Are the new M1 Macs using 2x2 or 3x3 wifi?

[maxsquared]

Does it support 160 MHz?

Just discovered my router does, it would be good if it does, then 2 port would be enough for me.

 

[satinsilverem2]

Does it support 160 MHz?

Just discovered my router does, it would be good if it does, then 2 port would be enough for me.

I dont believe so. I dont know of any Apple devices that support 160 MHz channels. I have a feeling that the M1 is using the same wifi chipsets as the iPad/iPhone.

 

[KPOM]

Anyone tested against WiFi 6 yet to see what speeds they pull via AX?

I'm getting 1200MB/s from a WiFi 6 router (ASUS AX86U).

 

[maxsquared]

I'm getting 1200MB/s from a WiFi 6 router (ASUS AX86U).

1200 MB/s? On a 10 gig network?

 

[KPOM]

1200 MB/s? On a 10 gig network?

It is using an 80MHz channel. I haven’t tried forcing the router to use a larger channel.

 

[JamieLannister]

I just picked up an M1 mini - I didn't see this thread but the m1 mini does not support VHT160 - I have it enabled on my UAP-AC-HD - it's 866mbps locked for the mini using VHT80 on 802.11ac - this is so apple-like to do this. There's no need for wifi6 at all for me at the moment and it's absolutely pathetic of them to pair it up this way with a 2x2 antenna. Not to mention lack of 10G connection AND I just realized it only has 2 usb-c ports! WHAT THE F??!! Plenty of space in the rear just like the intel enclosure but only to have 2 USB-C ports?! I'm seriously going to return this crap of a machine.

 

[MK500]

1200 MB/s? On a 10 gig network?

This is the big problem with Wifi 6 right now. Almost nobody setting up Wifi 6 access points is wiring them to > 1Gbit connections. Many access points that can handle multiple Gbits of Wifi bandwidth don't even have > 1Gbit network ports! It's kind of crazy.

So what you end up with is a lot of people being excited their device is connecting at 1200Mbps or even much more, but they don't realize the access point has a SHARED 1Gbit connection to the actual network.

When I started moving critical connections on my network to 10Gbit I was amazed how few wifi access points even have 2.5Gbit ports.

 

[JamieLannister]

This is the big problem with Wifi 6 right now. Almost nobody setting up Wifi 6 access points is wiring them to > 1Gbit connections. Many access points that can handle multiple Gbits of Wifi bandwidth don't even have > 1Gbit network ports! It's kind of crazy.

So what you end up with is a lot of people being excited their device is connecting at 1200Mbps or even much more, but they don't realize the access point has a SHARED 1Gbit connection to the actual network.

When I started moving critical connections on my network to 10Gbit I was amazed how few wifi access points even have 2.5Gbit ports.

That why you aggregate the ports. But yea, 95% of consumer market wireless access points are garbage.

 

[4sallypat]

I just picked up an M1 mini - I didn't see this thread but the m1 mini does not support VHT160 - I have it enabled on my UAP-AC-HD - it's 866mbps locked for the mini using VHT80 on 802.11ac - this is so apple-like to do this. There's no need for wifi6 at all for me at the moment and it's absolutely pathetic of them to pair it up this way with a 2x2 antenna. Not to mention lack of 10G connection AND I just realized it only has 2 usb-c ports! WHAT THE F??!! Plenty of space in the rear just like the intel enclosure but only to have 2 USB-C ports?! I'm seriously going to return this crap of a machine.

The M1 is an ENTRY level AS device.

If you want higher / better features, return it and wait for their next offerings - Mx / M2 on iMac Pro or Mac Pro or the rumored Mini Pro......

I love my base M1 Mini - it runs circles around the 2012 i7 Mini server plus no more heat, no more noisy fans kicking up, and no more dreaded beachballs...

 

[KPOM]

This is the big problem with Wifi 6 right now. Almost nobody setting up Wifi 6 access points is wiring them to > 1Gbit connections. Many access points that can handle multiple Gbits of Wifi bandwidth don't even have > 1Gbit network ports! It's kind of crazy.

So what you end up with is a lot of people being excited their device is connecting at 1200Mbps or even much more, but they don't realize the access point has a SHARED 1Gbit connection to the actual network.

When I started moving critical connections on my network to 10Gbit I was amazed how few wifi access points even have 2.5Gbit ports.

My Wi-Fi 6 router has a 2.5Gbs port but I don’t think my cable modem can output at that speed.

 

[SBruv]

So just to be totally clear, the M1 MacBook Pro doesn't support 160MHz wifi 6, right? Mine's connecting to my Asus AX-58U (which definitely has 160MHz enabled) at 80Mhz and I can't find any way to change it on the Mac.

 

[maxsquared]

So just to be totally clear, the M1 MacBook Pro doesn't support 160MHz wifi 6, right? Mine's connecting to my Asus AX-58U (which definitely has 160MHz enabled) at 80Mhz and I can't find any way to change it on the Mac.

Someone posted earlier and it doesn’t.

 

[pingchp]

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Here's the speed i got from my network. MBP M1

 

[Zlostorkos]

My MBA connects with 1200mbits to a Huawei AX3 pro.

 

[malcky77]

I would love to know what tasks people do that require such large internet bandwidth (on a laptop).....other than bragging rights?

I have the base M1 MBA and it connects to my home wifi at 866Mbps....which is the maximum my home access points allow, yet my internet speed is only 350Meg down/36 Meg up....however my laptop or any laptop in this house does not need anywhere close to those speeds for day to day use anyway....they are just glorified surfing & streaming machines. lol.

This comment is NOT a dig at anyone.....I am just really curious as to what people do on their laptop that needs such internet speed?

 

[Supra Mac]

I would love to know what tasks people do that require such large internet bandwidth (on a laptop).....other than bragging rights?

I have the base M1 MBA and it connects to my home wifi at 866Mbps....which is the maximum my home access points allow, yet my internet speed is only 350Meg down/36 Meg up....however my laptop or any laptop in this house does not need anywhere close to those speeds for day to day use anyway....they are just glorified surfing & streaming machines. lol.

This comment is NOT a dig at anyone.....I am just really curious as to what people do on their laptop that needs such internet speed?

Good question. The internet is one aspect of home networking. Some people may have servers (file or media), time machine backups and other functions that could benefit from the increase speed and bandwidth for multiple users. Hope this helps.

 

[pingchp]

I would love to know what tasks people do that require such large internet bandwidth (on a laptop).....other than bragging rights?

I have the base M1 MBA and it connects to my home wifi at 866Mbps....which is the maximum my home access points allow, yet my internet speed is only 350Meg down/36 Meg up....however my laptop or any laptop in this house does not need anywhere close to those speeds for day to day use anyway....they are just glorified surfing & streaming machines. lol.

This comment is NOT a dig at anyone.....I am just really curious as to what people do on their laptop that needs such internet speed?

Backup file to NAS in LAN.
Edit photo/video from NAS.

 

[jpiszcz]

Has anyone run iperf or transferred a file via scp/ftp to and from an M1 macbook? Do you see sustained symmetrical speeds up and down when transferring files locally to a NAS? E.g., ~80-100 megabytes per second both UPLOAD and DOWNLOAD sustained?

With the 16" macbook pro, there were some serious issues:

2019 MacBook Pro 16" - slower Wi-Fi speed compared to 2015 MBP?

Agreed. I have tested multiple laptops with the same router (Synology RT1900AC) and they are able to achieve 70-90 megabytes per second. The MacBook Pro 16 for the short time I had it could not sustain downloads over 20 megabytes per second sustained.

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[pingchp]

Has anyone run iperf or transferred a file via scp/ftp to and from an M1 macbook? Do you see sustained symmetrical speeds up and down when transferring files locally to a NAS? E.g., ~80-100 megabytes per second both UPLOAD and DOWNLOAD sustained?

With the 16" macbook pro, there were some serious issues:

2019 MacBook Pro 16" - slower Wi-Fi speed compared to 2015 MBP?

Agreed. I have tested multiple laptops with the same router (Synology RT1900AC) and they are able to achieve 70-90 megabytes per second. The MacBook Pro 16 for the short time I had it could not sustain downloads over 20 megabytes per second sustained.

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WIFI has so many condition that affect directly to the speed. If you need consistent speed why don't just use wired LAN ?

 

[jpiszcz]

WIFI has so many condition that affect directly to the speed. If you need consistent speed why don't just use wired LAN ?

Absolutely agree with you; however, if you're using a laptop somewhat close to a good Wi-Fi router (my 2015 MBP is close) I get ~75 megabytes per second sustained upload and download.

The 2016 MBP had problems with one direction (uploads).

Once you get used to consistent and high data speeds via Wi-Fi then you no longer need to plug-in to wired LAN.

Totally agree for Wired LAN for desktops; however for a laptop most these days can do fairly well sustained > 70-75MiB/s each way, I am wondering if anyone on this forum has tested the performance of their M1 using iperf (via Wi-Fi) like dpetrov did in the above above (2019 MacBook Pro 16") to see if it has the same issue.

 

[EntropyQ3]

I would love to know what tasks people do that require such large internet bandwidth (on a laptop).....other than bragging rights?

I have the base M1 MBA and it connects to my home wifi at 866Mbps....which is the maximum my home access points allow, yet my internet speed is only 350Meg down/36 Meg up....however my laptop or any laptop in this house does not need anywhere close to those speeds for day to day use anyway....they are just glorified surfing & streaming machines. lol.

This comment is NOT a dig at anyone.....I am just really curious as to what people do on their laptop that needs such internet speed?

Requires?
Are you sure you are an Apple user? ;-)
It's about margins, smoothness, effortless utility, cloud based storage that performs like local (rust based) hard drives.
QOL, basically.

Privately I have 1Gb download and 1Gb up. Mostly I use it to load web ads really quickly. ?
Because even though I could rationalise fast WiFi with NAS access, in truth that is nowhere near as common at home.

 

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Here's the speed i got from my network. MBP M1
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I have never been able to get my 2021 M1 TX Rate to show anything above 700 on 5Ghz. I currently have an Asus Zenwifi XT12. I've tried a variety of routers out of curiosity what router are you using? Did you configure differently?