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tbayrgs

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My thoughts are that to accuse Asus of copying Apple because of watch sizes is to choose to then totally ignore every single watch that's ever been sold if a plethora of different sizes before Steve Jobs was even born, let alone the launch of the Apple 'watch', and to ignore the fact Apple completely copied the whole different size idea from the existing watch market! Its a ludicrous and ridiculous desperate assumption your trying to make here!

Apple did not invent the watch, or the smart watch, or the watch or smart watch market.

If you lot are going to be ridiculous enough to make this absurd statement, then Apple has absolutely no right in using the word 'watch' in the name if its device.

Bud, learn to read. I acknowledged Apple didn't invent multiple watch sizes. But as everyone here is so quick to point out, Apple wasn't first to the smartphone game, by a long shot, yet only when they introduce something that my be different (i.e. multiple watch sizes in the SMART WATCH market--there, spelled it out for you so wouldn't miss it ;)), all of a sudden another OEM very quickly adopts a change that just by coincidence mimics what Apple did. How come we didn't see all of this from the oodles of Android Wear and other OEMs over the past year prior to the Apple Watch release? If it seems so obvious, why no do it out of the gate?

Asus didn't offer multiple sizes with their first release (before the Apple Watch) and used a charging dock. Now, first release immediately after the Apple Watch, they offer two sizes, remarkably close in size and the very same 4mm difference, and ditch the dock for a magnetic cable that just snaps onto the back. Didn't offer a rose gold color option but now they have one. Maybe this was their plan all along, but it sure makes for a convenient coincidence. :rolleyes:

Are you saying that Apple copied Pebble with the magnetic charger? Or that only applies to other companies that are not Apple.

Nope, but it's funny how they changed direction on their first release right after the Apple Watch.

As quick as the Apple zealots are to jump behind Apple, an awful lot of you here will just a quickly jump on the 'defend anything non-Apple' bandwagon, and it's pretty easy to predict who'll be the first to come to their defense.

And again, I don't care if they copy--I'm not one who'll boycott a company simply because an element of their product may resemble what someone else already brought to the table. Who cares, I just want the best possible product to fit my needs. But the inability of members here on both sides of the Apple fence to acknowledge something when it's so obvious is hilarious. The Apple hate is just as strong as the Apple devotion around here sometimes.
 

tbayrgs

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I find it nice enough looking, good proportions...except for the gigantic bezels. Sorry, those ruin everything else about the watch. I can't believe anyone at Asus looked at that design and thought that looked event remotely decent.
 
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tbayrgs

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To not care you have been quick to accuse of blatantly copying.

I would hope you could understand that these two can be mutually exclusive.

Pot met kettle?

Yes, let's go back and review both your and my post history and see who's more one-sided. You have a post history near universally either defending Apple's opponents (primarily Google) or criticizing Apple and/or it's defenders...all on an Apple-centric site and forums. I don't hide my preference for much of Apple's products but I can also just as quickly (and have in the past) criticize them when I think they drop the ball.

What Apple hate?

See above. Why does someone only post generally against Apple on an Apple focused site? It's certainly a free internet but it also doesn't change the obvious.
 

tbayrgs

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Hate now means "disagree with" or "not agree with" or even "not dislike the opposition". Or at least it seems to around here. Hate is such an overused word. :\

Of course I'm not claiming disagreement equates to hate but when certain members ONLY post in opposition to Apple or ONLY disagree with Apple's positions or ONLY favor Apple's opposition, seems pretty apparent they have an axe to grind.
 

apolloa

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Bud, learn to read. I acknowledged Apple didn't invent multiple watch sizes. But as everyone here is so quick to point out, Apple wasn't first to the smartphone game, by a long shot, yet only when they introduce something that my be different (i.e. multiple watch sizes in the SMART WATCH market--there, spelled it out for you so wouldn't miss it ;)), all of a sudden another OEM very quickly adopts a change that just by coincidence mimics what Apple did. How come we didn't see all of this from the oodles of Android Wear and other OEMs over the past year prior to the Apple Watch release? If it seems so obvious, why no do it out of the gate?

Asus didn't offer multiple sizes with their first release (before the Apple Watch) and used a charging dock. Now, first release immediately after the Apple Watch, they offer two sizes, remarkably close in size and the very same 4mm difference, and ditch the dock for a magnetic cable that just snaps onto the back. Didn't offer a rose gold color option but now they have one. Maybe this was their plan all along, but it sure makes for a convenient coincidence. :rolleyes:

Ok, firstly Apple has copied every single watch material and colour for the case and strap including in gold or gold colour before the Apple watch, because that is the ideology you have used here. And that is an awful lot of watches but you have 'chosen' to selectively accuse Asus of 'only' copying Apple's watch material and colour :rolleyes:

Secondly the magnetic clip is not like Apple's at all, It is a base station almost the same size as the back of the watch, and it uses contact to charge and not inductive charging. It uses the same method of charging as every other Android Wear watch does, even the first Pebble watch. You are trying to read something from nothing.

And thirdly, my previous post still stands in regards to watch sizes.

You are the one with the hate, because you have as I said decided to totally ignore every single watch device, smart or normal, that exists or has existed before and instead have 'chosen' to accuse Asus of copying only Apple.

Fine, as I said Apple has copied everyone else in that case.

Pot Kettle Black indeed.

See above. Why does someone only post generally against Apple on an Apple focused site? It's certainly a free internet but it also doesn't change the obvious.

Before you make incorrect generalisation opinions of people, perhaps you should go and review their post history first.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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The bezel comments on the link are hilarious, and sadly true. Shame on ASUS, they design great laptops, which I'm typing this comment from now. Why screw up the smartwatch?
 

dec.

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Well obviously the trend is going towards making Smart Watches in two sizes. Natural evolution.
 

MasterRyu2011

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I gotta say. I really don't know much about screen technology or implementation, but most of Apple's iPhones and the Apple Watch hide the bezels really well. Firstly, when the screen is off on the iPhone or Apple Watch, you can't tell when the bezel ends and the screen starts. The screen is almost as dark as the bezel. When the Apple Watch screen is on, the bezels really blend into the whole watch face due to the way Apple designs the UI (lots of black and darkness).
 

spinedoc77

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The first Asus smartwatch was nice, clean, simple and elegant. I was hoping for more of the same. Not this. Feels like Asus tried to copy the Apple Watch... and failed.



Link to article in full on Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-selfie-and-new-zenpad-tablets-in-four-sizes/

nexus2cee_ASUS-ZenWatch-2-WI502Q_Silver-Metal-strap-.jpg

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LOL, they totally copied Apple and even kept the huge incredibly ugly bezel the apple watch has.
 

kdarling

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I'm having a hard time figuring out what people think Asus is copying.

Their version 2 looks very similar to their first model:

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So it's certainly not the fashion part or the basic shape.

It's also not the button or inductive charging, which others like the Moto 360 had long ago.

Is it the choice of sizes? Omate did that last year, and I've already predicted that this would be the year of more smartwatches being tailored to women.

As for bezels, anything beyond the almost-no-bezel Moto 360 is at risk of being mocked, IMHO :D

Poor Asus just has to deal with Android Wear, which tends to be bright.
 

Blakjack

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http://www.droid-life.com/2015/06/0...-in-two-sizes-with-ip67-rating/#disqus_thread

I'm not saying they're copying the Apple Watch -- Android Wear did come first and Asus did have a decent looking smartwatch on the market before the Apple Watch was released. However, they are, IMHO, looking to duplicate the marketing formula used by Apple.

Two sizes, different finishes (including "rose gold") and multiple band offerings right down to the press shot of a shiny stainless steel watch and mesh band.

Thoughts?

Don't be silly.....they are blatantly copying the apple watch. Android wear came before Apple watch but Apple didn't copy one physical aspect of any android wear device.

The Zenwatch is horrifically ugly. It looks like a a Chinese knockoff of the Apple Watch.
 

Blakjack

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I'm having a hard time figuring out what people think Asus is copying.

Their version 2 looks very similar to their first model:

View attachment 557964

So it's certainly not the fashion part or the basic shape.

It's also not the button or inductive charging, which others like the Moto 360 had long ago.

Is it the choice of sizes? Omate did that last year, and I've already predicted that this would be the year of more smartwatches being tailored to women.

As for bezels, anything beyond the almost-no-bezel Moto 360 is at risk of being mocked, IMHO :D

Poor Asus just has to deal with Android Wear, which tends to be bright.


You're not serious right? The number of bands, the top of bands, the device colors, the marketing video, .......don't be silly man. They are copying. It is what it is, but don't sit there and act like you're blind.
 

Lloydbm41

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Don't be silly.....they are blatantly copying the apple watch. Android wear came before Apple watch but Apple didn't copy one physical aspect of any android wear device.

The Zenwatch is horrifically ugly. It looks like a a Chinese knockoff of the Apple Watch.
The original Zenwatch was actually a very nice and elegant design. They went their own way in the design format and I thought they would move forward with that. Looks like Asus copied Apple to me on this generation watch, I def agree with you there.
 

dec.

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Is it the choice of sizes? Omate did that last year, and I've already predicted that this would be the year of more smartwatches being tailored to women.

Since you appear to be the new smartwatch authority :D - where can I buy either size of this "Omate"? The only sources so far were discount dumpings on Amazon and extremely bad reviews all over the place but I just cannot see where I can purchase and select two sizes? Thanks.
 

Switchback666

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I'm having a hard time figuring out what people think Asus is copying.

Their version 2 looks very similar to their first model:

View attachment 557964

Poor Asus just has to deal with Android Wear, which tends to be bright.

God damn! I was wondering were are the huge bezel people talking about and now i can see it from your pictures; HUGE
 

Oohara

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New hands on from IFA in Berlin.


Sadly I have to say that finally seeing it up close like this made me lose interest :( That bezel really is huge and the display doesn't flow into it seamlessly like on the Apple Watch. It just looks like a big dead zone that keeps teasing you by not being a display.
 
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