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JeffPerrin

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The G5 motherboard was known to have a glass jaw. An absolute nightmare for me! So many issues. When my 5,1 retires, it will joint the G5 and be made into furniture... or maybe I'll gut the G5 and turn it into a network storage case or something...

Fortunately, my 5,1 is still going strong and the best machine I've ever owned! Hoping the 2019 incarnation will similarly do the "Mac Pro" moniker justice!
 
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orph

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Dec 12, 2005
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MY hack will be in my G5 dual 1.8ghz (i got from uni back in 2008, did well for me for a few years) or my 3.1 50/50 as the G5 has cool factor

but i do also want to get the G5 chip's and make a pimp chain from them for fights with apple fans
"i see you have a iphone, my G5 cpu wins"

i joke

ps they do live on, they get used by people learning to code for power computers with linux
https://forum.level1techs.com/t/the-power-and-powerpc-general-discussion-news-thread/122515/3
some topics on that forum about it
 
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jsclipse

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Dec 10, 2018
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I found a silver tower computer shimmering in the sunlight at my local recycling center. I approached the object casually as to not bring any attention to what I was going to do. I bent down and looked at it. There was no mistaking at what I was looking at--a bonafide mac tower discarded like any old PC.... A sticker on the top handle read, "Ok." Is it "Ok?" I quickly checked its guts, which is easily done by flipping up the latch on the rear. Everything seemed to be in place... a GPU, there were even RAM sticks, and then a giant embossed sign reading, “G5” behind an acrylic shroud. I remembering feeling slightly disappointed because of the infamy of the G5 Powermacs and that if it is, indeed, garbage and non-working, I wouldn't be able to part the parts for my own working Mac Pro 5,1 at home. At the same time, I was thrilled because as infamous as the G5 was, it was also famous for being infamous, if you know what I mean. In fact, the last time I saw a Powermac G5 was when I was a lot younger than I man now, 18 years younger, in fact, in 2005 when I worked for a reality-TV production company as a production assistant. And, as everyone knows, the bread and butter of reality-TV shows is to make fame mundane. Or, make the mundane seem famous. Anyway, a Powermac G5 showed up in the office one day and a couple IT guys were working on the machine. I remember it because there was only one at the time. They must have been testing it on whether they can use it for Avid since that was the company's NLE of choice at the time. Months later, and as the company moved to a bigger office, every editing suite had one of these silver cheesegrater-looking towers.

But, here it was... 18 years later and that same Powermac G5 is now being thrown out for any brave soul to take. But, should I even bother? It's 2018... and I already have a Mac Pro 5,1. And, I know--having a Powerbook G4 that I would be limited to an antiquated version of OS X (OSX Leopard, to be precise). But, the nostalgia... the nostalgia got to me and the spirit of something "great" and "different" got to me. And, it did get me... the different part thing got me because I couldn't power the thing on when I got home with the spare power cord parts I had laying around.

It turns out that what I salvaged was a late 2005 Powermac DC 2ghz G5 with an Nvidia 6600 LE GPU and it uses a C19 power cord. A cord that is different than any power cords I had laying around. It's so different that finding it is a bish! The only place I could find one was 2 hours away at my not so local Micro Center for $34!!!!

So, I went online to find a cord that was at a more reasonable price. It is on its way. And, the price was still unreasonably pricey. But, it is what it is. I don't even know if the computer works.... But, if it does work, what do you guys do with your Powermac G5?

There isn’t even a forum for Powermac G5 on this forum. So, will this post be deleted for even talking about the Powermac G5 in a Mac Pro section?

I still have the G5 dual core Late 2005 edition. I really love the modern aesthetic. The OS is still quick and responsive. I have a dual boot system with Debian Linux for PPC. Debian is the 2nd best OS for this PC. Recently, I've seen many Hackintosh systems online and think why not just upgrade the interior. It still works "as is" for light browsing. It still works "as is" for encoding / decoding / viewing MP4 videos. I can't bare to part with it. I can't use it daily. I suppose it's just my Rolls-Royce that gets a spin once a year.
-jsc
 

orph

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Dec 12, 2005
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there a piece of art, maybe one day the xbox dev software will get out and we can have the coolest xbox's

the G5's where used as the xbox 360 dev kits by Microsoft

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox-360-dev-kits-pictures.44177/
photos
N6PF1.jpg

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/supposed-xbox-720-durango-kinect-2-xdk-image-from-dae.486290/page-2
 
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SELLERTHINK

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Dec 27, 2018
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My G5 dual core is still alive and kicking.
I have it sitting next to my video setup and just updated the Ram for the first time.
It has all the video, audio, and graphics software on it I need. It would take mega money to upgrade all the software for a modern Macpro.

I also have a G4 Mac Mini next to it, used for showing dialog promoting on monitor during filming to the talent. It's the most quiet computer probably ever made, perfect for use near a live microphone.

But the G5, is pretty quiet also, except when it's working. Then it's a tornado.

But I am looking at moving up to a first or second generation Mac Pro, for speed and the ability to keep the Rosetta bad apps.

The G5's fetch about the same price online as a quad Mac Pro 1.1, because the G5 can run system 9.1 which Logic Protools audio software is easily available, and many musicians need them.
[doublepost=1545909503][/doublepost]I love that the G5 has a modern Web browser TenFourFox.
Who ever thought I could surf the Web on my G5 again.
 
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AshleyPomeroy

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Dec 27, 2018
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I have a G5. It's a first-generation 2ghz dual-processor model, "the world's fastest, most powerful personal computer" in the words of Apple's television advert:

I bought it mostly for nostalgia, also because of the looks, and because I might repurpose the case as a garden shed at some point, also semi-seriously as a music machine. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it runs TenFourFox. Lightweight websites are perfectly acceptable and most newspapers are readable if you use Bluhell firewall and NoScript. It's useless for anything involving Google's services though. Why the heck does GMail require a supercomputer?

This is mine. It's air-cooled, still clean, the fans still run, one of the feet is bent slightly, in the photo the metal looks dusty but it's actually tarnish:
dzmdDhT.jpg


It has an awesome physical presence. Eighteen years later the case hasn't dated at all. If it breaks I can just put a Mac Mini inside it and use the G5 as a monster exoskeleton. Do the motherboards need to be recapped? I remember that there was a plague of bad capacitors at around the same time that the G5 was current.

I find it fascinating that the G5 was launched a few months after Intel released the Pentium M. Intel successfully developed the Pentium M into the Core Duo, whereas IBM seemed to hit a brick wall with the G5 until the dual-core models right at the very end of the range. Looking at Everymac's list of Power Macintosh G5s, the range didn't progress very much beyond the first generation - the second wave were more power efficient, but it wasn't until the end of the line that there were real performance gains. I also find it fascinating that Apple switched to 64-bit computing with the G5, then back to 32-bit with the Core Duo, then back to 64-bit with the Core II Duo. I didn't upgrade my PC into a 64-bit configuration until the Windows 7 era six years later.

I mention music. My G5 came with a Mark of the Unicorn PCI-X 424 interface card. The card connects to a range of MOTU audio interfaces, which are now available second-hand for very little money. A MOTU 2048 will record eight analogue tracks of 24-bit audio at 96khz plus a bunch of digital tracks via SPDIF, so purely as a big and power-inefficient audio recorder a G5 connected up to four of these interfaces still has some practical use. I imagine that some musicians and studios kept theirs for years because the PCI-X interface cards were unique to the G5 and perhaps they were loaded with AU plugins and massive sample libraries and so on, and migrating them to a Mac Pro / Mac Mini would have been arduous.

I went to the trouble of measuring my G5's power consumption - it eats 140w just idling on the desktop doing nothing. A bit of googling reveals that the 140w figure seems to be commonplace, which suggests that my power meter is accurate. Under any kind of load it shoots up to anything from 250-450w. Even turned off it still draws about 5w.

Mine runs Leopard. I tried Debian but it didn't seem to use the graphics card so it ran dog-slow and was very buggy, and what's the point? Debian doesn't have Logic Pro.
 

Macbookprodude

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The G5 motherboard was known to have a glass jaw. An absolute nightmare for me! So many issues. When my 5,1 retires, it will joint the G5 and be made into furniture... or maybe I'll gut the G5 and turn it into a network storage case or something...

Fortunately, my 5,1 is still going strong and the best machine I've ever owned! Hoping the 2019 incarnation will similarly do the "Mac Pro" moniker justice!

Fortunately, my 5,1 is still going strong and the best machine I've ever owned! Hoping the 2019 incarnation will similarly do the "Mac Pro" moniker justice - Don't bet on it because Apple today is a company which does not encourage upgrading older systems. For instance, the 2006-2012 Mac Pros are the last upgradable macs.. I highly doubt the new 2019 if it comes out will be so easy to upgrade.
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The G5's fetch about the same price online as a quad Mac Pro 1.1, because the G5 can run system 9.1 which Logic Protools audio software is easily available, and many musicians need them.

What do you mean 9.1 - OS 9 ? or Logic Protools 9.1 ?
 

oozarus

macrumors newbie
Mar 6, 2019
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UHM YES i have a powerpc g5 2 x 2ghz of 3gb de ram i still blurays disc movie with roxio hhahah
 

AshleyPomeroy

macrumors member
Dec 27, 2018
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England
My G5 came with a Mark of the Unicorn PCI-X 424 audio interface. The PCI card connects to a range of MOTU audio interfaces, which are now available second-hand for very little money. A MOTU 2048 will record eight analogue tracks of 24-bit audio at 96khz plus a bunch of digital tracks via SPDIF, so purely as a big and power-inefficient audio recorder a G5 connected up to four of these interfaces still has some practical use.

As a follow-up to this I did eventually pick up a second-hand Mark of the Unicorn 2408 audio interface unit. It's a rackmount box that connects to a PCI-X card in the computer with "audiowire" (basically Firewire). It has eight balanced audio inputs and outputs, plus digital I/O. It dates from the days when USB wasn't good enough for audio interfaces.

Surprisingly it works! MOTU still has PowerPC drivers etc for the unit. It also works in my modern Windows PC (the PCI-X card fits in my motherboard's PCI slot) so I assume it would also work in an Intel Mac Pro.

In this short video shot earlier this very year you can't see the G5 - it's underneath the table - but it's sending sync pulses to the drum machines, and everything is being recorded through the MOTU 2408 into Logic Express, which is basically being used as a mixing desk:

The MOTU 2408 is the device with the VU meters. I'm recording the output with a MacBook Pro (I could probably have recorded it with Logic on the G5, but I didn't want to risk it). Purely for audio effects and mixing the G5 is sufficient, and furthermore I've arranged it so that the fans warm up my legs, which is a win-win in my book.
 
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Maclntosh

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Dec 15, 2020
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Oh hell yeah there is! ME for example; using it right now to write this response! :D
I shoot for weddings across NY and sometimes sell photos to the NYTimes now and then. The machine I use daily for video editing (final cut pro) and photo shop (adobe), are all done on this 2005 Power Macintosh G5 ?
For those who care ;) it's a M9747 with two G5 PowerPC processors, that are also dual-cored, running at 2000 MHz (2.0 GHz) and rocketed even higher with the 128-bit vector processing unit--Velocity Engine. ?️.... . . .

Recently, there has been a resurgence for the interest in PowerPC's. Why? I don't know. I sell computers as a side-hustle on eBay and the G5 in particular have been selling like hot cakes! Personally, I believe the new Mac Pro has caught the eyes of many late millennials and early iGen-ers, who can't afford the brand new machines and therefore searching for older models.
 

MarkC426

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May 14, 2008
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I am an owner of a dual core G5, but it has sat under desk for 10 years.
Keep meaning to fire it up for old times sake.
 
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kasuja00

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Jun 3, 2018
101
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Hi,
my great Powermac G5 (dual 1.8Ghz) after 17 years of honored career has stopped working, and now it makes three beeps on startup. I use it daily for Video recordings from Vhs Tape with Eyetv
 

macguru9999

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Aug 9, 2006
817
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I have a dual 2ghz G5 with 3gb ram and I recently put an ssd in as the boot drive. Its running osx 10.4.x tiger. I only boot it a few times a year, I dont get much call for testing PPC software these days
 

BornAgainMac

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Feb 4, 2004
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Had the original Powermac G5 that was fully loaded to the max including a 30 inch Cinema Display, 2 G5s at 2 Ghz, 8 GB ram, Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra. I would have kept mine if the Mac mini wasn't 4x faster with encoding video. Also I saved about $40 dollars a month on my home electric bill after selling my Powermac G5.

Anyone ever hear the 9 fans when they go at full speed? It sounds like a Jet is flying over the house. The MacBook Pro is silent in comparison.
 

ZombiePhysicist

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I guess it depends on what you mean by better.

Leopard added a bunch of features, but was not very stable. Tiger was very stable and fast, but did not have the new features that Leopard had.

I think Tiger was probably the second most stable OSX version. It was second to Snow Leopard, which has the features of leopard and better stability than Tiger, but didn't have PPC support.
Didn't Tiger maintain OS9 emulation though and I think 10.5 did away with them, or was that snow leopard? I loved the ability to run OS9 stuff, wish they kept that.
 

VanneDC

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Jun 5, 2010
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Also still have my 2.3DC.. that thing rocks. I also have a 2.7 DP, but i havent booted that in yonks and its in its box for the last 10 years or so..
 

MrVitalic

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Also still have my 2.3DC.. that thing rocks. I also have a 2.7 DP, but i havent booted that in yonks and its in its box for the last 10 years or so..
You should check your dp 2.7 for leak but I'm sure you already know that.

For my part, yes I still use my dp 2.5. My quad is dormant because I would need additional hardware to use it as my main G5 (protools cards in the pcie flavor)
 

Macbookprodude

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No one uses G5 that much anymore.. I stopped 2 years ago - simply lost interest in it - I am willing to sell it. Its a Quad G5 with the stable reliable LCS.
 
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