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nimski62

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This computer runs vista better than any computer I have owned.. and those other computers have a much faster processor. Everything works flawlessly, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MULTITOUCH!. if i even accidently put 3 fingers for 2 seconds on my touchpad, A.) either the mouse locks up and you have to use the keyboard to go find 'restart.' or B.) the computer just BLUESCREENOD's on me saying that the APPLEMTP.SYS is at fault. Are there any better multitouch drivers or even drivers i can use that are NOT multitouch?.. i would love to not BSOD or freeze every like 20 mins of use.
 

Beliyaal

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Feb 14, 2008
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I have also had one BSOD in Vista caused by the multi-touch drivers.

Also, I think I know the reason why Apple didn't ship any drivers for the external ethernet adapter. The Vista drivers for USB200M caused bsods and corrupted Windows update downloads when I tried it.
 

sparkstack

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Feb 19, 2008
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This computer runs vista better than any computer I have owned.. and those other computers have a much faster processor. Everything works flawlessly, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MULTITOUCH!. if i even accidently put 3 fingers for 2 seconds on my touchpad, A.) either the mouse locks up and you have to use the keyboard to go find 'restart.' or B.) the computer just BLUESCREENOD's on me saying that the APPLEMTP.SYS is at fault. Are there any better multitouch drivers or even drivers i can use that are NOT multitouch?.. i would love to not BSOD or freeze every like 20 mins of use.
Odd.

I'm running XP on my air and i used it non stop for 10 hours each day last weekend (work, unfortunately) without any issue whatsoever. The driver should be compatible with both XP and Vista you would have thought.
 

nimski62

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Feb 20, 2008
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Odd.

I'm running XP on my air and i used it non stop for 10 hours each day last weekend (work, unfortunately) without any issue whatsoever. The driver should be compatible with both XP and Vista you would have thought.

i need to borrow my friends XP cd and put it on.. this ***** getting annoying.
 

Clix Pix

macrumors Core
I'd think the problem lies with Vista rather than with the MBA. Remember, the MBA IS an Apple product, really designed for and meant to run Apple software.... From everything I've read, Vista is a nightmare and a lot of people have gone back to XP because of that. XP is probably more stable.

Personally I have not sullied any of my beautiful Macs with any version of Windows. Ugh!!
 

kevbernard

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Feb 7, 2008
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I know this is not particularly helpful, but for what it's worth I've been running Vista for 5 weeks now. I use the machine all day at work, and usually for 2-3 hours in the evening at home.
At work I have an external mouse, and at home I always use the touchpad.
So far, I've experienced no issues at all with touchpad drivers. In fact I'm quite impressed with the apple drivers, much better than the drivers on my previous laptop (Sony SZ).
 

ayeying

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Dec 5, 2007
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XP doesn't have any of these problems (not sure for the ethernet dongle though). However, multitouch doesn't exactly "work" in XP but I have yet to see it lock up, crash, bsod, etc.
 

bluedoggiant

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Jul 13, 2007
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Odd.

I'm running XP on my air and i used it non stop for 10 hours each day last weekend (work, unfortunately) without any issue whatsoever. The driver should be compatible with both XP and Vista you would have thought.

Why don't you have a separate PC? That seems extensive.
 

Beliyaal

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Feb 14, 2008
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FUD. Vista isn't that bad. Certainly its a much better experience on the Air than XP because of better power management. Vista works splendidly for long periods of time as long as it has decent drivers, wich Apple does not provide for Windows.

With the Air you cannot really run their Touch Pad driver without having they keyboard drivers installed. Looks like I will have to write Windows drivers for the Touch Pad after all.
 

kkrull

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Dec 19, 2006
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If you can consistently reproduce this issue, you should file a bug report with Apple.
I can't reprduce it. It seems completely random.

I'd think the problem lies with Vista rather than with the MBA.
Uh no. Apple wrote the driver applemtp.sys. It is Apple's problem. Tens of thousands of developers manage to write drivers that don't bluescreen windows, so Apple should be able to figure it out. Apple's drivers also bluescreen XP (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1450160&tstart=45). This is widespread enough that the press writes about it (http://searchmobilecomputing.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid40_gci1309407,00.html) so I am kind of surprised that Apple let it go this long.
 

Clix Pix

macrumors Core
Apple is producing machines to predominantly run on the Mac platform (OS X)..... Windows is an afterthought.....

The day I went out to buy a Mac (several years ago) was so that I could get AWAY from Windows and all of its inherent messy problems. Personally, I'm sorry that Apple has since structured things so that people would be able to run Windows on a Mac. <Shudder>

Don't kid yourself: Apple's primary interest is still in getting people to buy and use their machines running OS X, not Windows.
 

sparkstack

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Feb 19, 2008
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Don't kid yourself: Apple's primary interest is still in getting people to buy and use their machines running OS X, not Windows.
Wrong. Apple's primary interest is getting people to buy the hardware. OS X is a loss leader, it's what entices people away from windows. They give it away with every machine and even retail copies are a: cheap to buy; b: easy to install on multiple computers (if so inclined) as there is no license key. The same can be said for the iLife software.

Boot camp is another enticement, for people sitting on the fence, worried about xyz app that only runs in windows. While sure, it would be nice if everyone ran OS X, Apple are well aware that a lot of people buy their machines to run other OS's on them.

Apple has a long standing "it just works" campaign. This should apply equally to the OS X side as it should to the Windows side. They try to control the windows side as best they can by providing the hardware drivers, so if there is indeed a problem with a windows driver supplied by Apple, they should fix it.
 

nintendude

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Jan 17, 2008
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why install a microsoft program at all? MBA's come with OSX isnt that good enough?

well, some people prefer to use XP/Vista for gaming purposes

though i'm not sure that this has to do w/ the OP's problem, every once in a while in XP using the MBA, the computer freezes, the screen turns blue w/ a bunch of words, and the computer restarts before I can read what the screen says. this ONLY happens when i'm playing Sims 2
 

kkrull

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Dec 19, 2006
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every once in a while in XP using the MBA, the computer freezes, the screen turns blue w/ a bunch of words, and the computer restarts before I can read what the screen says.
Let me tell you what it says right in the middle of that blue screen...

applemtp.sys
 

nintendude

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Jan 17, 2008
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Let me tell you what it says right in the middle of that blue screen...

applemtp.sys

you sure? cause it never happens through normal activities and could be related to the graphics or somethingsince it only happens when ima gaming
 

kkrull

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Dec 19, 2006
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nintendude

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greengio

macrumors newbie
Dec 5, 2008
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Same problem on alum macbook and vista... I think Touchpad works very bad with vista, I hope Apple will fix this issue
 

ruizmontana

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Jan 3, 2009
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Possible fix (work around) for applemtp.sys bsod in vista

On another website I found a possible solution:

Macbook Multi-touch Trackpad Driver update causes Blue Screen of Death

As happy as I was the other day that Apple has released an update for their windows trackpad driver, I've been getting plagued by BSODs caused by "applemtp.sys". I think I've narrowed the cause down to multi-touch operations (using 2 fingers at once), however here is a work-around...well, working for me so far..


Workaround:

As I've read on some of the support forums after the update there are now 2 mouse interface devices installed, after Disabling the "Apple Multitouch Mouse" I've not come across another BSOD.

Although I'm not sure yet, perhaps the other interface device is one left over from the previous mouse driver, or its an erroneous ugly twin from the new mouse driver. In either case Apple will need to fix their installer to remove it, or fix driver itself. Hopefully some more light is shed on this soon.
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This worked fine for me

Good luck!
 

tubbymac

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Nov 6, 2008
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As I've read on some of the support forums after the update there are now 2 mouse interface devices installed, after Disabling the "Apple Multitouch Mouse" I've not come across another BSOD.

I don't have the BSOD problems on Vista but I'm running a Macbook 2.0 Aluminum. I tried disabling that "Apple Multitouch Mouse" and just keeping the "Apple Multitouch" driver running instead. I didn't notice any difference except that opening the boot camp control panel failed once and then worked when I tried to open it again. So it looks like that driver is used for at least something.
 
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