And who cares what Android engineers were doing? And what does Anroid becoming better or worse have to do with iOS?
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Apple’s software is fine — people just notice bugs because they actually use it
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The Apple maps debacle was much worse than anything that exists today. A new function/technology fell flat with a resounding thud. Apple rightfully took a lot of heat for the vaunted iOS 6.
People who know nothing about technology or what is involved with producing it typically have this perception.
Those of us who do this for a living realize that you don't know what you're talking about. Throwing money at a problem of this nature rarely fixes the problem. You can't just says "here's a few million, get rid of the bugs". Programmers aren't sitting at their desk adding bugs in hopes that a day will come will they'll get even more money to remove those bugs. And the same goes with people. If you have a software problem, adding more people to the mix doesn't necessarily solve the problem. Most times in fact, it just slows the process down. This problem (bugs in the OS) won't be solved with more money and resources.
As a developer myself, when I need to track down a complicated bug, nothing works better than putting on headphones, shutting out the outside world and isolating myself against interruptions, sometimes even quite literally "locking myself in a room". Giving me more money to fix that bug will certainly improvement my attitude, but you can't simply purchase additional brain power. From time to time (NOT all the time), it helps to have a second person there, but only if they're the right two people. And that's the limit. When you get to 3 people working together on the same issue, productivity almost ALWAYS goes down.
If Apple were to quadruple every single developers salary right now, that would do NOTHING to fix issues quicker. If Apple were to quadruple their development staff right now, that would do NOTHING to fix issues quicker.
Stop referring to the amount of money Apple has. That has no relevance on this issue in the slightest. This is all about smart people sitting down to figure out what they did wrong. They'll be done when they've figured it out. And there's just about nothing that can be done to force them to figure it out quicker. Solving bugs are like solving a Rubik's cube, you need the right brain, not the right wallet.
I agree - this is valid for ALL kind of engineering or scientific work and even for most complex work.
BUT: Evidently there is an increasing problem with their OS, be it IOS or OSX.
The worst you can do is put people under too much pressure with work-overload, fear to be fired, bad team-spirit and the most worse is unrealistic timetables and deadlines. No, there is one thing even more worse than that: Focussing human resources on irrelevant "new features" instead of first refine the already existing product.
Bad preferences for investing human resources can easily and rapidly lead to a deep fall of product quality and less loyal customers.
I think apple´s problems are here.
And I rather doubt that a crazy hardware designer already incapable to develop proper hardware design is the one to get even responsible for the software-Dpt.
Firing Jony Ive could be the first step to stop the problem. But there are a lot of strategical faults to correct, it seems for me… as well as leading the company back to proper innovative faith instead of glittery and superficial GUIs and so...
Jony Ive is not going to be fired; the market has spoken and they like the new Apple.
Key word "some" .Not all.ALL iPhones which use third party repairs are bricked.ALL iPhones which set the date to 1 Jan 1970 are bricked
There isn't a single bug on Android where all phones of a particular manufacturer are bricked on doing a certain algorithm
Except Apple Maps is still crap compared to Google Maps.Seriously just take a look at the traffic data and transit accuracy of Google Maps without any bias.Gmaps wipes the floor with it even now
There's a reason why Google Maps is still used the most on iOS FACTUALLY as per data gathered on iOS users
The point was missed entirely on your response to what you had originally posted and i replied to.(And fwiw, I use Apple maps in my iPhone)
And with the date bug it's only 64-bit devices, not "ALL" iPhones. The same unnecessary hyperbolic absolutes and extremes just keep on getting in the way and really just undermining any actual points that might be there.
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Yeah, but it is so comical it keeps him off my ignore list for the entertainment.
I can see that...it hasn't hit the comical level yet, but I'll try to shift my annoyance some and see if that works.
The overall point is.Apple Maps isnt a iOS 6 bug because it still isnt anywehre close to Google Maps
You are missing the point.Upgrading to Android Lollipop did not brick all Android devices,at least not the relevant latest flagship ones.Some Nexus 5 and 7 which are relatively new devices were affected.The issue is manufacturer specific.All of Samsung's or LG's flagships did not get bricked at the same time because there is no bug in the Android OS as a whole which bricks all devices of a certain category.In the case of Error 53 and the date issue its a overall OS level issue which needs to be addressed.
And lets be real here 32 but devices are hardly relevant at this point to be mentioned as they are so slow at this point that they might as well be unusable on iOS 9.My iPad Mini 1 is only used for Netflix because its such a degrading experienced compared to my fast Air 2
Wrong...NOT FACTUALLY. On iOS Apple Maps is used far more than Google Maps.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/12/07/apple-maps-usage-numbers/
The point is it's part of iOS and was a complete flop in iOS 6. Google maps has nothing, zero, nada, to do with anything.
Unfortunately it appears that you keep on missing the bigger underlying point that exaggerations and absolutes and extremes along with essentially meaningless generalizations and comparisons aren't really useful at best, and often enough just undermine anything useful that might be contained within those comments.
The latest data says otherwise.According to this report Apple holds 42% marketshare in the US while Android is on 52 % and yet Google Maps has a combined app usage of almost 51% with Apple Maps on 29%
http://9to5mac.com/2016/02/04/most-popular-smartphone-apps/
In many countries Apple Maps still lacks basic navigation features so for them its still a complete flop so I guess iOS 9 is crap right?
A huge difference between being a disaster and not fully supporting every square inch of earth. So by your measurement android is crap also as Google maps doesn't cover the earth?
That 51% combines Google Maps for both Android and iOS together. That isn't the percent of Google Maps being used on JUST iOS. Google Maps can be installed on both OS's while Apple Maps is iOS only. They explained in the article you linked that's why Google Maps shows a higher overall percent. That percent value is ALL smartphones.
On iOS, Apple Maps is still the most used by iPhone users. Because the vast majority are casual users and barely install anything 3rd party.
Having all that money doesn't create human resources. 600+ Software Engineer positions in the Santa Clara Valley. They want the developers, but people actually have to apply for the jobs and be qualified.
Edit: 386 relating to iOS alone.