Agreed. Cellphone users and iPhone users alike shouldn't have to suffer from other users (whether they be iPhone users or not) taking up all the bandwidth, especially for simple tasks such as loading a map.
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Att Wireless CEO Hints at 'managing' iPhone traffic
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One of the ways they could manage it is to have a graduated class of usage.
For example, someone who uses 100MB/month would only pay $10/month. Each additional 100MB would cost an additional $10/month. *
Depending on how greedy AT&T is, they'd cap it at a certain amount.
*idea from Farhad Manjoo's article
For example, someone who uses 100MB/month would only pay $10/month. Each additional 100MB would cost an additional $10/month. *
Depending on how greedy AT&T is, they'd cap it at a certain amount.
*idea from Farhad Manjoo's article
Wow.... I have never seen such a more wrong post. Where to begin?
1. FiOS has no impact on 3G backhaul. Verizon isn't set up that way. The two networks are organized to be completely separate, and even if they weren't, Verizon's abysmal FiOS penetration doesn't help them in areas where it doesn't exist.... including the half of the country where VZW has coverage, but Verizon has neither FiOS nor regular landline services and must rely on the ILEC in that area for backhaul... which can often be AT&T.
To be sure, there are also places where AT&T has to rely Verizon for backhaul. FiOS doesn't help them there, either.
2. 1xRTT? Really? The problem here is data, not so much voice traffic. And the fact that AT&T's 3G network handles both voice and data as opposed to EVDO generally helps them in that regard. The issue of course, is there's still not enough UMTS/HSPA to go around yet.
3. If the iPhone were to hit Verizon, EVDO being for data only would be largely irrelevant. If they ended up with the same crush of data users, then more EVDO pilot channels would be required, at the expense of voice, or Verizon would keep things as they are at the expense of data performance. Same problem, different management methods.
If AT&T is going to start "managing" iPhone users, then they've basically said they can't handle iPhone exclusivity, and it's time for that exclusivity to end. The problem, unfortunately, is that whether some people like it or not, CDMA has reached a dead end. You see Canadian, Australian and other CDMA carriers building out HSPA+ to evolve their networks, and Verizon is getting ready to roll out LTE. Sprint, for whatever reason, is doing its own thing with WiMAX. And given the extra components needed, I can see Apple's reluctance to release a CDMA version of the iPhone. So this mess might not be resolved for a while.
Dunno about that. We've seen some really wrong posts around here.
I think you meant that his post (and probably mine as well) was incomplete.Verizon Wireless has contracted with Verizon Partner Solutions to provide fiber backhaul to 90% of towers within five years, which matches the LTE final rollout time frame.
Obviously that's not done just via FiOS, you're right.
Help me out here. Why would there need to be more EVDO pilot channels? From the tower, it's global no matter how broken up. From a mobile, it's part of the overall data transmission.
In the USA at least, when CDMA is dead in a decade, so will GSM be gone or almost so. LTE and who knows what else will have taken over.
But yes, "world" phones after that time will probably have a mixture of LTE and older GSM modes for use in less advanced countries.
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IMO world phones with olderGSM modes are a given. If you ask me with UMTS and LTE they need to standardize a frequency already. Would save costs. IMO UMTS should be on 850 and 2100 as a world standard instead of the US, and Europe being on different frequnecys. They CAN use 850 almost Anywhere for UMTS but can't use 2100 in the US because of allocation problems.
I think he might be talking about capacity issues with an iPhone on EVDO....dunno though that doesn't seam to make sense.
I would go a step further - iPhone is THE reason for AT&T's popularity.
If/when they loose their exclusivity, especially if a carrier like Verizon picks it up, I can guarantee a mass exodus.
My understanding is that VZW would need to switch from their CDMA network. With all my push apps, I'd miss 90% of my calls
.Yeah, I pay $30 for 3G unlimited data and use on average about 50mb per month. At work and home and almost everywhere in between I am on wifi except when in my car and then I am usually driving. They should give discounts for iPhone users that use under 100mb.
It would make a lot more sense for them to make different data plans for different levels of usage like they do with their voice plans. I use nothing but wi-fi but it would be nice to pay maybe $5 a month to have the ability to look up a phone number or set a route in Maps.
I'll keep dreamin'...