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Base model M4 MacBook Pro comes with 16GB RAM
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1) Yes they do (see below). It looks different on mine though, possible because it’s a different model and year.
2) I believe the person you replied to was saying it could be another standard config as opposed to base config, not custom.
Which is irrelevant regarding whether or not this is the base config for the upcoming models.
Some also saw this and said that can be true that M4 die had this and apple will not hide 1 tb4
We will see soon enough i guess
This circus has gone on way too long. As a Mac enthusiast I'm not going to jump for joy for something that should have been there in 2014 on a pro model. My 2010 MBP had 16GB, OK? At this point, I'm agitated that the platform I'm developing on won't survive if they keep it up. 16GB for base Macbook Air, 24 at ABSOLUTE MINIMUM for a Pro. Hello, the word PRO is in there. Thanks for hearing my complaint, have a nice day all.
16 GB? Can't be right, 8 GB is more than enough for most people, keep reading that in this forum.
It’s true that there’s nothing else close to Macs available on the market but this egregious pricing really is too much. The baseline Mac offerings are already more expensive than competitors. This premium is somewhat justified since the quality of a Mac is far superior to its equivalent PC offerings, but the upgrade pricing is just pure greed. There is zero justification and unfortunately people won’t vote with their wallets to force a change so we will just be in a continuous cycle of screaming into a void.
Same old, same old. Time for a different tune, it is just the same whine over & over.
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This leak is crazy (also no new wallpaper this year, boo). Also like over a month before the release….
But also, knowing that last year’s box also got leaked…
I guess done by Apple to manage the expectations, otherwise seems like a big issue with the production line, whatever.
You missed out when they were proclaiming 8GB = 16GB. Reality is even 16GB isn't enough for some use cases like trying to run Black Myth: Wukong under compatibility layers that exceed 16GB so minimum 18GB or 24GB is preferred.
Nobody here knows whether most people need 8GB or 16GB. But we can infer that if Apple and other companies still sell 8GB then it’s because there is a large enough market for which it is enough.
I mean you could mention any number of use cases where X GB of memory isn’t enough, right? There are most certainly professional use cases (perhaps something like editing a feature film) where perhaps even the current top-end of 128 GB RAM on the M3 MBPs aren’t enough. The fact of the matter is that for many people 8 GB is more than enough, and for some people it simply isn’t. Claiming that 8 GB = 16 GB is a bit silly but 8 GB is still good enough to handle casual use for many people. However, it also doesn’t mean that Apple should have been or should continue to offer that as the base model.
Don’t mind me. I’ll just leave this here:
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Because it’s more convenient to just pay. This is why across the board prices keep going up. But objectively speaking RAM upgrades should not be in the hundreds of dollars lol.
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I think you’re pretty much right, there is a large market willing to pay for the convenience and UX of Macs. Value is very subjective, but I would say MR users are the most critical of Apple (and its prices)—the criticisms seem to drown out the praises here most days.
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I simply do not understand people who deliberately want less. What is the thought process in there? If you are happy with less, then why not simply be quiet? Why actively fight progress?
Well... 16GB is kinda of a joke at those prices. 32GB would be a good base to have. 16GB is not enough.
32GB RAM and 1TB storage as a base would be good.
There is a large enough market for which a M1 would be enough, or 6 hour battery life, or 4 cores, or a lower-res display, or where Thunderbolt 4 is not needed... why does this “enough for some people” argument only come up in relation to RAM?
We’re talking about the MacBook Pro here - and even if you only take “pro” to mean “better than the model that doesn’t say ‘pro’” there are cheaper models from Apple for the “enough for some people” market
"Enough" isn't only in relation to RAM, but RAM is what seems to be complained about the most in these forums for whatever reason. You're making what appears to be a baseless claim about the size of the market for an M1, 6 hours battery, etc. device. I'll say again--unless one has done the extensive research, no one here knows the sizes of these markets or whether they are worth selling to--we can only reasonably infer that if companies are selling these configurations, it's because there is a market for them that is worth selling to (and it will differ from company to company). Apple doesn't sell the configuration you suggested, so it's likely there isn't a market for it, at least not one that Apple sees as worth pursuing.
The name "Pro" is completely irrelevant. We know this because if Apple lowered the price of an M3 MBA to $500 but renamed it to MBP, everyone would be happy about the price and no one would be angry about the name. If they did, it would be indicative of an odd compulsion. Price and what you get in return is what people care about and what it comes down to. Whether the base spec MBP at its current price is a good value is ultimately a subjective judgement, but the logical error I commonly see in these forums is a hyperfocus on a single spec (like RAM), ignoring the many other factors in price.