid-2011 13" MBA. That MBA was released in July 2011, putting my Mac at that point at being 6 years, 3 months old. At that point, the 2011 MBAs were moved to Vintage status; The following year, my Mac was no longer supported, and as such, moved to obsolete status. Furthermore, my MBA was way too unstable with High Sierra, crashing at random shortly after booting. However, my MBA was absolutely rock solid on Sierra.

Did I sook it up and complain about why my Mac isn't supported anymore? Absolutely not. I had a rock solid machine that ran all of the applications I needed. In fact, it still runs solid on Sierra to this day, with all of the same applications I need. It has never needed any repair, and if I have my way, it will run until it can't run anymore. It has served me for 11 years, until I upgraded to my 16" M1 Pro MBP.

I'll go even further. I stayed on my iPhone 6s for 5 years, until the 11 Pro came out. That 6s just started to go, because of the battery losing charge. Other than that, if I could replace it, it would still be a solid phone. my iPhone 3G is still running strong, on a jailbroken iOS 3.1.x. My 4S is still running strong on 9.3.6. my iPad Mini 4 is still running iOS 10.3.3, and will stay at that forever, because I still have 32bit games that I play on it and would lose in going to anything iOS 11 or newer.

Did I complain about any of those losing support, or that my 32bit apps wouldn't work with anything newer? Absolutely not, because my purposes and use cases for where they are are more important than being supported, despite the fact that they are out of their production cycle.

You need to understand that unsupported != does not run or does not work for YOUR purposes. You should count yourself lucky; in the PC world, your computer is in need of an upgrade roughly every 2 years; to get 6 years out of a watch, let alone an iPhone, and 7 years out of a Mac from new to Obsolete says more about the robustness of the product you have. Otherwise, you'd be complaining about how expensive a new watch is every 2 years.

Perspective is everything here, and the perspective being shown here, especially from this not being a hardware issue whatsoever, is the wrong one.

BL.

 

[stiligFox]

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I had this happen to my watch a few years ago but i paid for battery and screen myself.
I was told by apple that i should not wear my watch on holiday in asia since my watch was not build for asia!!!

Class action for what? The fact is that a) the device is still working and b) very old tech wise. Apple never promised it would work down the road.

But you won’t reply to me any more since I’ve stated numerous times that mine is still working just fine. I’m trying to help but you just seem intent on saying Apple is evil for abandoning old tech.

That’s not Apple’s MO - Hell’s bells - I can still plug in my 2002 2nd Gen iPod classic with FireWire into my Ventura Mac and sync just fine! That’s a 20 year old device that still works.

 

[stiligFox]

At this point I think the original poster is trolling. While I’m sure Apple won’t *provide* support (I.e. help with any problems) for any watch not running watchOS 9, support within the OS is still very much there in iOS 16.1.1 and I think OP just wants to be angry about something. I’ve tried to offer advice and help and they won’t reply, so…

 

[Silver78]

Class action for what? The fact is that a) the device is still working and b) very old tech wise. Apple never promised it would work down the road.

But you won’t reply to me any more since I’ve stated numerous times that mine is still working just fine. I’m trying to help but you just seem intent on saying Apple is evil for abandoning old tech.

That’s not Apple’s MO - Hell’s bells - I can still plug in my 2002 2nd Gen iPod classic with FireWire into my Ventura Mac and sync just fine! That’s a 20 year old device that still works.

I replied to you .. you are lucky that your watch will connect .. you are welcome to write back as soon as it does not.
Apple support confirmed that its no longer supported and will drop pairing.
The world is not black and white my friend.. its all the grey tones in between.
That is my point about your ipod .. its just not the case with apple watch

I have written that lawfirm .. i got a letter back. They want more info .. so lets see what happens.
I am also expecting a call back from apple senior adviser so let see what they do about this.

 

[zachz]

Please send me all your apple devices sold before september 2017.. you have accepted the loss of them already right?
I accept apple pencils with working battery. Working airpods. Macs and ipads. Iphones and apple tvs .. you name it.
I dunno what you did with your g4 but it should still be able to work if given ven right circumstances… that mac died a natural death if so. You can use that g4 if you accept the way it works now.. it was not bricked

You’re simply angry over a nonissue — the only issue is that you don’t want to believe that tech ages and becomes old fast. The other issue is you don’t want to admit it. Another issue is that you don’t want to buy a newer one that will be supported for a few more years. And the last issue is that you want to blame Apple for the above instead of taking accountability and using reason.

I have probably over 30 Apple products, mainly Macs and accessories, ranging from mid-1980s to 2022.

Yes, they still work for the most part — but the older ones, including my 2012 iMac that I paid around $2500 for, have lost many features and abilities due to their age. I can use said iMac for basic tasks, but it doesn’t run the last few macOS updates, and therefore is missing many fundamental (to me) features that modern Macs have. Is that Apple’s fault? Nope, it’s no one’s fault. It’s the essence of how tech works.

A smart watch is not going to last forever. Yes, it may look perfect — so does my ancient Macintosh Classic! But, as technology evolves, the devices made prior to the recent evolutions will lose support, as is the case with your Series 0 Apple Watch.

My Macintosh Classic works like a charm, but it works as it did back when it came out. I cannot do much in terms of modern computing with it, I’m not going to be using it to write a term research paper — is that Apple’s fault? My new Mac can do that, so why would Apple cheat me and brick my perfectly mint Macintosh Classic since it works like new?

 

[zachz]

It only is what it is if we accept that.
My watch worked better than ever before it got “bricked” the first 2 years was hell with it .. being first mover sucks.
When the watch finally became what i expected the new os was no longer supported.
I was a big a fanboy as anyone.. i went with backpack and a few dollars i my pocket to san francisco and got my backpack eaten by rats in Tenderloin and to cupertino to pick up this watch.
I got Apple employee original shirt framed in glass on the wall.. i got apple swag from basement to kitchen.
But this is simply peeing me straight in the mouth.
None in here have mentioned any other product by apple beicked after only 3-4 years. I am still waiting

Are you going to blame Apple if the shirt becomes too small and doesn’t fit you anymore?

Is that “bricking” your shirt?

 

[Silver78]

Class action for what? The fact is that a) the device is still working and b) very old tech wise. Apple never promised it would work down the road.

But you won’t reply to me any more since I’ve stated numerous times that mine is still working just fine. I’m trying to help but you just seem intent on saying Apple is evil for abandoning old tech.

That’s not Apple’s MO - Hell’s bells - I can still plug in my 2002 2nd Gen iPod classic with FireWire into my Ventura Mac and sync just fine! That’s a 20 year old device that still works.

You’re simply angry over a nonissue — the only issue is that you don’t want to believe that tech ages and becomes old fast. The other issue is you don’t want to admit it. Another issue is that you don’t want to buy a newer one that will be supported for a few more years. And the last issue is that you want to blame Apple for the above instead of taking accountability and using reason.

I have probably over 30 Apple products, mainly Macs and accessories, ranging from mid-1980s to 2022.

Yes, they still work for the most part — but the older ones, including my 2012 iMac that I paid around $2500 for, have lost many features and abilities due to their age. I can use said iMac for basic tasks, but it doesn’t run the last few macOS updates, and therefore is missing many fundamental (to me) features that modern Macs have. Is that Apple’s fault? Nope, it’s no one’s fault. It’s the essence of how tech works.

A smart watch is not going to last forever. Yes, it may look perfect — so does my ancient Macintosh Classic! But, as technology evolves, the devices made prior to the recent evolutions will lose support, as is the case with your Series 0 Apple Watch.

My Macintosh Classic works like a charm, but it works as it did back when it came out. I cannot do much in terms of modern computing with it, I’m not going to be using it to write a term research paper — is that Apple’s fault? My new Mac can do that, so why would Apple cheat me and brick my perfectly mint Macintosh Classic since it works like new?

We are way past that.. i understand .. i am 45 and worked with tech all my life .. as written before tech crazy enough to travel from Denmark to cupertino to pick up that watch.
We are talking basic functions lost here.. connection! And all that comes with it.
On devices not older than 7-3 years and sold a year ago?
A device they boldly made in 24k gold to make a statement .. dont be scared to buy! Atleast that is what i read.. who would buy a gold watch thats bricked in a few years.
Its a watch.. that deserves to be able to function in 30 years and sell as retro etc more than any tech at least in my mind.
People are still using old ipods modernized also. Series 0-3 watch is dead!!?

 

[bradl]

You’re simply angry over a nonissue — the only issue is that you don’t want to believe that tech ages and becomes old fast. The other issue is you don’t want to admit it. Another issue is that you don’t want to buy a newer one that will be supported for a few more years. And the last issue is that you want to blame Apple for the above instead of taking accountability and using reason.

I have probably over 30 Apple products, mainly Macs and accessories, ranging from mid-1980s to 2022.

Yes, they still work for the most part — but the older ones, including my 2012 iMac that I paid around $2500 for, have lost many features and abilities due to their age. I can use said iMac for basic tasks, but it doesn’t run the last few macOS updates, and therefore is missing many fundamental (to me) features that modern Macs have. Is that Apple’s fault? Nope, it’s no one’s fault. It’s the essence of how tech works.

A smart watch is not going to last forever. Yes, it may look perfect — so does my ancient Macintosh Classic! But, as technology evolves, the devices made prior to the recent evolutions will lose support, as is the case with your Series 0 Apple Watch.

My Macintosh Classic works like a charm, but it works as it did back when it came out. I cannot do much in terms of modern computing with it, I’m not going to be using it to write a term research paper — is that Apple’s fault? My new Mac can do that, so why would Apple cheat me and brick my perfectly mint Macintosh Classic since it works like new?

I'll go further. My Apple IIe is still running strong. Should I sue Apple because I can't upgrade from DOS 3.1 or ProDOS 6.x? Despite the fact that I can still play a killer game of Oregon Trail, Lemonade Stand, Zaxxon, Pitfall II, and Karateka? Hell, I can still write a term paper on it, let alone code the hell out of Logo; make that turtle in Turtle Graphics run harder than the Coyote trying to catch the Roadrunner.

BL.