M3 is already so powerful and I feel like M4 is coming wayyyy too soon. Honestly didn’t believe the rumors M4 was almost here already
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Apple's M4 MacBook Pro Lineup: What to Expect
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What kind of work are you doing that a M3 Max feels slow? i don’t believe you lol
i hope, a pro display xdr with promotion and maybe tweaked specs would be nice. Also would hope to see a matte finish that dosent impact the resolution as much
You get use to that over time. M2 Max makes M1 Max slow, M3 Max makes M2 Max slow, a future M4 Max makes M3 Max slow.
Considerably heavier. I also loved the size of the 12.
Dont worry. It’s built in to the updates to slow your older hardware down. I know updating completely made my old laptop unusable.You get use to that over time. M2 Max makes M1 Max slow, M3 Max makes M2 Max slow, a future M4 Max makes M3 Max slow.
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I suggest waiting for the release of the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite models. It should have better performance and battery life compared to the current Intel model.
I am joking but there are tons of posts of people needing the kind of power you find in datacenters on their laptop. I am just following the crowd around here.
Yeah that’s what I thought lol. If you really need that much power get a Mac Studio with a ridiculous amount of ram.I am joking but there are tons of posts of people needing the kind of power you find in datacenters on their laptop. I am just following the crowd around here.
I think this yearly update cycle on Macs is too much... At least on Intel, they seemed to go every couple of years. Macs would hold their resale value quite well. I feel this will cause faster depreciation.
Will the M4 still be vulnerable to being hacked like the rest of Apple Silicon?
I hope they fix that.
I hope they fix that.
Is that worse than reporting on the iPhone 17 the other day?
I remember people complaining about the lack of rumors in years past. Maybe, this is supposed to alleviate the tension.
What is this "ads" thing of which you speak? I am unfamiliar with it.
The only way they can keep increasing the performance of these chips is keep adding more cores.
They cant shrink these chips past 2nm anymore.
They cant increase the frequency much more. They had to crank up frequency of M3 chips to 4 GHZ. Past that you need expensive water cooling
We are getting down to the wire on shrinking CPU's any further. Cant crank up frequency past 4 GHZ cause major money investments in cooling.
They cant shrink these chips past 2nm anymore.
They cant increase the frequency much more. They had to crank up frequency of M3 chips to 4 GHZ. Past that you need expensive water cooling
We are getting down to the wire on shrinking CPU's any further. Cant crank up frequency past 4 GHZ cause major money investments in cooling.
I typically upgrade my laptop (which I use as my main workstation) every three years, but my M1 Max from October 2021 is still handling all my projects quite well. On the other hand, I waited four years last time (waiting for an Apple Silicon MacBook Pro) and was really struggling that fourth year. So I'm not sure if I need an upgrade, but late 2024 would be good timing. I do have two older laptops that I use for lighter tasks and they're getting too old to be useful, so it would be nice to replace those with the M1 and get the new M4 for my main machine.
Number of ANE cores is not by itself interesting.
More interesting is that ANE currently doesn’t scale from A to Max; it’s the same size on every chip.
There’s an interesting business model issue here as to why they chose this (want to run the same ML models at same performance across the entire generation?) and whether they will change it. Because right now you have this crazy situation where the ANE is a great accelerator on an iPhone, but basically useless on a Max bcs huge GPU will almost always beat it.
So I’d rather see increased core count coupled to some aggressive scaling as we increase chip size.
More interesting is that ANE currently doesn’t scale from A to Max; it’s the same size on every chip.
There’s an interesting business model issue here as to why they chose this (want to run the same ML models at same performance across the entire generation?) and whether they will change it. Because right now you have this crazy situation where the ANE is a great accelerator on an iPhone, but basically useless on a Max bcs huge GPU will almost always beat it.
So I’d rather see increased core count coupled to some aggressive scaling as we increase chip size.
i don’t think AI feature is important at all. We can access free Microsoft copilot and free OpenAI ChatGPT 3.5 without registering an account from any web browser at any time. Why we need built-in AI on the M4 chip? Just make it more costly.
Expecting to see an increase in RAM for the base M4. Will not be surprised to see MacBook Pro in January, followed by Air in April.