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The iPhone is going to be greater than the iPod in popularity, I am predicting


I'm fairly confident the iPhone will never sell 100 million units.

The intelligence of the comments around here have been lacking as of late. Hopefully it will return after the iPhone release.
 
Web App Drawback

The main drawback to web apps to me is that iPhone Safari apparently doesn't save passwords in a keychain.

So in order to have a web app that saves my own data I have to login with a name and password each time I bring it up? That's a royal pain.

If this is a .mac rss reader, I wonder if it will save your personal feeds in a cookie? That could work I guess without having to login each time....
 
Perhaps they're establishing the idea that the iPhone is like a miniature Mac (i.e. it's a computer, not just a mobile phone).

Except they have been very, very careful to say that the phone runs "OS X" while in almost every single other instance, they refer to the Mac operating system as "Mac OS X." That would indicate that they're trying to distinguish the iPhone (and :apple: TV) from Macs.
 
So in order to have a web app that saves my own data I have to login with a name and password each time I bring it up? That's a royal pain.

It does sound like a royal pain... right up until someone steals your very stealable, very desirable phone... ;)
 
Except they have been very, very careful to say that the phone runs "OS X" while in almost every single other instance, they refer to the Mac operating system as "Mac OS X." That would indicate that they're trying to distinguish the iPhone (and :apple: TV) from Macs.

Yeah, certainly a good point - maybe they're sort of splitting out "Mac" and "OS X", perhaps - so "Mac OS X" still refers (in people's minds) the main OS X that runs on Macs, while "OS X" is the OS that runs other devices (iPhone, AppleTV, maybe upcoming 6G iPod, etc.).
 
I'm fairly confident the iPhone will never sell 100 million units.

The intelligence of the comments around here have been lacking as of late. Hopefully it will return after the iPhone release.

Mmmmm..... what about the (likely) various models of iPhone including the other devices the iPhone is likely to spawn.

For starters, the iPhone could be enhanced to:

1) include a hard disk or large enough Flash to really support gp computing,

2) use 100% of the front surface for Display/Keyboard rather than the current 75%

3) Include a camera on the front face (possible an interpixel camera)

4) more robust CPU

Prolly many of the iPhone features will be implemented in the next-gen iPods... say an iPod with MutlTouch and HDD, but no phone or WiFi

Or, another, less expensive, MultiTouch Flash device with IR instead of phone/WiFi to be used as a Universal remote (several High-End URs already cost more than the 8 Gig iPhone)

Or, a somewhat larger package (Display Storage Capacity, etc.) that could be a PalmTop computer with optional iPhone, etc.

Or, a totally customizable keyboard/display (and underlying computer) whose UI could be tailored by software to a specific application or user segment: insurance adjusters; Equalizers for Bands or AV DJ; handicapped (can I say that?) interaction; artists; cameras; GPS devices; performers; doctors; specialized Kiosks; teachers; coaches; gamers...

There are just so very many ways Apple can go with this!

This is Rev 1.0 of a keyboard-less and mouse-less, rather, Ephemeral Universal Keyboard and multibutton/wheel/pad mouse device... think of the possibilities.

This is a new category of UI & I suspect we are going to see it everywhere!

Mmmm... I wonder if the MT display can be transparent like an LCD display
 
Hrmmm... something has changed...

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Most syncing with the iPhone will be done with .Mac
Just like on a Mac in system preferences>.Mac

Address Book,Bookmarks,Email etc..

Seems logical.

I'd like to see Apple change .mac to a free service with some premium add-ons. Every time I think about signing up for .mac, I decide it just isn't worth the cost.
 
The main drawback to web apps to me is that iPhone Safari apparently doesn't save passwords in a keychain.

So in order to have a web app that saves my own data I have to login with a name and password each time I bring it up? That's a royal pain.

If this is a .mac rss reader, I wonder if it will save your personal feeds in a cookie? That could work I guess without having to login each time....

In my "iPhone Apps Manager", it stores your list of favorites in a cookie so that you don't have to login and the information doesn't have to be stored on a database server.

Sure you can save a username and password into a cookie also so that you don't have to login everytime. That is how most web apps and services online work. That is how macrumors forum works. It stores your username and password in a cookie when you check the little, "remember me" box.

But by storing a list of rss feeds and favorites in cookies, then you have to be careful about clearing out your cookies.
 
I'm fairly confident the iPhone will never sell 100 million units.

The intelligence of the comments around here have been lacking as of late. Hopefully it will return after the iPhone release.

100 million is a big number -- AT&T has 60 million subscribers, and its the biggest U.S. carrier -- but I wouldn't say never. Apple projects sales of 10 million iPhones the first year, and even modest growth would put them at 100 million units in eight years.

Based on that, how are you "fairly confident the iPhone will never sell 100 million units"? My guess: You were just talking out of your a@@, Ace Ventura.
 
Curious

Inquiring minds want to know what scripting technology Apple is using for this? Ruby? Python? Anyone?
 
serverside I have no idea, but I know they use scriptalicious and prototype on the client side
 
Ajax Terminal

javascripts, my guess

Obviously for the client, but I was thinking more about the back end. I'm also wondering if there is, or if someone will create an Ajax terminal emulator so the iPhone could be used to log into a server via ssh?
 
Obviously for the client, but I was thinking more about the back end. I'm also wondering if there is, or if someone will create an Ajax terminal emulator so the iPhone could be used to log into a server via ssh?

is that really necessary?
 
Obviously for the client, but I was thinking more about the back end. I'm also wondering if there is, or if someone will create an Ajax terminal emulator so the iPhone could be used to log into a server via ssh?

Server side is most likely WebObjects. And yes I think a ssh webservice would be popular in certain circles.
 
That has got to be the worst implementation of RSS feeds I've ever seen, I prefer to read the story in my reader.

If I want to read the story then I would prefer to read it on its own website. I use RSS to know what stories are around. E.g. I flick through BBC news headlines and see if any headlines capture my fancy - but then I want to read it on bbc.co.uk.

The point for me is that RSS lets me flick through the headlines of a number of different websites without having to load a new page for each one. Whether or not that's how you use it - why can't safari be capable of doing things this way if the user wants it to? Firefox (with extensions) can do it both my way and your way...
 
I'm fairly confident the iPhone will never sell 100 million units.

The intelligence of the comments around here have been lacking as of late. Hopefully it will return after the iPhone release.

Apple says they're hoping to sell 10million units of the iPhone, and you're ready to stick your neck out and say they won't sell 100 million?
 
A bit off topic but somewhat related.

Interestingly, it would appear Apple is making general iPhone-related modifications to their website at large. For instance, on their new navbar, they've added large tap hitzones when using the iPhone user-agent. Kinda buggy, too. The right most zone is chopped off. :p
 

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Firefox doesn't even have a proper RSS reader.

Some people like some (or even all) of the description for a story.

The whole point of RSS is having all the info you need in one place. In FF to find out anything you actually have to click on all of those links.

Uhm... you totally missed to point of LiveBookmarks! That is so much more handy than an RSS-reader!
 
If you sync all your bookmarks from your mac and click on an RSS feed link, Safari on the iphone uses this reader "app" to translate the RSS feed. So it can't tell you that there are unread items, but you can view the feed just like on the desktop. Pretty nice.
 
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