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I honestly hope they don’t make smaller bezels on the iPad Pro 12.9 for one major reason! You need to hold the thing somewhere!!!! Unless they put a built in handle on the thing removing lost of the bezels will mean inadvertently touching the screen with the ‘holding hand’. I already tested this theory on the 10.5 in store!
 
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I honestly hope they don’t make smaller bezels on the iPad Pro 12.9 for one major reason! You need to hold the thing somewhere!!!! Unless they put a built in handle on the thing removing lost of the bezels will mean inadvertently touching the screen with the ‘holding hand’. I already tested this theory on the 10.5 in store!
Well...they could reduce the bezels on the other sides right? They are quite huge.
 
Don't really care to be honest

The trimmed 10.5 doesnt have me smitten when I envision a 12.9 version of that
 
I considered pulling the trigger on a 2nd gen 12.9 iPad Pro but a little worried this design is already obsolete with the larger iPad taking design cues from the thinner bezels on the 10.5 model.

I just bought one yesterday. I actually assume there will be a better one in the next year or year and a half. So what? This is always true.

Besides, with Best Buy selling them right now for an effective price of $550, it is simply too good of a deal to pass it up.
 
I didn't worry about possible upgrades (for a change). I needed/wanted the 12.9 now, so I bought it. I can see waiting if you can, but for me it was something I could use immediately. In my case, I mark up a ton of pdfs, which I find better on the 12.9 than my old 9.7. My eyes appreciate the bigger screen!
 
Products always change but there are better times to buy them.

Not really. Assuming you want/need a device and can afford it, there are only two GOOD reasons to hold off:
  1. You KNOW (or it is heavily rumored) a new device is coming within a month (two TOPS).
  2. The current device being sold, at the time you’re ready to buy, doesn’t meet a current need (and you don’t have unreasonable expectations of the next interaction - I.e. “i’m SURE the next iPad will have duel boot with OS X!”)

Future-proofing is a myth, through and through.
The next model won’t magically make your device last longer. Guess what? That iPhone 6 still runs very well if you’re using it for calls, music, watching movies, taking pics, etc. if you’re using it to process scientific data, then it might be worth upgrading.
 
I don’t fully understand your line of thinking here. If iPhone goes portless, why is the iPad MORE likely to go to usb c?

Apple loves lightening as they make a lot of money from licensing. If or when they go portless with the iPhone that licensing will drop to a fraction of what it is now.
At that point I think Apple would see the benefits of giving consumers a standardised port for their ‘laptop replacment’

Again this is not certain to happen but I do think it’s likely after the iPhone loses its port.
 
Im more interested in an iPad that drops top and bottom bezels for FaceID.
 
Apple loves lightening as they make a lot of money from licensing. If or when they go portless with the iPhone that licensing will drop to a fraction of what it is now.
At that point I think Apple would see the benefits of giving consumers a standardised port for their ‘laptop replacment’

Again this is not certain to happen but I do think it’s likely after the iPhone loses its port.

If/when the iPhone goes portless, then the iPad will follow suit 1 or 2 years later.
Even today, there are only two real reasons for the port:
  1. Power (fast charging)
  2. System Restores
 
That is true. But that "good time to buy" is highly subjective and varies greatly by the individual person's wants and needs. My indicator has been RAM. Whenever the next gen iPad bumps up the RAM to the next level, that is when I buy. I've done that since day-1. (it helped me to avoid "clunkers")

That is why I ended up buying a 1st gen 12.9 Pro *AFTER* the 9.7 Pro was announced that it had only 2GB RAM. (that helped me avoid a device that was discontinued only 15 months later) And it is why I won't be looking to buy another one until the 1st gen that offers more than 4GB RAM. FOR ME, things like TrueTone and ProMotion are gimmicks that are not worth spending additional money for by upgrading more frequently.

So for me, it is RAM, for others it will be different.

what about the integrated pencil, what if they added micro ssd or edge screen like the Samsung for better water protection (no external ports) ? That being said I'm with you on the Ram. thats a great idea.
 
what about the integrated pencil, what if they added micro ssd or edge screen like the Samsung for better water protection (no external ports) ? That being said I'm with you on the Ram. thats a great idea.
What's your point with these hypothetical additions? Trying to find what would be the tipping point for me to break my RAM rule-of-thumb? :confused:

Looking at Apple's history with the iPad, they have not added anything to a generation that is "ground breaking" that doesn't also include a RAM increase.
 
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If/when the iPhone goes portless, then the iPad will follow suit 1 or 2 years later.
Even today, there are only two real reasons for the port:
  1. Power (fast charging)
  2. System Restores

I’m not so sure iPad can go portless. If you are using it for buisness you need to be able to charge it out and about.
How do you wirelessly charge an iPad when using it in laptop mode? I don’t really like wireless charging full stop but on an iPad it makes no sense.
 
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I’m not so sure iPad can go portless. If you are using it for buisness you need to be able to charge it out and about.
How do you wirelessly charge an iPad when using it in laptop mode? I don’t really like wireless charging full stop but on an iPad it makes no sense.

That’s actually a really good point. But Apple would probably say the same thing they said for the 12 inch Macbook when people complained you couldn’t charge and use the usb c port at the same time. “It has all day battery life. You’ll probably just charge it at night when you’re asleep”
 
That’s actually a really good point. But Apple would probably say the same thing they said for the 12 inch Macbook when people complained you couldn’t charge and use the usb c port at the same time. “It has all day battery life. You’ll probably just charge it at night when you’re asleep”

I don’t think they intend a 12” MacBook for business use though, they are pushing the iPad Pro as a business tool.
 
Oh hell yes they do. They totally intend for business people to use the 12 inch MacBook for everything whatever they need. It’s not there to do graphics intensive work, but people running businesses totally use it for pro stuff that makes them money.
 
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Oh hell yes they do. They totally intend for business people to use the 12 inch MacBook for everything whatever they need. It’s not there to do graphics intensive work, but people running businesses totally use it for pro stuff that makes them money.

I’m sure people do use it for that but I’m not sure Apple really pushes that angle.
 
I’m sure people do use it for that but I’m not sure Apple really pushes that angle.

Honestly though, every time we consumers try to figure out what Apple means they throw us a curve ball and leave us confused
 
I considered pulling the trigger on a 2nd gen 12.9 iPad Pro but a little worried this design is already obsolete with the larger iPad taking design cues from the thinner bezels on the 10.5 model.

I am not worried because I never buy 1st generation products.

1st gen products of Apple tend to have faults which is then later fixed in the 2nd gen.

Also the iPhone X doesn’t make me worried about my current iPhone 6S plus. So I doubt the iPad Pro 3 will make me worried.
 
I’m not so sure iPad can go portless. If you are using it for buisness you need to be able to charge it out and about.
How do you wirelessly charge an iPad when using it in laptop mode? I don’t really like wireless charging full stop but on an iPad it makes no sense.

I totally think it could go port-less. If it’s just the contact wireless charging (what the iPhone 8/X uses) then they won’t remove the port. They’ll only remove the port on the iPhone and iPad when it’s contact-less wireless charging.
 
I didn't worry about possible upgrades (for a change). I needed/wanted the 12.9 now, so I bought it. I can see waiting if you can, but for me it was something I could use immediately. In my case, I mark up a ton of pdfs, which I find better on the 12.9 than my old 9.7. My eyes appreciate the bigger screen!

iPad Pro is more like computer than a phone anyway when it comes to upgrades. Notice how you don’t jump every year to buy a new laptop and instead try to get 3-4 years out of it before upgrading? I look at the iPad the same way. Which is why I had the 12.9” Pro 1st ten and now the 2nd gen. iPad Pro first ten had double the RAM than any other iPad at the time and was still clocked higher than the 9.7 Pro when it came out. To me that’s thinking forward compatibility and being able to hang on for longer. I got the newer 2017 one only because hubby and I needed a second one. We still have the first gen 12.9” Pro and we now have a 2017 as well. We use them for business presentations using keynote and now using the iPhone as the remote - it’s awesome :) and super portable!

Hoping to get at least another 2 years out of the 1st generation 12.9” Pro and 3-4 out of the 2017 version. And as long as my iPhone 7 Plus works I don’t plan to upgrade that for a few more years either.
 
Speaking for myself, nope. I like having that bezel when it comes to holding the 12.9" 2nd gen when I draw. Would I like more screen space? Yes, but I think the bezel-less design would not help me in the way that I draw using Procreate (split screen: one half is the image or art I am attempting to draw from, and the other half is Procreate.

Unless Apple makes a Mini with Pencil capabilities, I really cannot see myself buying another iPad, much less a Pro model. I enjoy drawing on my iPP, but it's not a must own for me.
 
Well, buy a different cable then? That’s a non issue.
They are all USB2 cables. You cannot buy a lightning to usb3 cable, not even from third parties. It’s actually a major productivity issue for me.
 
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