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kabunaru

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did you hate apple when they used ppc, they shared the same screens, hd's, ram, optical drives, and various other compoents? yet only the processor defines the mac huh?


No, I did not and do not care any more now. I like all Macs, I learned my lesson now. ;)
 

204467

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wow you clearly have no understanding of processors and their designs yet you are quick to say the move to intel was the worst apple has ever done

why do you hate intel so much? seriously? they offer so much more than ibm was. were you not around when ppc updates were far and few between?

it is ALL about the os, not the hardware. as long as the hardware is quaity, i could care less if "pc's" use the same thing

did you hate apple when they used ppc, they shared the same screens, hd's, ram, optical drives, and various other compoents? yet only the processor defines the mac huh?


you need to have factual evidence and know what you are talking about rather than spout fanboy comments:rolleyes: I personally feel the switch to intel was the among the BEST things apple has ever done along with os x and the resurgance of apple with the imac

seriously some people...

i think the worst thing apple has ever done was make itself into a religion to some people (or would that be under things that annoy me the most lol)

Yes! I can't stand the fanboys, or how once some people switch to Mac, they're always like "just switched, never going back to the dark side, windoz sux, vista is the worst thing ever, lolz, :apple::apple::apple::apple::apple: FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course i have vista on my gaming box though, i couldn't live without my games..."

Grrr, fanboys...yes, one of Apple's worst mistakes was definitely getting to the point where people will defend them to the death without even thinking. Am I the only one that just wants to punch somebody when they hear a fanboy babble about Apple?
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204467

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Am I the only one who wants to punch the next person who trots out the "fanboy" insult every time they don't agree with someone's opinion?

When did I ever say that a fanboy was someone with whom I didn't agree? A fanboy is soemone who relentlessly defends a company/product even when statements to the contrary are directly in their face. I hate PC fanboys just as much as Apple fanboys, and just as much as I hate any fanboy (regardless of the company they support).
 

iAlan

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Failures...

Pippin - maybe, but I think it was just not the right time and was a product Apple had to be willing to loose money on for a couple of years

Newton - yes, pulling the Newton was a bad decision - although the device was ahead of it's time it had the potential to grow a new market, much like the original iPod did and the iPhone is now doing to a degree as well

Cube - financially, yes - but the engineering behind the product is what has given us the iMac as we now see it, the mini, the MacBook Air

Productivity Suite / OpenDoc- Apple was way off in this regard, but understandable if not wanting to piss Microsoft off
 

DigiCatRedux

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I don't know... the Newton never really went anywhere, even right out of the door- I think it was a good decision from Apple to pull the device.
Found an article here detailing the opinions of one of the original Newton Development Group members, Larry Tesler - and why he thinks it failed.
http://www.g4tv.com/techtvvault/features/25271/Why_the_Apple_Newton_Failed.html

Along with the Newton, we can't forget the failed eMate 300 - the Newton-based laptop, and probably one of the ugliest things to come out of Cupertino. Ever.
 

IJ Reilly

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Jul 16, 2002
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When did I ever say that a fanboy was someone with whom I didn't agree? A fanboy is soemone who relentlessly defends a company/product even when statements to the contrary are directly in their face. I hate PC fanboys just as much as Apple fanboys, and just as much as I hate any fanboy (regardless of the company they support).

But of course you get to decide who "relentlessly defends a company/product even when statements to the contrary are directly in their face," and therefore is deserving of an insult. That's the problem with relying on insults instead of arguments. Stick to the arguments, and insults won't be necessary.
 

stanfordtechman

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Aug 21, 2008
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return policy should be revised. 14 days is really absurd, even for unopened products cannot be returned after 2 weeks... everythings on everywhere could be returned w/in 30 days !! so mac should extend it to 30 days ~
yup baby~
 

pawn3d

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Apr 5, 2008
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Am I the only one who wants to punch the next person who trots out the "fanboy" insult every time they don't agree with someone's opinion?
Probably.

Hands down, my Apple greatest mistake was...
THE MACBOOK

Why is it turning brown? Why does my CD drive not work? I think Click nailed it on the head in one of his epic posts. :p
 

macfan881

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Feb 22, 2006
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apples bigest mistake was Mac OSX in term comparing 10.1 with all the Features they added into 10.1 it should have been in the first relase and should have been free.
 

204467

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apples bigest mistake was Mac OSX in term comparing 10.1 with all the Features they added into 10.1 it should have been in the first relase and should have been free.

I'm sorry, but could you please explain? I thought 10.1 was a free upgrade to all that had 10.0. Sorry if I'm not all that knowledgeable about that time in Apple's history, I wasn't even 10 and my computer was running System 7.6 at that time.
 

macfan881

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I'm sorry, but could you please explain? I thought 10.1 was a free upgrade to all that had 10.0. Sorry if I'm not all that knowledgeable about that time in Apple's history, I wasn't even 10 and my computer was running System 7.6 at that time.
actaully my bad it was free to os X users but the featuers were the following

* Performance enhancements — Mac OS X v10.1 introduced large performance increases throughout the system.
* Easier CD and DVD burning — better support in Finder as well as iTunes
* DVD playback support — DVDs can be played in Apple DVD Player
* More printer support (200 printers supported out of the box) — One of the main complaints of version 10.0 users was the lack of printer drivers, and Apple attempted to remedy the situation by including more drivers, although many critics complained that there were still not enough.
* Faster 3D (OpenGL performs 20% faster) — The OpenGL drivers, and handling were vastly improved in this version of Mac OS X, which created a large performance gap for 3D elements in the interface, and 3D applications.
* Improved AppleScript — The scripting interface now allows scripting to be done to many more system components, such as the Printer Center, and Terminal, thus improving the customizability of the interface. As well, Apple introduced AppleScript Studio, which allows a user to create full AppleScript applications in a simple graphical interface.
* ColorSync 4.0, the color management system and API.
* Image Capture, for acquiring images from digital cameras and scanners.
 

204467

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Jul 13, 2008
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actaully my bad it was free to os X users but the featuers were the following

* Performance enhancements — Mac OS X v10.1 introduced large performance increases throughout the system.
* Easier CD and DVD burning — better support in Finder as well as iTunes
* DVD playback support — DVDs can be played in Apple DVD Player
* More printer support (200 printers supported out of the box) — One of the main complaints of version 10.0 users was the lack of printer drivers, and Apple attempted to remedy the situation by including more drivers, although many critics complained that there were still not enough.
* Faster 3D (OpenGL performs 20% faster) — The OpenGL drivers, and handling were vastly improved in this version of Mac OS X, which created a large performance gap for 3D elements in the interface, and 3D applications.
* Improved AppleScript — The scripting interface now allows scripting to be done to many more system components, such as the Printer Center, and Terminal, thus improving the customizability of the interface. As well, Apple introduced AppleScript Studio, which allows a user to create full AppleScript applications in a simple graphical interface.
* ColorSync 4.0, the color management system and API.
* Image Capture, for acquiring images from digital cameras and scanners.

So you're saying that 10.1 was good except for the fact that it cost money for non-Mac users? I don't really get it; if an OS was free, how would the company make money?
 

chaosbunny

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Not making any great redesigns lately. In the last 5 years or something only the MacBook Air, the alu iMac (not too drastic, just the white iMac in silver basically) and the iBook -> MacBook (also not too much) appeared as mayor design changes. Mini looks the same like at first, Mac Pro looks the same like the PM G5 from 2003, MacBook Pro looks the same like the alu PowerBook G4 from 2003.

Sure I like the current designs, but I loved how every PowerMac G4 revision looked a little bit different, how the PowerBook went from the curved black G3 to the slim titanium G4 to the alu books relatively fast, how there was a cube, the G4 lamp iMac, the eMac, etc. etc.

Now with focus on the iPhone, the designs of the computers are somehow left behind.

And yes it doesn't matter how a computer looks if it works and yes I said the current designs are great blabla. I just think revisions were more "exciting" - I can't think of a better term atm - from 1999 – 2004 from a design point.
 

mrfrosty

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Oct 1, 2005
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wow you clearly have no understanding of processors and their designs yet you are quick to say the move to intel was the worst apple has ever done

why do you hate intel so much? seriously? they offer so much more than ibm was. were you not around when ppc updates were far and few between?

it is ALL about the os, not the hardware. as long as the hardware is quaity, i could care less if "pc's" use the same thing

did you hate apple when they used ppc, they shared the same screens, hd's, ram, optical drives, and various other compoents? yet only the processor defines the mac huh?

you need to have factual evidence and know what you are talking about rather than spout fanboy comments:rolleyes: I personally feel the switch to intel was the among the BEST things apple has ever done along with os x and the resurgance of apple with the imac

seriously some people...

i think the worst thing apple has ever done was make itself into a religion to some people (or would that be under things that annoy me the most lol)

Think outside of the box fella, moving to Intel COULD BE Apple's biggest mistake of all time...............They have opened themselves up to having clone machines again, we all know what happened last time...........OSX86 is very stable Apple can't use the old arguments about limited hardware options giving OS stability....they have shot themselves in the foot too many times with that one.
 

IJ Reilly

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Think outside of the box fella, moving to Intel COULD BE Apple's biggest mistake of all time...............They have opened themselves up to having clone machines again, we all know what happened last time...........OSX86 is very stable Apple can't use the old arguments about limited hardware options giving OS stability....they have shot themselves in the foot too many times with that one.

Not really. Apple doesn't have to allow Mac clones unless they want to.
 

MacSociology

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Aug 13, 2006
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Battleground Europe?!
Yes! I can't stand the fanboys, or how once some people switch to Mac, they're always like "just switched, never going back to the dark side, windoz sux, vista is the worst thing ever, lolz, :apple::apple::apple::apple::apple: FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course i have vista on my gaming box though, i couldn't live without my games..."

Grrr, fanboys...yes, one of Apple's worst mistakes was definitely getting to the point where people will defend them to the death without even thinking. Am I the only one that just wants to punch somebody when they hear a fanboy babble about Apple?
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I agree completely with this. But I would also have to say that this subculture helped me with my masters thesis about the Mac-culture.


And to just be myself I have to make the following suggestion:

Letting Steve back in? ;)
 

204467

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Jul 13, 2008
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I agree completely with this. But I would also have to say that this subculture helped me with my masters thesis about the Mac-culture.


And to just be myself I have to make the following suggestion:

Letting Steve back in? ;)

What was the point of your paper? That sounds really interesting. And if you don't mind me asking, do you really think Jobs coming back was that bad or are you just saying that to be different? I don't care either way and would actually be interested in some people's reasons as to why Jobs coming back was the worst thing ever (if anyone actually thinks that).
 

iWaldo

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IMO, removing some neat features for iMovie '08. Luckily, they made up for this by making it so that it won't import iMovie 6 projects. :(
 
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