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not smart to buy a 4 year old computer. It will artificially stop getting updates soon
Do you have official statements from Apple to support that claim?

Apple was selling the M1 Macbook Air on their website just a few months ago. (discontinued March 4, 2024) The countdown timer to unsupport doesn't start counting down when Apple first starts selling a product but when they stop. Apple has a tradition of supporting their devices "x" number of years after it has been discontinued.
 
Do you have official statements from Apple to support that claim?

Apple was selling the M1 Macbook Air on their website just a few months ago. (discontinued March 4, 2024) The countdown timer to unsupport doesn't start counting down when Apple first starts selling a product but when they stop. Apple has a tradition of supporting their devices "x" number of years after it has been discontinued.

Yeah, they're stuffing AI features into all the next OS releases, and at some point the NPU's in M1 or M2 chips wont be good enough to handle all the bloat, so they'll cut it off.

Feel free to revisit this post in 2 years when it happens
 
Awesome

Amazon finally matched Walmart’s price:


It’s actually now cheaper if you buy it through Amazon (using the Amazon credit card) which gives you 5% in rewards
That's smart. My macBook is 12 years old and still kicking but I want something newer. I may take the plunge with my Prime visa
 
My guess is M1 will be supported for a long time but without the AI enhancements in the upcoming OS versions.
That's a safe bet. It would be highly uncharacteristic of Apple to drop support for the M1 Macbook Air in 2 years.

$699 is a great price for a new Mac OS computer. (I picked one up back in March for $650 at Costco and I've been able to do everything on it that I use my M2 Mac Mini for) That little laptop is a beast (in a good way).

I'm not interested in changing the mind of anyone who thinks it is a poor purchase, just to encourage those who ARE interested in it that it is indeed good.
 
It will be interesting to see how Apple manages this. M1 has a potentially LONG shelf-life unless they radically up the requirements of some future version of MacOS. I mean, M1 still feels fast and fresh today.

That said, at this end of the price range, I think that we can only reasonably expect 2-3 years of updates and that anything beyond that will be a bonus. It's not like we pay Apple for MacOS like we had to back in the day (although I would do that if it meant keeping older hardware for longer). And let's remember that it won't suddenly stop working when it ages out of new MacOS updates. I have family members on 12-year old Macs that still use them and won't upgrade "because it works fine!!".
The core problem is security updates. If I bought a "new" Mac today, and its not getting security updates in 24 months, that will be a concern.

It would be nice if they just said when the updates were going away, as my wife has a seldom used older Mac that I have concerns about...but I'm not replacing with another machine that's only $50 cheaper now than it was 18 months ago.
 
Do you have official statements from Apple to support that claim?

Apple was selling the M1 Macbook Air on their website just a few months ago. (discontinued March 4, 2024) The countdown timer to unsupport doesn't start counting down when Apple first starts selling a product but when they stop. Apple has a tradition of supporting their devices "x" number of years after it has been discontinued.

No, the software support clock starts the moment Apple launches a product. This has been documented with many products. Check Ars Technica for a review of macOS support life.

iMac 21.5-inch was discontinued in 2021. It only supported one major macOS update, then was dropped in Sonoma.

 
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My guess is M1 will be supported for a long time but without the AI enhancements in the upcoming OS versions.

Historically, Macs received support for major macOS updates for only 6-7 years after launch. M1 MBA is a nearly a 4 year old product. That means only 3 years left. The extended updates from Apple are selective and do not cover all known security issues.

Depends what you mean by "long time" but I wouldn't call 3 years that.
 
Historically, Macs received support for major macOS updates for only 6-7 years after launch. M1 MBA is a nearly a 4 year old product. That means only 3 years left. The extended updates from Apple are selective and do not cover all known security issues.

Depends what you mean by "long time" but I wouldn't call 3 years that.
That is one major reason I didn't bother getting a used M1 MBA this year, despite the recent drop in used M1 pricing. The other major reason is I am hopeful the next MBA (M4?) will get 12 GB base.
 
There’s really no excuse for Apple to not support M1 machines for at least 10 years from release.

I hope you're right, but I think that's unrealistic. It will cost them money to do that (testing costs alone aren't trivial). It doesn't mean you can't use it for 10-years, it just means that at some point you won't get the latest OS features and upgrades.

Yeah, they're stuffing AI features into all the next OS releases, and at some point the NPU's in M1 or M2 chips wont be good enough to handle all the bloat, so they'll cut it off.

Feel free to revisit this post in 2 years when it happens

I agree. Everything has gotten 'supisiciously' powerful lately and software isn't keeping up with the hardware. I think (well, I hope...) we're going to see massive changes in computing in the next couple of years that will actually make use of the CPU performance we have in these devices.
 
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The core problem is security updates. If I bought a "new" Mac today, and its not getting security updates in 24 months, that will be a concern.

It would be nice if they just said when the updates were going away, as my wife has a seldom used older Mac that I have concerns about...but I'm not replacing with another machine that's only $50 cheaper now than it was 18 months ago.

I think you'll be good for security patches for much longer than 24 months from date of last sale. I mean the last Intel MacBook Pro was 2019 and it still got MacOS 14 Sonoma.
 
These are, by any means, still very good machines capable of almost anything an average consumer needs from a laptop personal computer.

What I would be concerned, though, is for how long will Apple keep updating MacOS on these machines. These were launched in 2020, almost 4 years ago. If I stopped getting new MacOS updates in the 2026 release, I would not be very happy.

(I've been bitten by this for a long time, my Late-2012 iMac Intel Core i7 32GB GTX680 3TB Fusion got its last update on Catalina (2019), when it was still a very capable machine; and in the following years, it started becoming more and more unusable due to apps lacking support of older OSes. I'm now running Monterey using OpenCore Legacy Patcher and it's still very very usable).
Apple hasn't even dropped Intel yet. My guess would be M1 MBA will receive the last OS upgrade in 2027
 
I think you'll be good for security patches for much longer than 24 months from date of last sale. I mean the last Intel MacBook Pro was 2019 and it still got MacOS 14 Sonoma.
I'd rather they just lay it out so we aren't guessing. They've also dropped support for devices the day after they stopped selling them too.
 
I'd rather they just lay it out so we aren't guessing. They've also dropped support for devices the day after they stopped selling them too.
They are unlikely to do that. 1) They never know when some technical issue might age out a device i.e they only see so far into the future. 2) it would give the device a perceived shelf-life at time of sale which can only hurt sales.

I didn’t realize they had dropped support that quickly before. Which devices?
 
They are unlikely to do that. 1) They never know when some technical issue might age out a device i.e they only see so far into the future. 2) it would give the device a perceived shelf-life at time of sale which can only hurt sales.

I didn’t realize they had dropped support that quickly before. Which devices?
It was common place in the iPhone time to have the device be fully unsupported after 2 years. They also dropped support for some of the PowerPC and Intel mac's fairly quickly in certain circumstances. I doubt it will happen now as they don't have an evil company to say "they're the problem!" but it would be nice for them to give assurances.
 
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