IPP 12,9 1st gen here, achieved early in 2017, so 4,5 years in use. Battery still very good albeit obviously not as good as new. I am going to keep this for some more years.
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iPad Pro Are people concerned with battery degradation with iPad Pro?
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I can confirm. My mini 2 on IOS 10 has much better stand-by than any other iPad I have (and I have many), and so does also my iPad 2 on IOS 9 (man that thing has 750 cycles but still 93% battery capacity...). They lose like 2-3% during the night, while the other iPad lose 15-20% on iPadOS 14 and 13.
Yep. Honestly, I have no idea what iOS is doing in the background every single day that it constantly needs that much power. At least on the A12-based Air 3 and A14-based Air 4, standby usage is ~10% or less.
I've even tried completely disabling Siri but no go. I still see Siri standby battery drain.
I'm with the don't worry/be happy crowd on this. As you point out, degradation is inevitable. We all need to make our own financial calculations, but my computing equipment is either tools or toys (my iPP is a bit of both, frankly). For me to get the most out of it, I need to use it. That will degrade the battery-- protecting the battery means I'm not using it, or not using it as fully and comfortably as I'd like.
I don't know what a battery replacement will cost in 3 years, but for now it's $99. I'd enjoy the heck out of your iPad, put $3 in a jar every month, and replace the battery in 3 years if you think it's wearing down.
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Just get AppleCare. My original iPad Pro had its battery replaced (actually, as noted above, it was replaced with a "new" unit) in the last month of my coverage and so it's still going strong.
I have the original 9.7" iPad Pro and its battery is still pretty decent after five years if I'm not doing anything demanding. I have next to no standby drain if I just put it in airplane mode which is fine because I dont need it to update anything when I am not using it.
It's only $100 to have Apple replace the iPad Pro's battery. Totally worthwhile expense.
It's only $100 to have Apple replace the iPad Pro's battery. Totally worthwhile expense.
with iPhone that's true, with iPad it's not, if you don't meet the requirements they don't want you money...
Yes, I forgot to mention that I have, and still occasionally use, my 9.7" iPad Pro and it has held up well also. Just enjoy using your iPad as you want to without worrying about it is my motto.
I'm not worried. I was just saying that $99 to replace a battery in a five year old iPad Pro is pretty insignificant.
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Funnily enough, the iPad Pro 9.7 is the reason I started being more "gentle" with my iPads.
The Pro 9.7 was fast enough and iOS was evolved enough that it was mostly able to replace my laptop. That one saw 16-hour days (3rd display and PDF markup during work hours, bedtime e-reader at night). I was pretty much charging it 1-2x a day. Onscreen battery life dropped around 10-20% just after the 1st year. When the iPad 5th gen was released, got one to use for night reading so the Pro 9.7 could rest (and so I don't get tangled up in the charging cable while tossing and turning).
Caveat there, as @Digitalguy mentioned, Apple's not gonna replace the iPad's battery (well, the entire iPad) until it meets their threshold, and Apple's 80% always seems to be much lower versus Coconut Battery/iMazing. Also, if there are other defects on the iPad, you may have to do the OOW repair instead (one of the reasons I get AC+).
The only reason Apple's even doing no-questions asked paid battery replacements for iPhones is because of #batterygate.
With that said, no point babying iPads. I use whatever fits the task at hand. I do try to stick to best practices when it comes to charging though (keyword being try) and keeping my old devices allows me to spread the workload.
To maximize the battery-life on li-ion device, you should keep the battery around 20%-80% or so. Charging, especially over nights usually keeps the iPad at 100% for longer periods of time. If this is so harmful, then why Apple doesnˋt give an option to set the max charge state at 80% on iPads (or iPhones). It should be pretty easy to do via software.
Why doesn´t Apple allow the user to decide if he wants to set a certain charging level without unplugging the device manually?
For example, on Teslas this is basic stuff to keep the battery life healthy as possible.
Why doesn´t Apple allow the user to decide if he wants to set a certain charging level without unplugging the device manually?
For example, on Teslas this is basic stuff to keep the battery life healthy as possible.
That YouTube issue is definitely a you problem because I’ve been using yt for over 8 hours now and it dropped 20-22%. It also doesn’t heat up. Could be another app interfering here. Try force quitting the app and trying again. I also have an M1 11” Pro.
I know. Just saying if the iPad has other defects aside from battery (e.g. white spot, bending, major scratche/dings), Apple may reject doing the OOW battery service and instead require the full OOW service fee of $379-749 for iPad Pros depending on model.
One thing I had been wondering is if the white spots, which is not accidental damage, but a defect caused by Apple themselves, counts too...
FWIW, my almost 7 years old iPad Air 2 still has about 85% of its original battery capacity (@ CoconutBattery) and can be used for 3-5 hours non-stop. I find that for some reason iPad batteries age better than those of iPhones or MacBooks.
not all iPad batteries age equally... my mini 2 aged much better than my mini 4, my 11 pro is aging much better that first gen 12.9 (battery replaced shortly after I got the 11 pro...). I keep track of the health of all my batteries at least once a month in a file.
If longevity is a concern, then I don't recommend looking at the iPad Pro (for the reasons you've given). IMO, there's a disconnect between the iPad's design and the intended/expected lifespan. Most of it chalked up to style and form. Why have a machined aluminum body that'll last for 20+ years if everything else won't be effectively usable after 5-7 years?
If I could buy an iPad in an Amazon Fire-type chassis for $200, I'd do it.
The base model iPads continue to offer the best value, IMO. The 6th gen is still a great device (and the 8th gen is even better). If you need something more than that, then I suggest doing something similar to what I've done... take a hard look at what your needs and wants are.
See what things are really better suited for different form-factors. You might find that rather than buying a single device to try to accomplish different purposes, it may be more beneficial and more cost effective to have 2 devices.
I paid a premium for a 12.9 iPad Pro configuration in an attempt to have a single converged mobile device. Although it "worked", it was expensive and still required compromises. But when I took a step back and split out the functionality, I was able to buy a 13" Macbook Air and 6th gen iPad for LESS than an iPad Pro, keyboard, etc. And while the combo was not as portable, it was still portable enough and provided far more functionality and flexibility.
I've since moved on from that combo, but the lessons learned through that have carried over to alternatives (with even greater success and savings).
Apple didn't publicly acknowledge the issue so probably manager's discretion. You may get lucky and get a free replacement but the opposite can happen, too.
I think about it but battery replacements aren't astronomical so it's just a cost of doing business as far as I'm concerned. The iPad Pro is such a powerful creative tool and so essential to my workflow these days.
Battery life seems far better on my 2nd 12.9 pro than the one I returned. I used to have massive drain with the magic keyboard but this one seems fine
iPads seem to have among the best batteries that I’ve ever seen in a mobile device. The school I teach at still has 2nd gen iPads from 2011 that can run for hours on their original batteries! I’ve never noticed significant battery degradation on any of my personal iPads before the point when I decide to replace them for other reasons. Battery longevity is one thing I’ve never worried about with iPads.