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Are we really close to a GM?
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Pretty soon, iPhones will ship with basic functionality.. An operating system with the bare essentials.. And then once you get home or on wifi.. The rest of the OS will download to unlock everything else
Slowed it down how exactly? Stuttering, slow animations?Hope todays beta isnt the GM. Seems they have slowed it down some from the way things have been working.Oh and the invisible button still is invisible in the music app.
You are nuts if you think that's ever going to happen, because some people still have rather slow internet speeds like us. We only get 1.7 MB down and 0.30 MB up. Trying to use a phone that functions like that, we would be sitting around for hours waiting for all of our stuff to load. Having GB updates for games and console updates on my XBOX One really takes away from the experience because I have to wait so long for updates to get online with my friends and play games.
Hope todays beta isnt the GM. Seems they have slowed it down some from the way things have been working.
If you actually had the developers account and read the change log, you would know that there's still a lot of issues and bugs that need to be fixed.
And there's still plenty of iOS 10 features for them to enable. Like People face syncing (as it states that it's not enabled for this beta), and Discovery Mix/other mixes for Apple Music.
The notification center looks like it was drawn on paper, then turned into html for a demo, and finally put into the OS for a live demo. And that's what it feels like to me, a vista experience. I can't enjoy it, everything is two clicks or swipes at least now. So frustrating .. oh look a quick notification, with 500% whitespace, and then an action is needed to figure out if there are options. And oh, some are swipe or pull down, others are horizontal actions. And their actions are a temporary step .. look at this thing, .. instead of full app, we then get a mini full app and interact with it. But clicking outside of it does not make it go away, and then you have a tiny space between keyboard and window if any.. or find the light grey x somewhere on the screen.. And then it suddenly unlocks .. etc.
It's so clunky, like .. how I would make it saying "i wish apple would make this" and then they impress me making it awesome. But they didnt' make it awesome. It's quite intrusive during media playback, or middle of the night where all that light grey backgrounds are lighting up the whole room.
I dont know what they were thinking, but i am not a fan, and i am a huge fan of the notifications and the out of an app interaction of stuff (like 3d touch etc).
I was hoping it would suddenly get a nifty update, but beta 7 - still the same. I no longer use the swipe left center thingy, notifications, or control center. It is just as fast, if not faster, to in-app interact with new data by just looking for the red (1). Again, such a vista experience.
So, close to GM? Yes.. but i wish it wasn't. This felt like internship work. In my experience, in my opinion. I am sure others love the extra actions, taps, and swipes, and wasting time. I dont.
It's so clunky, like .. how I would make it saying "i wish apple would make this" and then they impress me making it awesome. But they didnt' make it awesome. It's quite intrusive during media playback, or middle of the night where all that light grey backgrounds are lighting up the whole room.
I dont know what they were thinking, but i am not a fan, and i am a huge fan of the notifications and the out of an app interaction of stuff (like 3d touch etc).
I was hoping it would suddenly get a nifty update, but beta 7 - still the same. I no longer use the swipe left center thingy, notifications, or control center. It is just as fast, if not faster, to in-app interact with new data by just looking for the red (1). Again, such a vista experience.
So, close to GM? Yes.. but i wish it wasn't. This felt like internship work. In my experience, in my opinion. I am sure others love the extra actions, taps, and swipes, and wasting time. I dont.
Exactly my point. Seems this one went a bit backwards from B7 so certainly NOT the GM. The change log seems to be the same for the past 3 betas or so. So either they aren't making progress or just aren't updating the change log. I think its the latter. And I can tell if something isn't working without reading a change log BTW.
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How is it any different than before? Notification center is almost identical. The swipes/taps are exactly the same.
Slower animations. As example as opening a group and the title is delayed appearing. And press the home button to close an app and there is an obvious delay from when its pressed until it responds. More info regarding this in the beta 8 changes and fixes thread.
The iOS 9 notifications and interactions, actions, and behavior is quite different on visuals as well as usage on my iPad Air 2 with iOS 10 latest public beta.
iOS 9 doesn't show [view|clear]
iOS 10 does, and then shows mini-app display or jumps into the app,
iOS 9 does a direct action, without needing the app to open, without the first step.
The iOS 9 didn't wake me up by lighting up my room..
In iOS 10 each individual msg is in a lighter box and covers left half of the screen of the iPad, waking me up by lighting up my room.
etc etc.
I'm truly not understanding. On iOS 9, in notification center, you can tap the notification to bring you to the app, or you can swipe, which gives you a little 'x' to clear. In iOS 10 you can tap to open the app or swipe and tap 'clear'. Exactly the same. Either one tap or one swipe depending on what you would like to do.
I don't know what you are referring to as "iOS 9 does a direct action".
On iOS 9 when you would receive a message on the lock screen, it would take up the entire center of the screen, instead of just half of the screen on the iPad. Both iOS 9 and iOS 10 light up the screen. That hasn't changed.
It's quite possible that the Home button "delay" was introduced by them adding/changing code for the Home button for the new 3D Touch/non physical button on the iPhone 7. It could very well just be "in this build" temporary setback and will get tightened up in the next build (likely GM)
Yep thats what I am hoping. Its not unusual to see things disappear or change from beta to beta. But a little odd being this close to the release. (well as far as we know
)Yep thats what I am hoping. Its not unusual to see things disappear or change from beta to beta. But a little odd being this close to the release. (well as far as we know
What is this home button delay thing? I have PB7 on my iPhone and iPad and I don't notice anything out of the ordinary. Maybe it's different on iPhone 6s or 6s+?
Well it could be 3D devices only. Basically open an app and then press home button to close it. There is a delay from when you press the button and the app actually responds and closes. Not like its a huge delay but certainly noticeable and different from previous builds. Previously the app would close immediately with the button press. Odd thing is if you open an app then immediately close it there is no delay. (like you are stopping it from loading almost) But once its opened it changes.
the invites MUST be send this week, if it'll be held on 7th september,and for a possible GM release at that date..
I have an iPad mini 4 and an iPhone 6 and I don't notice any more delay than previous betas. I press the home button, but the device doesn't know if I'm gonna double tap it, so it waits for a second tap, but if nothing comes, it goes home.
It has been that way for a long time. Again, I don't see or feel a difference from the previous beta.
I think the whole point of it is that notifications are bright and in a white box now whereas in iOS 9 it was dark. iOS 10 is just begging for a dark theme and was painfully obvious the minute I saw the first slide on stage. I'm hoping it will be a surprise next month or come in 10.1.
I will say that between the new notification bubbles and widgets and control center screens, iOS does seem to feel a bit more "broken up looking" with more swipes and taps to do things. I think some of this is just change for changes sake. Otherwise I'm looking forward to a few new features and apps. But the notification and widget "look" is a step backwards.
Um, you either have a difficult time figuring something out that literally still works the same way as iOS 9, or I just figured it very quickly, because 10 works just like 9 did in many ways, it just looks different.
Notifications: When one pops up, pull down on it, JUST LIKE IOS 9 and you will see more of the message and options to do with it, if there are any.
Notification Center: When you open it, it shows notifications in chronological order just like 9 did by default, on everyday, it shows an X to clear that day's notifications. If you are on a 6S, you can 3D touch on any clear button to clear all. The notification center literally works the same way as 9's did, its just redesigned with a universal search bar, which is a nice touch.
Lock Screen: At first, yes it is a little confusing, but once you figure it out, its quite nice.
Control Center: New pages for main, Music, and Homekit (if you use it).
Music: Layout is the same garbage as it was on 8.4, and still isn't that nice to use. (Where in the hell is cover flow?! Ugh) Apple Music is one of the most BS things I've seen in iOS in quite some time.
Dude iOS 10 really only redesigns the things in iOS 9 and adds a few extras to it. speaking that 10 can do what 9 can do, and more? It's no comparison, 10 is defiantly the dominant one.
There are a lot of changes in this version, that look quite nice to me, that actually make the operating system feel like its alive. iOS 9 was so slow, glitchy, buggy, laggy, and plain, that I was tired of it as soon as I made the jump from iOS 6 from my 4S to 6S. I stayed on 9.2 for the longest time waiting for a jail-break, but when 10 beta rolled around, I updated to it immediately, because I was so ready to get away from the cancer that is iOS 9.
Off topic but, I don't really understand why you are saying "Vista experience" speaking that Vista had everything XP had, with redesigns, and new functionality. People had issues with it, because Vista didn't work well with the old legacy hardware and software people used. If you used it on new top of the line hardware, Vista would fly, and it still does. It was just ahead of its time and its ability didn't quite line up with its requirements. We ran it from day one with high specs and never had a single issue with it. I still use it as my main Windows OS, when I'm not using our Mac.
Sorry that I have a terrible time finding the proper words for something that is a swipe away for me. If I didn't have these deadlines this week I'd spend some times making a youtube video or something to demonstrate what I mean. Please do note I am being nitpicky about a specific little thing that currently bothers me while testing it. Not the whole iOS10 experience. I enjoy reading back the comments to get a bit more insight. I also start to believe some settings about what is showing or not on pin-locked screens might be changing the 'experience', I might have to double check tomorrow when I have time to see if something I didn't set, got set. Secondly, the Vista experience is the visual design of the notifications on my iPad, I switched back to iOS9 as a test, and they clearly are visually styled differently.
Ditto on the sluggish keyboard. It's been pretty bad on my iPhone 6, considerably better on my iPad Air 2, but not great. I've submitted several feedback tickets on the problem and actually got a response from someone at Apple looking for more details on the issue. Hopefully that means some fixes are in the works, maybe not in time for GM but shortly after.