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ARM MAC = new Windows Vista machines in 2025

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This is the first and only platform where I have seen how a machine with 32GB RAM doing very basic super easy workflows that you can do on a 15 years old computer without any problem, is flooding my memory and filling up all my remaining free disk space, forcing me restart the machine.

And it's Apple their own background processes that are hogging up my memory, not 3rd party apps. I checked what one of these "Apple apps" is doing, and one of these stupid ass apps is basically scanning my entire computer constantly for "media". Did I ask Apple to do this?

ARM Mac's are the new Windows Vista machines basically.
 
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leman said:
You've been complaining about Macs and macOS on these boards for what, over there years now? How come you still use the system if it sucks so much? Maybe it's time to give it a rest, don't you think?
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Why would I throw away a $4000 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro? That's alot of money.

In any case, my next computer will be a PC with the RTX 5090 once those Black Friday discounts kicks in.
 
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Zest28 said:
ARM Mac's are the new Windows Vista machines basically. I can't believe I have to resort to cloud computing due to how inefficient Mac OS has become in 2025.
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If you're unhappy with the OS, then definitely, switch over to windows. You'll have to put up with MS spying on you, recording your actions, and giving you ads in the OS.

I recently switched back to Mac from Windows, I never fully abanonded the Mac platform, but it wasn't my full time device. Now it is, and I can tell you from my experience, macOS has a lot more to offer, and is far better for the consumer. The old adage, it just works.

Please provide some details on why you think macOS is Apple's Vista?

btw, after it was released, vista turned out to be a solid OS, and it was the basis for windows 7, Microsoft's wildly popular OS. So it wasn't all bad, just perception
 
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If you're unhappy with the OS, then definitely, switch over to windows. You'll have to put up with MS spying on you, recording your actions, and giving you ads in the OS.

I recently switched back to Mac from Windows, I never fully abanonded the Mac platform, but it wasn't my full time device. Now it is, and I can tell you from my experience, macOS has a lot more to offer, and is far better for the consumer. The old adage, it just works.

Please provide some details on why you think macOS is Apple's Vista?

btw, after it was released, vista turned out to be a solid OS, and it was the basis for windows 7, Microsoft's wildly popular OS. So it wasn't all bad, just perception
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I'm not going to switch to Windows. I will be running Linux and Windows, just like what I did in the past before I went Mac. And I still have a M2 MacBook Air and M1 Max MacBook Pro, so I still have access to Mac OS. But I see no point buying a new Mac when Mac OS is so horribly inefficient.

Well, Windows Vista was a mess, just like the current Mac OS, that I'm even running out of memory on a M1 Max MacBook Pro with 32GB RAM.
 
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Zest28 said:
Well, Windows Vista was a mess, just like the current Mac OS, that I'm even running out of memory on a M1 Max MacBook Pro with 32GB RAM.
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You're comparing macOS with visita, why is macOS a mess?

What apps are you using? I have 36GB of ram, with firefox with a crap-ton of tabs open, crossover, fallout 76, excel, photos, open and I still have plenty of ram.

Other then your dissatification with memory management, what else are you dissatisfied with macOS?
 
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You're comparing macOS with visita, why is macOS a mess?

What apps are you using? I have 36GB of ram, with firefox with a crap-ton of tabs open, crossover, fallout 76, excel, photos, open and I still have plenty of ram.

Other then your dissatification with memory management, what else are you dissatisfied with macOS?
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Mac OS is a mess because I can start a VM and do the same thing in Linux on a virtual machine with 4GB RAM no problem.

You see no problem that Apple is actually spying on me, by checking the media I have on my computer and is consuming an insane amounts of RAM with this background process?

Ah wait, i forgot that I am on MacRumors. Apple can do no wrong here. If Apple adds all this bloat in Mac OS, including spying on it's users, it is a good thing around here.
 
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Zest28 said:
Mac OS is a mess because I can start a VM and do the same thing in Linux on a virtual machine with 4GB RAM no problem.
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What mess? Give me details?

I've always said use the best tool for the job. If you hate the mac, sell it, and buy a linux machine. You're wasting too much energy and time, just posting how bad it is, on an apple fan site.
 
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What mess? Give me details?

I've always said use the best tool for the job. If you hate the mac, sell it, and buy a linux machine. You're wasting too much energy and time, just posting how bad it is, on an apple fan site.
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Literally nothing, as I'm running stuff in the cloud.

I loose too much value selling it, I will keep it and buy a PC with a RTX 5090 during Black Friday as I already mentioned.

I can still use the 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro as a travel computer in any case.
 
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maflynn said:
Ok, so this is just a thread to complain without any substance - I'm out.

Good luck on your next purchase.
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What you mean any substance? 32GB should not be an issue if pretty much all the computing is done in the cloud.

In the meantime, i see background process by Apple themselves eating 8GB of RAM, which is scanning media files I have on my computer.

And yes, I complain about Apple with this unnecessary bloat, which includes spying on me. 32GB RAM of RAM should be more than enough when using cloud computing.
 
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Zest28 said:
This is the first and only platform where I have seen how a machine with 32GB RAM doing very basic super easy workflows that you can do on a 15 years old computer without any problem, is flooding my memory and filling up all my remaining free disk space, forcing me restart the machine.

And it's Apple their own background processes that are hogging up my memory, not 3rd party apps. I checked what one of these "Apple apps" is doing, and one of these stupid ass apps is basically scanning my entire computer constantly for "media". Did I ask Apple to do this?

ARM Mac's are the new Windows Vista machines basically. I can't believe I have to resort to cloud computing due to how inefficient Mac OS has become in 2025.
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If you bought a high-end machine for "very basic super easy workflows" then you made a very poor purchase decision. Should have bought an M1 MacBook Air by the sounds of things.

I have an M2 Pro 14" and have no issues with "bloat" or "scanning". It's by far the best machine I've ever had, and I have (by the sounds of things) far more demanding workflows including docker containers.

Maybe provide some evidence - let's see these suspect processes and memory footprint.
 
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Ironically Windows Vista runs like butter on modern hardware. Its issue was it was too advanced for the XP generation of machines. The minimum specs were far too low. This is entirely Microsoft's fault for low-balling it in the first place.

I can't help but wonder what the poor GPUs in older Apple hardware are going to do when OS26 goes green.
 
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Zest28 said:
What you mean any substance? 32GB should not be an issue if pretty much all the computing is done in the cloud.

In the meantime, i see background process by Apple themselves eating 8GB of RAM, which is scanning media files I have on my computer.

And yes, I complain about Apple with this unnecessary bloat, which includes spying on me. 32GB RAM of RAM should be more than enough when using cloud computing.
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I'll preface my remarks by saying that it is not my intention to invalidate your first-hand experiences with your Mac OS devices. But I'll share mine in the hopes that maybe something will offer some insight as to why your experiences are as they are.

I only buy entry-level configurations when they are on sale. iPads, iPhones, Mac Mini, Macbook Air, etc. IMO, they offer the best value in tech.

On my M2 Mac Mini (8GB RAM, 256GB storage) I can render HD video, work on large image files, rework audio files, and via UTM run virtual machines including Windows 11 guests... all without stressing the hardware. I like to say, "it handles all this without breaking a sweat".

I have a 2TB external SSD where my files reside. I have an external 7TB compact HDD that holds my Plex library. (This Mac Mini serves as my Plex Server as well as serving up my 5 Tunarr streaming channels)

The internal 256GB drive has 168GB free. I keep the system trim and fit by keeping only those apps that I use (but that list is long). Contrary to what the cool kids advise, I use CleanMyMac X to perform regular maintenance.

It is running Mac OS Ventura 13.7.4 (22H420). I plan on keeping it on Ventura for as long as possible. I toyed with the idea of creating a walkthru video of my system for those who want to get the most out of entry-level Apple devices. 😂
 
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Junk in, junk out. Substance means going into detail. What exactly are you doing. What software exactly are you using. Post a screenshot of your Activity Monitor. macOS processes gobble up less than 4.00 GB (3.46 to be exact) of memory on my M4 Max.
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You guys are really missing the point here. This is not user error from my side. Cloud computing has minimal impact on a local computer.

This is about Apple having silly ass background processes like "mediaanalysisd" that was eating at some point 8GB RAM.
 
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I only buy entry-level configurations when they are on sale. iPads, iPhones, Mac Mini, Macbook Air, etc. IMO, they offer the best value in tech.
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My exact buying philosophy for Apple products. And while my workflow isn't necessarily robust, I find these devices do an excellent job and are, as you stated, the best value in tech.

To address the OP's point in the context of base-level Apple device use, I've never had any background processes eat up system resources to the point of crippling my workflow. They remain invisible to me, as background processes should.
 
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TechRunner said:
My exact buying philosophy for Apple products. And while my workflow isn't necessarily robust, I find these devices do an excellent job and are, as you stated, the best value in tech.

To address the OP's point in the context of base-level Apple device use, I've never had any background processes eat up system resources to the point of crippling my workflow. They remain invisible to me, as background processes should.
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From what I read, these particular background process are triggered when the computer is idle. Since with cloud computing, everything happens in a datacenter somewhere, I guess that is why these processes are being triggered.

It doesn't happen all the time, it can go fine for weeks, but like today, I get "free space warnings" and when I check my memory usage, there it is again.
 
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