though that's exactly what apple did with 2010 Mac Pro. they announced it one month in advance.
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Are the Mac Pros ever coming???
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though that's exactly what apple did with 2010 Mac Pro. they announced it one month in advance.
I gave up on Apple in regards to workstations. Just cave in and buy a PC workstation instead of waiting for apple to over charge you for dated workstation hardware.
The wait times between releases of new professional hardware is just unacceptable in my opinion. I think people just don't want to accept the fact that apple is not really competing in the professional market anymore.
The wait times between releases of new professional hardware is just unacceptable in my opinion. I think people just don't want to accept the fact that apple is not really competing in the professional market anymore.
HP, Dell and BOXX offer i7 workstations that are half the price of the
the current base Mac Pro and 50% faster. Sorry, Choice is better.
Nobody is fooled. Well, almost nobody.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Pro is going to get an update (no solid info from my sources one way or the other), but Apple not having an announcement up isn't worrying me.
Apple killing the 15" Macbook Pro? Depending on what it's replacement looks like, that worries me.
You are right, I am not a fool, as long as Apple makes a Mac Pro, I'll stick with Apple.
You've mentioned this before, but I've never actually seen evidence of this or had any other source validate these claims. So such direct information such as this must be rare indeed. And if this only occurs for an EOL product replaced with a new product, even more so (since such an event isn't that frequent vs. typical product release cycles).
And that brings us to the real issue, which is that large/big buyers are not the MP's target sales audience, and ultimately, not where the MP's income is primarily derived. Most of the creative work is done by independents and SMB's (even the "big" guys don't do all of the work, they subcontract it out - just look at the credits in any effects-heavy movie = litany of small companies credited for their part, such as one for smoke, another for water, ... and so on sorts of division of labor).
So leaving their primary purchasers in the dark is bad business IMO, as even though they're only buying a machine or two at a time, there are far more of them = majority of sales are from small quantity purchases by independent/SMB's.
It doesn't make any logical sense. Paranoia or lack of caring would explain it however, and there is some evidence to support that idea in a growing number of MP owners. They're concerned, and rightly so. If Apple has no intention of abandoning these people, all they need to do, is make a public statement in order to reassure them.
Rather simple, but it's a step they're not bothering with, which further increases the worry in potential buyers. Such an issue is at least as dangerous as the Osbourne Effect IMO, as the lack of information feeds the fear, which can push buyers to seek alternative solutions.
The licensing costs will vary from nothing to zero credit, and have to completely re-purchase another license for the intended platform per application suite.
But from a long-term analysis, if switching to a new platform stabilizes their work environment and expenses, it's the better way to go. Even more so if the productivity is increased (i.e. getting access to new features earlier as the software vendor will provide them in their biggest sellers first, then work their way down, assuming it's possible to add those features under a particular platform).
Given your own statements, even graphics card drivers could be viewed this way (10 bit instead of 8 bit) combined with faster bug fixes (bugs will happen, so the speed of correction is important).
This has kind of been a point of irritation for me. I thought it would be worked out given that a limited number of combinations supposedly worked under Leopard, and Apple claims that mini displayport and thunderbolt support the displayport 1.2 standard. There was kind of a trend away from sRGB displays. The newer ones require quite a bit of care in calibration. For a while the only thing that did a decent job was a spectrophotometer which is not something not everyone owns. Usually you'd own one if you have to do things like validate print outputs or "linearize" a printing device under whatever RIP software. I switched to using an i1 display pro. I warm up the device for 15 minutes or so and the display for close to an hour before doing this. Even then I think the 8 bit output crushes the shadows a bit given the way shadow values are distributed along a gamma 2.2 device. Reviews on the web suggest the same thing. OpenGL can be smooth or weird depending on the application, and Apple's system of color management has exhibited some odd behaviors that seemed to start around SL (yes I know they shifted default system gamma at that time).
What I found irritating was that Apple sometimes falls behind in addressing areas where they used to be exceptional. The lack of workstation type gpus with stable drivers is a bit irritating. In some cases these are required for 10 bit drivers under Windows, but I think it works on a wider range of cards under Linux (oddly).
Anyway if I do switch at some point, it won't be for the cheapest hardware available. I'd still look at quality systems. I'm just not sure I like Apple's direction looking at their responsiveness and overall design choices for things in the past several years.
By the way, do you know any good books on learning C++? I wished to learn some of the fundamentals there, as it's used in shader programming. I'm just not entirely sure where to start with such a subject.
It's not, given some of the posts I've seen in this thread.
But obviously I can't back that up without causing problems, and neither can the original posters. Some people in this thread are making things up, but I've seen one post specifically that matches the little I've heard about the Mac Pro.
The leverage Apple has is that if people who they keep in the know start talking, the flow of information stops.
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Exactly what is worrying me this time around. I actually do still think at least one more update is in the cards soon (although a modest one), just not happy about the lack of info at this stage. If and when they do decide to kill it off, I would expect them to have at least some more powerful alternative to the current imac or mac mini ready to announce.
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Well, if Apple hasn't announced a new Mac Pro by the time HP announces there new workstations I will switch to HP. Sad because I've been with Apple since the very first Mac 128.
Well, if Apple hasn't announced a new Mac Pro by the time HP announces there new workstations I will switch to HP. Sad because I've been with Apple since the very first Mac 128.
Maybe if you perform some crazy ritual and sacrifice a chicken the Mac Pro will get an update. It might even be within the next year if you use a big chicken.
I wouldn't.
Fortunately, I'm feeling more optimistic about that future recently. When it happens, you'll have a few options:
• Start using Thunderbolt. The good news is it looks like that in the very near future Thunderbolt will be fast enough for GPUs or RAID arrays, so the functionality loss over the Mac Pro won't be as severe.
• Switch to Linux, because Windows 8 looks to abandoning pros as well.
The Mac Pro is a perfectly great machine, and if it was updated tomorrow, I would gladly recommend it. You'll have a awesome Mac with at least three years of support.
But pro Mac users should probably deal with all their emotional attachments to the Mac Pro line (and possibly the Pro line in general), and prepare themselves for a plan b when the time comes.
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For me, nothing in the current line up comes close regardless of what you attach to it, and have you ever felt the back of an imac? It's a serious heat trap. I'd have to wait and see what the highest end Ivy Bridge boxes Apple comes out with and then decide. I am heavily invested in OSX apps and workflow so moving to a pc isn't exactly high on my list. I do think Apple will address this is some way or another. At this stage I still expect a 2012 model though.
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Ok then lets hope for early April then.
Would not suffice. They can't be used in dual processor configurations. They ain't got the links for it. On the low end they could be used but Apple has always used Xeon's across the board. Those new E5 Xeon's were just released. Stay tuned...
My plans A and B are as follows. I use both PS CS5 on a both Windows and Mac HDs on a Mac HD. My MBP has the Mac version on it but no PS on its Windows partition. Another Windows only laptop has the second Windows PS on it. That means that I've needed two PS licenses either of which is a $200.00 ticket (I hope!) to CS6.
The way things are going I'm planning on buying CS6 for only one platform. Hopefully by the time CS6 ships I'll know. Currently my opinion changes almost weekly. If the MP is gone then I'm going with CS6 Windows. The MP makes an excellent Windows machine for my needs.
After installing Lion I felt really strongly that the end was near and envisioned a Windows future. Then when I tried the cluster**** known as Windows 8 even Lion seemed pretty darn great.
I think the Mac Pro Yes/No, shipping Mountain Lion and shipping Windows 8 will tell me what I need to know.
The way things are going I'm planning on buying CS6 for only one platform. Hopefully by the time CS6 ships I'll know. Currently my opinion changes almost weekly. If the MP is gone then I'm going with CS6 Windows. The MP makes an excellent Windows machine for my needs.
After installing Lion I felt really strongly that the end was near and envisioned a Windows future. Then when I tried the cluster**** known as Windows 8 even Lion seemed pretty darn great.
I think the Mac Pro Yes/No, shipping Mountain Lion and shipping Windows 8 will tell me what I need to know.
iMacs cool nicely. Have you ever felt the back of a Mac Pro? Just as hot really...
With something like Thunderbolt the advantage is the GPU and RAID is outside the machine anyway for cooling.
The rumor that Apple is moving more towards integrated graphics, and the future of the 15" Macbook Pro as questionable should be a giant hint to you.
But yeah, I know nothing definite about if there will be a 2012 Mac Pro.