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geta

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The 12mm was actually replaced by another camera system - I converted to micro 4/3, so now I'm using Panasonic 12mm lenses for my wide angle shots.
I never had the 35mm 1.8 as I went straight to the Sigma 30mm 2.8, but I had an older version of the Sigma 30mm 1.4 on a Nikon DSLR. As far as I remember it was a great lens.

Cheers :)

Hugh

How do you like the micro 4\3 compare to APS-C, and what was the reason for you jumping ship?

Thank you kindly. That was zone focused too. No viewfinder used for it.

I was checking your Flicker page, really digging your pics, spacial the low light\night stuff!
 
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kenoh

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How do you like the micro 4\3 compare to APS-C, and what was the reason for you jumping ship?



I was checking your Flicker page, really digging your pics, spacial the low light\night stuff!

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it when people like my shots.
 

Hughmac

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How do you like the micro 4\3 compare to APS-C, and what was the reason for you jumping ship?
Well, to expand my story a little, I jumped from a Sony NEX-6 to an A7, and found that full frame wasn't for me (not ready).
I had read a lot about m4/3 and bought a 2nd hand Panasonic G1. I was sold on the far greater simplicity of the menu system as opposed to Sony, and couldn't see any difference in image quality (with the sort of shots I take) over the other cameras.
I sold all my Sony stuff and invested in a Panasonic G6 and their best lenses; that's where I am now still, so I'm happy.

Cheers :)

Hugh
 
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RichardMZhlubb

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FYI, this may be of interest to this discussion. I was looking at cameras as a possible gift for my daughter, and Nikon has a refurbished D3300 and 18-55 mm lens for $346. That’s a great camera and price point for an entry-level DSLR.

Link
 

Fishrrman

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OP:

In earlier posts, I mentioned that either the a6300 or a6500 would be better than the a6000.

One other significant improvement in the a6500 -- in-body image stabilization.
I don't think the 6300 has it (not sure).
I would definitely pay extra for such a feature, if the a6xxx form factor is what you want.
 

geta

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OP:

In earlier posts, I mentioned that either the a6300 or a6500 would be better than the a6000.

One other significant improvement in the a6500 -- in-body image stabilization.
I don't think the 6300 has it (not sure).
I would definitely pay extra for such a feature, if the a6xxx form factor is what you want.

For video purpose having ibis would be nice addition, but i can leave without it while taking pictures... with the A6300 im already stretching my budget, and the A6500 is way above my price range.

On other note, i was yesterday in a shop to feel first hand some of there cameras bodies - from the ones they had the two i like the most was Sony A6000 (they didnt had the 6300\6500) and Canon EOS M6 (not surprised - always liked Canons). They only had the Fuji X-A10, but felt nice in my hands, so im looking forward to check the X-T20 as well. the Panasonic (dont remember the model) and the Olympus E-M10mk3 & PanF didnt blow my mind compared to the other ones...
 

spacemnspiff

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@spacemnspiff , as much as i like Canon, their tiny native lenses collection for M mount makes me jump to the Sony ship. As for other Canon lenses, if im not mistaken, i can use EF & EF-S down the road with adapter if i like\need. ;)
I think they would be compatible, but I haven't really looked at the compatibility of EF/EF-S lenses with M mounts.
 

geta

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Still trying to find a shop in the area that having Fuji X-T20 to try it\hold it in my hands, to see how its feels compared to the other cameras i liked. One thing i've noticed that Fuji OG lenses are quite expensive, specially the two prime lenses im interested (compared to the Sony\Sigma ones i like)...
 

kenoh

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Still trying to find a shop in the area that having Fuji X-T20 to try it\hold it in my hands, to see how its feels compared to the other cameras i liked. One thing i've noticed that Fuji OG lenses are quite expensive, specially the two prime lenses im interested (compared to the Sony\Sigma ones i like)...

Which lenses are you comparing the price on? Like for like I found Sony to be more expensive for example:

Fuji 23mm f2 £419 vs Sony 35mm f2.8 £569
Fuji 35mm f1.4 £499 vs Sony 55mm f1.8 £699
Fuji 56mm f1.2 £849 vs Sony 85mm f1.8 (£509) but Batis is closer peer for comparison at £1,699
 

geta

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Which lenses are you comparing the price on? Like for like I found Sony to be more expensive for example:

Fuji 23mm f2 £419 vs Sony 35mm f2.8 £569
Fuji 35mm f1.4 £499 vs Sony 55mm f1.8 £699
Fuji 56mm f1.2 £849 vs Sony 85mm f1.8 (£509) but Batis is closer peer for comparison at £1,699

Im assuming the Sony lenses you referring here are full frame lenses, i was comparing Sony E-mount (APS-C) to Fuji X-mount version based on amazon.de -

Fuji XF16mmF1.4 R WR €989 vs Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN | C €407
Fuji XF35mmF1.4 R €589 vs Sigma Sigma 30mm F1.4 DC DN | C €312
Fuji XF35mmF2 R WR €417 vs Sony E 35 mm F1.8 OSS €379
 

kenoh

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Im assuming the Sony lenses you referring here are full frame lenses, i was comparing Sony E-mount (APS-C) to Fuji X-mount version based on amazon.de -

Fuji XF16mmF1.4 R WR €989 vs Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN | C €407
Fuji XF35mmF1.4 R €589 vs Sigma Sigma 30mm F1.4 DC DN | C €312
Fuji XF35mmF2 R WR €417 vs Sony E 35 mm F1.8 OSS €379

Ah yes... because I switched to Fuji from Sony FF... good point... well made... :)

I will say however that the Fuji XF lenses are more comparable to the Sony FF lenses in build and optical quality. So in this case they are not cheaper but certainly better made than the ones here if that helps. Weather resistant for a start. :)
 

geta

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Ah yes... because I switched to Fuji from Sony FF... good point... well made... :)

I will say however that the Fuji XF lenses are more comparable to the Sony FF lenses in build and optical quality. So in this case they are not cheaper but certainly better made than the ones here if that helps. Weather resistant for a start. :)

I got no problems to invest on good lenses, and im sure there is a reason why the price it high (build quality, weather resistant..). I was just comparing the 2 lenses i liked for the Sony system (Sigma 16mm F1.4 & Sony 35mm F1.8) against Fuji lenses price wise... anyways i still need to check Fuji's bodies first before i decide.. ;)
 
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unculturedswine

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Any thoughts on the Fuji X-T20, its the same price as the Sony A6300 body ?

That's what I shoot with. I *love* it. I came from Canon (20D > 5D II > 7D). Canon APS-C sensors are garbage compared to what this little Fuji will do, and the bodies I had couldn't touch this Fuji on AF performance. Do you know how stupid it is to be forced to only have focus points in the center of your view?

Fuji are a delight to use, photography is fun again for me. I love having several great film-simulations to pick from. Because of these I pick the film-sim to match my mood, shoot JPG and skip RAW (unless I'm getting paid). JPGs come out gorgeous and then I can quickly transfer to my iPhone via Wi-Fi and share it. I rarely end up in front of a computer with photography now and that makes me happy. I have too many hobbies that end up with me sitting on my butt in front of a screen. Fuji put me in touch with the art of photography again and gets me out shooting.

Because it's so small and light I even bought myself an everyday carry man-purse and take my kit with me everywhere. I would never do that with a matching DSLR kit. I also bought a battery pack and can charge the camera via USB if the camera is low. Worked like a champ on my trip to Japan last April without killing my back.

I have the 23 1.4 (bought used off eBay for $550) and the 50 f2. I shoot the majority of photos with the 23 1.4, it's such a great lens. https://instagram.com/unculturedswine

EDIT: I have normal sized guy hands, and the camera is small. I bought a Meike hand grip (like $20?) and it makes a world of difference. You get used to the smaller size pretty quick. My work has a 5DIII here and it about breaks my arm everytime I pick it up. I don't miss that size at all.
 
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