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Webcat86

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Your using it as a screen. Use a phone, they are weatherproof. And their cases protect them, plus their touch screens can function.

There' also the charging issue. Put it in a waterproof case and you cannot charge it. Plus the battery life on an iPad is the same as the early ones - unlike all other Apple portable products, the iPad's battery endurance has not improved.

For ocean work the cheap way out is a used NEC rugged notebook. They're dogs but do the job and can be dropped, waterproofed, etc. If your life depends on it, you cannot depend on an iPad. Apples phones and watches to a much greater extend one can.

You're not being serious.
Looks like it's you not being serious. You're literally talking to someone doing what you said can't be done, and you're just desperate to keep digging your hole.
 

sjebleu

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Your using it as a screen. Use a phone, they are weatherproof. And their cases protect them, plus their touch screens can function.

There' also the charging issue. Put it in a waterproof case and you cannot charge it. Plus the battery life on an iPad is the same as the early ones - unlike all other Apple portable products, the iPad's battery endurance has not improved.

For ocean work the cheap way out is a used NEC rugged notebook. They're dogs but do the job and can be dropped, waterproofed, etc. If your life depends on it, you cannot depend on an iPad. Apples phones and watches to a much greater extend one can.

You're not being serious.
I think you're trying really hard now to find any plausible nitpicks. And still, those points doesn't make much sense either.

There's obviously cases where another machine is more preferrable than an iPad. But your blatantly bold statement that the ipad does suit for field work because of your mentioned reasons, doesn't adds up.

I'll give a real example where the iPad is awesome for professional field work, and other devices (fundamentally different ones) does not really suit well:

- My wife is a construction engineer who walks around contruction sites to oversee projects and takes pictures and notes. She had a rugged PC before and it was terrible. It weigthed a ton, and has to dedicate one arm to carry it. When opening it, everything was typical Windows/x86 slow. For pictures, she has to pull up her phone. Try doing that multiple times with one small female hand.
And in winter, good luck using the rugged laptop and phone with thick winter gloves.

With an iPad, she has it dangling around her neck and an Apple pencil secured with a cord to the iPad. She now can do everything mentioned and more with ease and on that single device, and in any weather.

Only complaint is that the touchscreen sometime reacts to rain drops.
 

Melbourne Park

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My son uses a mini for 3D scanning (connected to a 100K Leica scanner) and also to steer a drone scanning and heat differentials in buildings. But he has two of them, due to their lack of protection. He cannot cover the screen because the touch control is necessary.

He hates them. But the software he uses is restricted to iPad.

He has switched the rest of his business to Google OS phones and watches, and now runs Windows software or uses off site number crunching (done in India or the USA, but India is much much cheaper).

He absolutely hates Apple and he calls me a devoted Apple fanatic. His base work PC computer was cheap, and has a 4090 GPU, he reckons Workstations are a bad rip off that only big companies buy, and they buy lots of them at huge discounts, and there is no value in workstations he claims. He does raise his eyebrows about my 5,1 Mac Pro that he knows is still operating. Although its past even Opencore's survival date, as all Intels will be soon. No Mac Pro for me now as Apple has dropped that upgrade concept. Their business model is based on iPhones.

His wife (my daughter in law) had a coffee spill on her macbook too. It cost a lot to marginally repair. She had it repaired by a 3rd party. Apple said buy a new one as their repair price was close to its replacement cost. Another case of Apple's business intent. She is a scientist, and has now switched to PC notebooks. I give her my old Apple watches, so she still has an iPhone to operate her watch. But due to Apple planned obsolescence strategy, I am myself considering switching to Windows. But the Apple system is difficult to escape from.

iPads are not even dust proof. iPhones used to also be open to dust and moisture as well, but now they have some proofing. But not the iPad, at all.

Why?

Apple doesn't want to make anything proofed except for phones and watches, because Apple wants to blame the customer for them failing, and Apple awaits such failures as part of their business plan. If Google had not come along, and Apple was the only smart phone provider with internet access etc. (compared to the competition at the time Apple introduced the iPhone) then even now, Apple's phones would not be protected. My evidence is the iPad. It should be protected.

Every contemporary iPhone user should be thanking Google OS and Samsung etc for making proofed smart phones that forced Apple to proof iPhones as well.

Apple makes money from not protecting its iPads and computers. Business notebooks have not only better typing action keyboards, but they are spill proof keyboards (and can take a cup of tea or coffee or water) spilled on them and hence are far more customer focused. Apple could easily make a better keyboard for their notebooks, and have them spill proof. And also have proofed iPads. They choose not to, despite the very high cost of an iPad Pro.

I have an ocean racing yacht, and I can see my display information via the boats network, which also includes WiFi. The ocean is wet and so are waves, wind and rain carry salt water spray all over the race boat. Green water can also hit anywhere on the boat's exterior. Moisture is everywhere on a sail boat. I can use my iPhone Pro Max, no problems, but not an iPad. If the iPad was IP68, it would be useable, I'd have bought a few M4 matt Pros, as their displays doesn't reflect, although their battery life is hopeless for a boat that sails for days on end. I expected the new M4 Pro to be proofed, because Samsungs are. But no, I was annoyed that Apple follows its "planned to fail" philosophy. Such iPads M4 anti reflection units could have been terrific. Cheaper than a $4,500 B&G display too.

Instead I have bought Google Samsung pad versions, which are IP 68, and they also run the B&G software. Tell your wife about them, they are far more suitable for field work.

You can put your heads in the sand, but don't put your iPad near moisture or dust, because they are deliberately designed not to take it.
 
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I WAS the one

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I'm not sure experience comes into it
Maximizing productivity in daily life is essential. It's important to recognize that not every production company requires brand-new equipment annually. The reality of the corporate and business landscape is different. If you're skeptical, take a trip to your local bank and observe the computers they're utilizing.
 

Webcat86

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Maximizing productivity in daily life is essential. It's important to recognize that not every production company requires brand-new equipment annually. The reality of the corporate and business landscape is different. If you're skeptical, take a trip to your local bank and observe the computers they're utilizing.

I see you've taken to having a conversation with yourself now. As a reminder, this is what I said:

I'm not saying these devices need replacing all the time, rather that I'm not sold by the idea of getting a previous-gen product if the goal is to keep it until it no longer functions. All you're doing is bringing forward the date at which you'll need to replace it.
 

DSTOFEL

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Hey everyone,

I've been pondering over something lately, and I couldn't help but notice how Apple seems to have lost sight of the original purpose behind the iPad. Remember when it was positioned as the perfect middle ground between a computer and a laptop? A companion device, ideal for light work, school tasks, or on-the-go productivity?

But now, take a look at the current iPad lineup. The prices have skyrocketed, putting them in the range of high-end laptops, yet they can't even run a basic macOS. It's perplexing. Why invest in an iPad when you can get a more versatile and capable laptop for less?

Think about it: for illustrators, photographers, writers, and professionals alike, the iPad falls short in comparison to laptops. It lacks the flexibility and power needed for intensive tasks. Sure, it's great for consuming content or casual browsing, but when it comes to serious work, it just doesn't cut it anymore.

I miss the days when the iPad was a budget-friendly option for those who didn't need all the bells and whistles of a full-fledged computer but still wanted something more substantial than a smartphone. It's disheartening to see Apple prioritize profit margins over the original vision of the iPad.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you believe Apple should refocus on the iPad's roots and offer more affordable options that cater to productivity needs? Let's discuss.
For me, the iPad, in any flavor, is 90% a consumption device (media, web, etc…) and 10% (and being generous here) a creative device. Now, I have the M111 inch iPad Pro & Magic Keyboard and it’s by far my most used Apple product. However, given my use case, even the regular iPad 9 would work just fine.

If Mac’s had the ability to run all “Apps” that the iPads can run and have the same user experience when doing so…I’d use my MBP for just about everything. I’d have little need for anything other than the most basic iPad for use in bed, etc…

I agree that Apple has gone crazy with pricing. Honestly, I now stay at least a generation behind with all of my Apple products (eg., Mac’s, iPads, Watches). I wait a year after release and look for a big sale!
 
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