Autodesk doesn't mess up on my PC with multiple OS's on different partitions. Why not just create a partition like you would on a PC and install Windows that way? What's the point of Boot camp really? Who's to blame again? Autodesk or Apple. My money is on Apple.
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Autodesk doesn't mess up on my PC with multiple OS's on different partitions. Why not just create a partition like you would on a PC and install Windows that way? What's the point of Boot camp really? Who's to blame again? Autodesk or Apple. My money is on Apple.
Does your PC have EFI or bios? I think the difference between these two schemes may not be trivial if Autodesk licensing method depends on access to some intricate parts of the computer. In that sense, Sesshi might be correct. Mac Pro may be just another PC, but with a very unusual structure, one Autodesk does not test against.
I think Autodesk almost have all the apps they want now.I do wonder if they tried to get Zbrush and were rebuffed,so they bought Mudbox instead though.
My guess is they will go after renderers next.They have all the best modeling and CA tools as it is.
There is a bit of a feeler out to Mac users to test the waters from Autodesk though.Maybe with a decent response Max might be coming our way?....I doubt it though.
http://www.cgchannel.com/news/viewfeature.jsp?newsid=8078
My guess is they will go after renderers next.They have all the best modeling and CA tools as it is.
There is a bit of a feeler out to Mac users to test the waters from Autodesk though.Maybe with a decent response Max might be coming our way?....I doubt it though.
http://www.cgchannel.com/news/viewfeature.jsp?newsid=8078
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I was going to buy image modeler,then Autodesk took over Realviz and killed the Mac version off.So I am kinda interested in the fact it has resurfaced again.
I was going to buy image modeler,then Autodesk took over Realviz and killed the Mac version off.So I am kinda interested in the fact it has resurfaced again.
AutoDesk simply won't respond positively because they just don't care about their customers at all. It takes at least 4 days for them to activate their software. On one occasion it took them a fortnight!
I don't know of any other company anywhere that charges around £3000 for a piece of software, takes your money and won't let you use it for 2 weeks.
There are only 2 ways to fix this, and only 1 is guaranteed to work.
The first is to complain in writing to Trading standards. I'm sure that by Autodesk knowingly modifying your software in such a way as to make it unusable has to be illegal.
Then write to the MD of AutoDesk UK and inform him of your problem and the actions you have taken. You might actually get a reply. Then I suggest you go and see your MP. You'll probably be fobbed off by being directed somewhere else like the DTI, but there is a vague chance that someone with a bit more influence will start to ask questions, particularly if you quote your meeting with your MP. Let's face it, if you were the director of a company doing this sort of thing, you wouldn't feel comfortable justifying questionable business practices to government, or a government body.
This is a lot of work, and will take up more of your time than you want. I don't think it will get a policy change, but it might well get you a 'official' workaround. It wouldn't do any harm to write about this to the MD of Apple UK.
The second solution is to start using something else. You probably really won't want to do this, but if you do, you need to get involved with it and shape it to your needs. It won't be able to replace your main tools now, but in time it might. I have done this. I moved away from AutoCAD, to Vectorworks and SketchUp, and years ago I got involved with development of an integrated render engine for the latter. I don't need AutoDesk products personally any more, and slowly I'm trying to move the office away. I know Blender has a complete b*tch of a UI and probably doesn't have loads of the features that you use, but it has been massively extended by hundreds of people all over the world, and it has some amazing modules for really complex simulations.
This is the only thing that will work. All powerful bodies (whether they are companies like IBM, governments or even the Roman Empire) eventually collapse because they get too lazy and lose focus. Even Microsoft are on the wane.
The obvious response to this may be something like, "What a huge amount of effort to deal with a truly shi***y company getting spectacularly rich by behaving in a truly shi***y way!" You shouldn't have to do this when you have legally paid for your hardware and software and invested an immense amount of time and money in it. For Autodesk to shaft you like this is utterly contemptible.
The fact is though, that if we just whinge about things like this but do nothing, nothing ever changes. I like this quote:-
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists"
To paraphrase, I guess it's a case of what you are prepared to do about it. I genuinely don't mean to be be rude, but I think it's a case of "put up or shut up".
I don't know of any other company anywhere that charges around £3000 for a piece of software, takes your money and won't let you use it for 2 weeks.
There are only 2 ways to fix this, and only 1 is guaranteed to work.
The first is to complain in writing to Trading standards. I'm sure that by Autodesk knowingly modifying your software in such a way as to make it unusable has to be illegal.
Then write to the MD of AutoDesk UK and inform him of your problem and the actions you have taken. You might actually get a reply. Then I suggest you go and see your MP. You'll probably be fobbed off by being directed somewhere else like the DTI, but there is a vague chance that someone with a bit more influence will start to ask questions, particularly if you quote your meeting with your MP. Let's face it, if you were the director of a company doing this sort of thing, you wouldn't feel comfortable justifying questionable business practices to government, or a government body.
This is a lot of work, and will take up more of your time than you want. I don't think it will get a policy change, but it might well get you a 'official' workaround. It wouldn't do any harm to write about this to the MD of Apple UK.
The second solution is to start using something else. You probably really won't want to do this, but if you do, you need to get involved with it and shape it to your needs. It won't be able to replace your main tools now, but in time it might. I have done this. I moved away from AutoCAD, to Vectorworks and SketchUp, and years ago I got involved with development of an integrated render engine for the latter. I don't need AutoDesk products personally any more, and slowly I'm trying to move the office away. I know Blender has a complete b*tch of a UI and probably doesn't have loads of the features that you use, but it has been massively extended by hundreds of people all over the world, and it has some amazing modules for really complex simulations.
This is the only thing that will work. All powerful bodies (whether they are companies like IBM, governments or even the Roman Empire) eventually collapse because they get too lazy and lose focus. Even Microsoft are on the wane.
The obvious response to this may be something like, "What a huge amount of effort to deal with a truly shi***y company getting spectacularly rich by behaving in a truly shi***y way!" You shouldn't have to do this when you have legally paid for your hardware and software and invested an immense amount of time and money in it. For Autodesk to shaft you like this is utterly contemptible.
The fact is though, that if we just whinge about things like this but do nothing, nothing ever changes. I like this quote:-
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists"
To paraphrase, I guess it's a case of what you are prepared to do about it. I genuinely don't mean to be be rude, but I think it's a case of "put up or shut up".
You know what you should do? Campaign for an OS X version.
Switchers who want to continue with the Fisher-Price should stay with OS X and dump Windows altogether - They really should.
Switchers who want to continue with the Fisher-Price should stay with OS X and dump Windows altogether - They really should.
Well, having established that AutoDesk are not changing the licensing of the current versions I can continue it use it. Future versions will have AutoDesk licensing. There is an obvious solution to the licensing problem but we don't do that sort of thing.
I too use SketchUp and a render program but I will need 3DS and XSI.
You have a point, up to a point, but the path you suggest would involve me pretty much giving up everything else merely to pursue Autodesk and frankly I have a life to go to.
If we all just "shut up" then then we all suffer in silence whereas if we talk about it we can bring the problems we are having out into the open, compare notes and come up with strategies. You look like the type who can help. If you can write something that long to tell us to stop whining then you should be able to write some stonking letters to AutoDesk.
Digital Rapids are still far worse for customer support... Generally you can get cracks to at least get Autodesk software working, Digital Rapids system if they have enabled it you don't have a hope.
I don't understand why this guy is on Macrumors when he's made it very clear that he doesn't like Macs. Perhaps he gets a thrill from trolling?
And yet, I think, he still spends more in one year on Apple stuff than most people do in their entire life...
Actually I wouldn't mind doing that. In fact if I had tried AutoCAD licensing on the Mac and failed in the way that you had described, I would have. If I actually fully understood the issue you are having with Bootcamp licensing, I would offer to write one for you. However, it doesn't seem necessary while your current version works. Most of the correspondence required is kind of based on the latest licensing changes rendering the software inoperable.
The thing about endless ruminating about things, is that it seldom changes things on its own. Effecting change requires positive, targeted action so ultimately someone has to do something.
3ds Max Design 2010 DOES support BootCamp
Hardware Requirements
At a minimum, 3ds Max Design 2010 32-bit software requires a system with the following:
•Intel® Pentium® 4 or higher, AMD Athlon® 64 or higher, or AMD Opteron® processor
• 1 GB RAM (2 GB recommended)
• 2 GB hard disk space
• 1 GB swap space (2 GB recommended)
• Direct3D 10, Direct3D 9, or OpenGL‐capable graphics card with minimum 128 MB RAM
• Three‐button mouse with mouse driver software
• DVD‐ROM drive
Note: Apple® computers based on Intel processors and running Microsoft operating systems are supported using Apple’s Boot Camp.
Hardware Requirements
At a minimum, 3ds Max Design 2010 32-bit software requires a system with the following:
•Intel® Pentium® 4 or higher, AMD Athlon® 64 or higher, or AMD Opteron® processor
• 1 GB RAM (2 GB recommended)
• 2 GB hard disk space
• 1 GB swap space (2 GB recommended)
• Direct3D 10, Direct3D 9, or OpenGL‐capable graphics card with minimum 128 MB RAM
• Three‐button mouse with mouse driver software
• DVD‐ROM drive
Note: Apple® computers based on Intel processors and running Microsoft operating systems are supported using Apple’s Boot Camp.
It's pretty much true. I would get a mac for my girlfriend because she won't actually be doing any work on it. Old hardware with a pretty case doesn't get the work done any faster.
But that is what Boot Camp does - it simply creates a new partition, then reboots your machine so you can boot into the Windows (or whatever) install CD. That's it.
If you manually create the partition yourself, and boot from the Windows install CD, you'd be doing exactly the same thing, but with more work. That's all.
Why doesn't people understand this? Boot Camp isn't magic or some weird emulation thingy. It's just a thinly veiled partition wizard.
It's obviously on AutoDesk for (apparently) having a problem with EFI partitions, not Apple.
Well why doesn't Autocad work natively on Linux? Why are you using an EFI partition? Why can't you understand that Autodesk doesn't support macs? It works with every non-Apple computer using Windows so how is this Autodesk's problem? Autodesk has a hard enough time getting it to work on a Windows machine so I'm sure they hardly care about it working on Mac, Bootcamp, VMWare, etc.
Another thing is why would you buy an expensive Mac with low end power to use software for Windows? Don't get me wrong I like the iphone, mini, MB, MBP, but it would be stupid for me to purchase any Mac to use Autocad.
I highly doubt anybody is stupid enough to buy a Mac to use PC software.. It just so happens that one or two apps we depend on is PC only, thus the need for Bootcamp.