I expect modest speed and battery improvement. Incremental as usual…….I’m expecting a very modest improvement, but I sure hope you’re right! 🫶🏻
All I want to see is hardware raytracing.
I expect modest speed and battery improvement. Incremental as usual…….I’m expecting a very modest improvement, but I sure hope you’re right! 🫶🏻
The VisionPro comes out early next year with M3; Apple is releasing M3 before - probably November.
I expect a quiet iMac update in spring to M3.
From Apple’s point of view, the cost of providing more RAM and storage is not about the component cost but about the lost upgrade revenue. They are going to want to figure out a way to not lose that, either by increasing the base price or finding a way to temp people into upgrading to yet higher levels.The cost price for Apple would be how much? The SSD's probably vary by about $2 at the moment as desktops and laptops are abandoning such small disks. Apple usually waits until storage becomes so niche it is dropped by the factories. The RAM price difference... what do we reckon, $10 difference per unit for Apple?
The answer is easy. Make 8MB to 12MB a paid upgrade, as well as upgrades to 24MB and 36MB 🤑🤑🤑From Apple’s point of view, the cost of providing more RAM and storage is not about the component cost but about the lost upgrade revenue. They are going to want to figure out a way to not lose that, either by increasing the base price or finding a way to temp people into upgrading to yet higher levels.
I do agree with you. They're flogging a dead horse with their ridiculous upgrade costs, which are ludicrously profitable. I was just saying that historically they wait for the tipping point on storage, where the smaller disk they offer as basic becomes harder to source and more pricey than the next size up.From Apple’s point of view, the cost of providing more RAM and storage is not about the component cost but about the lost upgrade revenue. They are going to want to figure out a way to not lose that, either by increasing the base price or finding a way to temp people into upgrading to yet higher levels.
When you think about it, the fact they wait for a tipping point like that suggests the specs on these machines are pretty bad considering their premium pricingI do agree with you. They're flogging a dead horse with their ridiculous upgrade costs, which are ludicrously profitable. I was just saying that historically they wait for the tipping point on storage, where the smaller disk they offer as basic becomes harder to source and more pricey than the next size up.
Even with Apple Silicon efficiency, 8GB can be a constrain in some mid-level, pro-user situations, 12GB as entry level could be great for future proofing and for high performance task like video editing and gaming, things that entry level users don't think they will do but sooner or later they will do.Why?
Let's face it, the 13" MBP is an SE model... old design with updated chip.I actually really don't mind that one. It's basically just a MacBook Air with a fan, but for a lot of people, that's exactly what they need. It's a thin and light computer that's reasonably powerful, has a little bit of extra battery life, and won't throttle if they decide to hammer it.
The only thing I wish they'd do to it is add magsafe to it. Having only two ports and then being forced to use one of them to charge is a bit ridiculous when even the Air has a better IO situation. (I'm surprised they haven't tried to rebrand it as just the "MacBook," but sales would probably drop somewhat if they did.)
Pretty much. Never thought of it that way, I kinda just see it as a MacBook Air with a fan. But I suppose you're right, it is an older design with a new chip.Let's face it, the 13" MBP is an SE model... old design with updated chip.
Unpopular opinion but I feel like they might release a MacBook Pro 14 with M3 chip (for less than $1999) and raise the prices for the M3 Pro/Max by like a hundred, especially with the reports that TSMC N3 is more expensive and rumors that they'll be adding more RAM.It's such a shame the entry level Pro isn't just the 14" Pro chassis with the brains of the MacBook Air (well, plus the ability to competently run external displays like even the old Intel Macs could).
We must assume they have a surplus heap of 13" Pro aluminium shells laying about somewhere they'd rather not have to melt down.
Seems logical! They'd need to lower the base price for the Pro 14" by about $500, though, so I'm not sure if it would happen.Unpopular opinion but I feel like they might release a MacBook Pro 14 with M3 chip (for less than $1999) and raise the prices for the M3 Pro/Max by like a hundred, especially with the reports that TSMC N3 is more expensive and rumors that they'll be adding more RAM.
I don’t think that Apple would mess up their supply chain to the extent of having extra shells just lying around. What they may have is a production line setup and cranking out 13” MBPs at a low cost coupled with a significant number of corporate orders for a low cost “pro” machine.It's such a shame the entry level Pro isn't just the 14" Pro chassis with the brains of the MacBook Air (well, plus the ability to competently run external displays like even the old Intel Macs could).
We must assume they have a surplus heap of 13" Pro aluminium shells laying about somewhere they'd rather not have to melt down.
Can’t wait to see what the M3 can do. I’m surprised Apple hasn’t put an M chip in the Apple TV yet.
I would have had it as my work computer, but it fails to be "pro" enough for me, and I'm hardly the most demanding user 😅 Worked out ok for me as I ended up with the choice of 14 or 16 and took the 16. It's a lump, but it's not like I'm carrying it for hours at a time.I don’t think that Apple would mess up their supply chain to the extent of having extra shells just lying around. What they may have is a production line setup and cranking out 13” MBPs at a low cost coupled with a significant number of corporate orders for a low cost “pro” machine.
I don’t think that the current 13” MBP is really a consumer product. Some people do buy it but it is really tailored for institutional purchasing policies.
13" M1 MBP SEPretty much. Never thought of it that way, I kinda just see it as a MacBook Air with a fan. But I suppose you're right, it is an older design with a new chip.
They just need to add magsafe and I'll be happy.13" M1 MBP SE![]()
Unlikely, unfortunately.Has anything been hinted at that they may add ECC memory and/or make the SSD upgradable? Those two things are holding me back!
Never, ever mistake any MBP as a MacBook Air with a fan. MBP is a superior box.Pretty much. Never thought of it that way, I kinda just see it as a MacBook Air with a fan. But I suppose you're right, it is an older design with a new chip.
Well of course more is more; that is obvious. And of course most folks should buy more than 8 GB RAM. The question is why should Apple force lowest end users (e.g. granny with only email and K-12 administrators) needing absolute least cost to pay more than minimally necessary?Even with Apple Silicon efficiency, 8GB can be a constrain in some mid-level, pro-user situations, 12GB as entry level could be great for future proofing and for high performance task like video editing and gaming, things that entry level users don't think they will do but sooner or later they will do.
That's what Apple wants you to think.Never, ever mistake any MBP as a MacBook Air with a fan. MBP is a superior box.