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The next iMac is sure to include this new display tech and it’s going to be a game changer

Sigh. Yet another assertion made so confidently and definitively.... but with no evidence to support it.

In fact, I would argue that it’s highly unlikely that the next iMac would include ProMotion. First on the basis that it’s much more likely that Apple would invest its R&D dollars in engineering this feature for MacBook Pro first, as it generates a far higher return and is presumably technically easier due to the lower resolution. Second, given that pushing the 5K display at the current refresh rate is already quite a challenge, suggesting that it’s imminently feasible to support ProMotion feels like a bit of a stretch.
 
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Sigh. Yet another assertion made so confidently and definitively.... but with no evidence to support it.

In fact, I would argue that it’s highly unlikely that the next iMac would include ProMotion. First on the basis that it’s much more likely that Apple would invest its R&D dollars in engineering this feature for MacBook Pro first, as it generates a far higher return and is presumably technically easier due to the lower resolution. Second, given that pushing the 5K display at the current refresh rate is already quite a challenge, suggesting that it’s imminently feasible to support ProMotion feels like a bit of a stretch.

Why is it a stretch? The current 2019 iMac is the same exact design since 2012. Isn’t it possible Apple has been working on an upcoming redesigned iMac for a few years now with updated display technology? The thing doesn’t even have HDR for crying out loud. Apple is trying to push that 5k display so hard as a strong selling point for the 27 iMac yet it lacks display technology features that have been widely available on the HDTV market for some time now such as HDR and 120hz Panels

There’s also the fact the current iMac’s display uses LED Technology, is it remotely possible Apple could switch to an OLED display for the redesigned iMac?
 
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Main benefit would be for gaming (a lot of gaming laptops/ monitors on the windows side now offer 144Hz even at the lower midrange). Is less motion blur when scrolling really something that's going to make current Macs suddenly obsolete? The main advantage on iPad that I can see was less latency with the pencil, and even that was a minor benefit unless you were really into digital art.
 
Main benefit would be for gaming (a lot of gaming laptops/ monitors on the windows side now offer 144Hz even at the lower midrange). Is less motion blur when scrolling really something that's going to make current Macs suddenly obsolete? The main advantage on iPad that I can see was less latency with the pencil, and even that was a minor benefit unless you were really into digital art.
And gaming on Mac is clearly not a scenario that Apple seems terribly bothered about optimising - evidenced by the fact that games perform so much worse on Macs than they do on Windows under Boot Camp.

Not sure I entirely agree that the main advantage on iPad is pencil latency, although I agree that is a benefit. I think the main advantage is just how it feels when scrolling. It’s just a nicer experience. Plus the ability to match frame rate when watching video to avoid judder.
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Why is it a stretch? The current 2019 iMac is the same exact design since 2012. Isn’t it possible Apple has been working on an upcoming redesigned iMac for a few years now with updated display technology? The thing doesn’t even have HDR for crying out loud. Apple is trying to push that 5k display so hard as a strong selling point for the 27 iMac yet it lacks display technology features that have been widely available on the HDTV market for some time now such as HDR and 120hz Panels

There’s also the fact the current iMac’s display uses LED Technology, is it remotely possible Apple could switch to an OLED display for the redesigned iMac?
Firstly, you’re conflating two things. The fact that you might think that the iMac needs a physical redesign doesn’t also naturally lead to the conclusion that it will also feature major display changes as part of that redesign. In fact, I think the opposite is more likely - spread out the physical redesign and functionality changes across TWO release generations, thereby triggering longer periods of boosted sales. This is good product management and is what Apple has been doing with the tick and tock of the non-‘S’ and ‘S’ generations of iPhone for years. Combining the physical redesign with a bunch of functionality or other tech changes just leads to a long period without change afterwards.

Also, Apple’s previous behaviour provides clues to their future behaviour, but in the opposite way that people in this forum tend to believe. There is a persistent view here that because a product hasn’t been significantly changed for a long period (to your point about the iMac having the same design since 2012) that that means Apple is likely to release a massive new upgrade with a new design and major functionality changes. But historically that view has tended to lead to disappointment - either because Apple actually does nothing (that long-running “new Mac mini” thread is a great example), or because when Apple eventually does release something, it’s a far more mundane release than people here wanted and predicted. Typically, if Apple isn’t making big changes to a product for a long-period (such as with the iMac) then the conclusion we can draw is that they don’t see the need to from a business perspective and it’s unlikely that they will sudden do something so contrary to established behaviour like release a new iMac with a new design and a whole bunch of brand new functionality.

And as I said before, from a business priorities perspective, iMac is not a priority for technology innovation - we know that from Apple’s behaviour to date, and we know that from what Apple has said about their sales numbers. MacBooks contribute far more to Apple’s revenue, and is a much more competitive market, so Apple is most likely to prioritise engineering investment there. So I don’t think it’s realistic to say that Apple will introduce ProMotion, or HDR, or OLED to iMac when none of those things are in the Mac products most important to Apple. And the fact that you can buy HDTVs that include some of these features is simply not relevant to Apple in terms of what they should or shouldn’t do with iMac, since those products are not competing with each other.

It’s important to separate likelihood and reality from wishes and fantasy. And I’m afraid that in my view - based on all the available evidence - it’s pure fantasy to say that the next iMac will include ProMotion, or HDR, or OLED. It’s certainly within the realm of possibility, yes, but not likely, in my view.
 
Why is it a stretch? The current 2019 iMac is the same exact design since 2012. Isn’t it possible Apple has been working on an upcoming redesigned iMac for a few years now with updated display technology? The thing doesn’t even have HDR for crying out loud. Apple is trying to push that 5k display so hard as a strong selling point for the 27 iMac yet it lacks display technology features that have been widely available on the HDTV market for some time now such as HDR and 120hz Panels

There’s also the fact the current iMac’s display uses LED Technology, is it remotely possible Apple could switch to an OLED display for the redesigned iMac?
My biggest criticism for 2019 iMac is not lack of major changes, but the fact that it took Apple 2 years to spec bump. Coffee Lake processors on iMac was released a year ago (April 2, 1018) and iMac should've been updated then.

2 years hiatus increases anticipation and expectations. I minimally expected all-SSD iMac, just like Mac mini. It still has Bluetooth 4.2, slower 2x2 MIMO Wi-Fi, no T2 processor for slower SSD throughput, only 2 Thunderbolt 3 ports, and no True Tone.

Perhaps rumors are correct about Apple switching to ARM? And Apple is saving all the best, including modern display panel and redesigned chassis for ARM-based iMac?
 
And gaming on Mac is clearly not a scenario that Apple seems terribly bothered about optimising - evidenced by the fact that games perform so much worse on Macs than they do on Windows under Boot Camp.

Not sure I entirely agree that the main advantage on iPad is pencil latency, although I agree that is a benefit. I think the main advantage is just how it feels when scrolling. It’s just a nicer experience. Plus the ability to match frame rate when watching video to avoid judder.
Yes Mac as a platform for gaming is an absolute dumpster fire, and nor is there any real benefit to boot camping Windows on your mac to play games as opposed to just buying a dedicated windows machine for the purpose. I'm not sure really how much value their is in less blurry text while you're scrolling, particularly at 27", though video (and film) is arguably a good reason to include it on iMac where the screen is large enough to really enjoy content and benefit from the extra fidelity it provides the image. it sounds to me like OP is dramatically overvaluing the benefit of ProMotion as a non-retina -> retina level improvement, which you could argue depreciated all previous models greatly due to it's significant improvements... I think it's far less significant than that, though.
 
Why is it a stretch? The current 2019 iMac is the same exact design since 2012. Isn’t it possible Apple has been working on an upcoming redesigned iMac for a few years now with updated display technology? The thing doesn’t even have HDR for crying out loud. Apple is trying to push that 5k display so hard as a strong selling point for the 27 iMac yet it lacks display technology features that have been widely available on the HDTV market for some time now such as HDR and 120hz Panels

There’s also the fact the current iMac’s display uses LED Technology, is it remotely possible Apple could switch to an OLED display for the redesigned iMac?
And just by that last sentence you've lost all your credibility as a serious debate. OLED in iMac? Do you have any idea how much this thing would cost? Do you really think that Apple's target audience would be happy to shell out that amount of money just for OLED display alone? That is delusional I'm afraid.
HDR and 120Hz is more likely, OLED no way and to be honest I hope OLED will never come to computers (its flawed technology). microLED is more likely to be the right candidate but that is years away.

Just because you really want redesign etc. doesn't mean that you will mix reality with total fantasy.
And don't get me wrong, I too want a redesign etc. but I also know what is and isn't likely.
 
And just by that last sentence you've lost all your credibility as a serious debate. OLED in iMac? Do you have any idea how much this thing would cost? Do you really think that Apple's target audience would be happy to shell out that amount of money just for OLED display alone? That is delusional I'm afraid.
Dell made an OLED monitor a couple of years ago, UP3017Q ($3500), then quickly cancelled it due to "quality" issues.

I suspect OLED being unsuitable computer use has more to do with its cancellation. macOS has many static elements that would permanently damage the OLED panel, such as the menu bar and the dock.

Asus announced a 22" 4K OLED TV at whopping $5000, Asus ProArt PQ22UC. It has only 330 nits of peak brightness, which is probably meant to counter burn in concerns.
 
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Dell made an OLED monitor a couple of years ago, UP3017Q ($3500), then quickly cancelled it due to "quality" issues.

I suspect OLED being unsuitable computer use has more to do with its cancellation. macOS has many static elements that would permanently damage the OLED panel, such as the menu bar and the dock.

Asus announced a 22" 4K OLED TV at whopping $5000, Asus ProArt PQ22UC. It has only 330 nits of peak brightness, which is probably meant to counter burn in concerns.
Yep, OLED is not very good technology for computer screens. I think most people just throw this around because they are being manipulated by marketing of all the companies. It really is sad what adverts do to our views.
OLED is really DOA for computer screens. In fact, I got Sony X900F 65" TV even though some mentioned that I should go for LG OLED. Nah, don't want to babysit my tv nor do I want to pay the extra for it.
I hope apple will go to microLED on Apple watch soon because then we will know the process of transition has started. :)
 
And just by that last sentence you've lost all your credibility as a serious debate. OLED in iMac? Do you have any idea how much this thing would cost? Do you really think that Apple's target audience would be happy to shell out that amount of money just for OLED display alone? That is delusional I'm afraid.
HDR and 120Hz is more likely, OLED no way and to be honest I hope OLED will never come to computers (its flawed technology). microLED is more likely to be the right candidate but that is years away.

Just because you really want redesign etc. doesn't mean that you will mix reality with total fantasy.
And don't get me wrong, I too want a redesign etc. but I also know what is and isn't likely.

How do you so confidently “know” what’s likely and what’s not so likely any more than anybody else here on the forum? Apple used OLED in the iPhone X so it’s not like Apple never used OLED in their products. Besides, do you even know that OLED is not as expensive as you seem to claim so bluntly? I bought my LG EC9300 OLED Tv for $1800 when it was new back in 2016 and it’s a 55inch display so not sure where you get your cost figures for OLED being so expensive. And no OLED is not “flawed” technology, I’d beg to differ current LED display technology is flawed tech with its horrendous black levels compared to OLED Tvs which offer true black levels, OLED tvs also have built in burn in protection mechanisms such as screensavers that kick on automatically so there’s no need to “baby” anything.
OLED has shortcomings as well as advantages just like any other technology and I’m well aware MicroLED seems like a promising technology that might be implemented in future products. I recall reading an article here on macrumors about Apple working extensively on MicroLED so hopefully we get to see that sooner than later in future Apple products.
 
How do you so confidently “know” what’s likely and what’s not so likely any more than anybody else here on the forum? Apple used OLED in the iPhone X so it’s not like Apple never used OLED in their products. Besides, do you even know that OLED is not as expensive as you seem to claim so bluntly? I bought my LG EC9300 OLED Tv for $1800 when it was new back in 2016 and it’s a 55inch display so not sure where you get your cost figures for OLED being so expensive. And no OLED is not “flawed” technology, I’d beg to differ current LED display technology is flawed tech with its horrendous black levels compared to OLED Tvs which offer true black levels, OLED tvs also have built in burn in protection mechanisms such as screensavers that kick on automatically so there’s no need to “baby” anything.
OLED has shortcomings as well as advantages just like any other technology and I’m well aware MicroLED seems like a promising technology that might be implemented in future products. I recall reading an article here on macrumors about Apple working extensively on MicroLED so hopefully we get to see that sooner than later in future Apple products.
TVs are different. As someone pointed out here earlier, there were attempts for OLED screens but they failed and they were expensive.
OLED is expensive, it is flawed (burn in would be the worst feature for static UI in macOS etc.).
I get it, you see OLED popping up everywhere and you have it at home on your TV so you want that shiny thing on your computer also but TVs are not the same as screens.

And how do I know? I don't know but I use educated guess based on all the available information + common sense. You were the one who had the audacity to call the iMac OBSOLETE just because you don't have promotion - which is frankly hilarious. :)

So, all in all - read up a little bit on the tech to catch up and know why OLED is not happening any time soon (hopefully ever) in computer screens etc. or listen to the users here as they will try to help. Afterall, we are all here to learn something new as otherwise what is the point of forums :)
 
TVs are different. As someone pointed out here earlier, there were attempts for OLED screens but they failed and they were expensive.
OLED is expensive, it is flawed (burn in would be the worst feature for static UI in macOS etc.).
I get it, you see OLED popping up everywhere and you have it at home on your TV so you want that shiny thing on your computer also but TVs are not the same as screens.

And how do I know? I don't know but I use educated guess based on all the available information + common sense. You were the one who had the audacity to call the iMac OBSOLETE just because you don't have promotion - which is frankly hilarious. :)

So, all in all - read up a little bit on the tech to catch up and know why OLED is not happening any time soon (hopefully ever) in computer screens etc. or listen to the users here as they will try to help. Afterall, we are all here to learn something new as otherwise what is the point of forums :)

Apple wouldn’t have used OLED in the iPhone X if it was “flawed” technology and I’m going to heavily disagree with you on that. OLED displays bring incredible image quality with true black levels that an LED display will never match even with local dimming. The iPhone can have static content on the screen as well depending on what you do such as the time of day on the upper left status bar and the battery meter, WiFi indicator on the upper right etc and I never encountered any sort of burn in. YouTube videos with The “Up Next” bar on the bottom of the screen stays static on the display for long durations depending on how long a video I’m watching is when I watch YouTube content or listen to a podcast on YouTube with the screen turned on and I never encountered any burn in on my iPhone X in that instance either and I had my iPhone X for close to two years now so you should do more research on OLED before you bash the technology and call it “flawed”.

Now, I have done reading on MicroLED and apple’s goal on moving towards that with their future products so hopefully we get to see that. MicroLED is supposed to have the strengths of LED and OLED displays but only time will reveal what it actually brings and how it compares to current display tech.
 
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Apple wouldn’t have used OLED in the iPhone X if it was “flawed” technology and I’m going to heavily disagree with you on that. OLED displays bring incredible image quality with true black levels that an LED display will never match even with local dimming. The iPhone can have static content on the screen as well depending on what you do such as the time of day on the upper left status bar and the battery meter, WiFi indicator on the upper right etc. I have done reading on MicroLED and apple’s goal on moving towards that with their future products so hopefully we get to see that. MicroLED is supposed to have the strengths of LED and OLED displays but only time will reveal what it actually brings and how it compares to current display tech.
You are missing few things though.
Yes, iPhone does have static content but who has that content on for 10+ hours a day continuously?
Whereas on the computer if you work on it you will have static content for hours and hours. Burn in will occur in no time. I know all the benefits of OLED because I considered it briefly few months back when I was getting my TV (in the end settled for 65" Sony X900F) but OLED is flawed in many aspects that just escalated on the computer side.
MicroLED is the future (or something else). OLED is not and I hope Apple sees it. OLED is good for other devices (I have it in my AWatch). Also, see the growing number of people complaining about headaches because of the OLED on their iPhones? Imagine having it on the screen.

All in all, OLED is like fake gold. Looks awesome but when you look closer you realise its not that awesome an you feel duped :)
 
You are missing few things though.
Yes, iPhone does have static content but who has that content on for 10+ hours a day continuously?
Whereas on the computer if you work on it you will have static content for hours and hours. Burn in will occur in no time. I know all the benefits of OLED because I considered it briefly few months back when I was getting my TV (in the end settled for 65" Sony X900F) but OLED is flawed in many aspects that just escalated on the computer side.
MicroLED is the future (or something else). OLED is not and I hope Apple sees it. OLED is good for other devices (I have it in my AWatch). Also, see the growing number of people complaining about headaches because of the OLED on their iPhones? Imagine having it on the screen.

All in all, OLED is like fake gold. Looks awesome but when you look closer you realise its not that awesome an you feel duped :)

How likely is it Apple will introduce a MicroLED display in the upcoming redesigned iMac in your opinion?
 
How likely is it Apple will introduce a MicroLED display in the upcoming redesigned iMac in your opinion?
Almost zero (unless the redesign is 5-10 years away)

Here is what Apple is most likely going to do with microLED:

1) AWatch will get it first
2) 1-2 years later iPhone will get it
3) 1-3 years after that iPad will get it
4) 1-3 years after that iMac will get it
 
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