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Actually the 6s benchmarks significantly lower than the 8 or X. See here: iPhone 6s, iPhone 8, iPhone X. You're right though, it's something Apple has done - they've optimised the software for their latest devices instead of focusing on devices that are 3 generations old. And why would they? They're not making any money off people who hold onto their old devices. That's not a conspiracy, just common business practice. However, a nice side-effect is that it also makes for more stable software, which has long been a solid argument in the iOS vs Android debate.

Anyway, Apple don't force you to update iOS, so the choice is in your hands. Never update, miss out on new features, but keep the same performance as the day you bought it, or update and get new features but lose some performance. You can't expect the same performance out of an OS that's designed for devices almost twice as powerful as yours.


Problem is they are still selling the 6S and SE though even though they know damn well they will run like crap on this firmware. So you have to ask yourself whats worse. Android where you get few updates or Apple who will release updates and turn your phone to crap when they deem it to old?
 
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Problem is they are still selling the 6S and SE though even though they know damn well they will run like crap on this firmware. So you have to ask yourself whats worse. Android where you get few updates or Apple who will release updates and turn your phone to crap when they deem it to old?
Seems like different people are not seeing their phones turn to "crap".
 
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6S+ and i was going to say better but i reliazed that it works odd... sometimes it jumps 2-3% down. It was 86% a moment ago, now it is 84%. What happened to 85? Otherwise, hard to tell, but it seems to drain less.
 
6S+ and i was going to say better but i reliazed that it works odd... sometimes it jumps 2-3% down. It was 86% a moment ago, now it is 84%. What happened to 85? Otherwise, hard to tell, but it seems to drain less.

With the YouTube APP, watching a video, each 10 seconds down 1% of battery....

Since 11.1 mine dont jump like you say, but as i wrote in other topic:

With my iphone 6s plus 64GB, I do about 4 hours of screen use

A little bit better than with 11.0.3 but far from 10, about half far approximately ...
 
Problem is they are still selling the 6S and SE though even though they know damn well they will run like crap on this firmware.

Logic would say though that this problem would affect ALL 6S' running iOS11 and that patently isn't the case. Much more likely there is a app(s) not playing nicely, installed app mixture is THE most significant technical difference between individuals users running the same model of iPhone on the same version of iOS.
 
Logic would say though that this problem would affect ALL 6S' running iOS11 and that patently isn't the case. Much more likely there is a app(s) not playing nicely, installed app mixture is THE most significant technical difference between individuals users running the same model of iPhone on the same version of iOS.

Also have to consider that many 6s are running with significantly degraded batteries. I’m sure its been mentioned already but realistically it seems like common sense to figure 7 and 8 devices will have superior battery performance. Also I wouldn’t trust these battery apps that say your battery health is good when you know yourself that you have been rocking the same battery for 2 years. If you value your 6s, and you should (still a very powerful iPhone) then consider swapping the battery to get back to optimum awesome-ness.
 
Also have to consider that many 6s are running with significantly degraded batteries.

Degraded batteries by Apple iOS 11 yes....

A battery can not degrade from one day to the next, degrade is something that happens little by little

If the duration of the battery lowers its performance by half just when you upgrade the operating system, it is not attrition or degradation
 
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Turning off "always" location access to most apps fixed my battery life significantly.

I had turned them off previously, but iOS 11 gave many of the apps "always" access again.

Try it and report back.
 
It is not any better for me - from the charger, few minutes later, 6% lost, and the phone fewls warm when using. Run the battery wear level app, and got that the wear level is high 27% so something isnt right. Before ios11 it was 12% which sound quite right.

Easy to find where it had been significant lost in battery after installing ”the next big draining update and later some sort of fix”...

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After ios11.1

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Wow, airpods/apple music app literally eats the battery... numbers are dropping one by one. Had to stop listening...
 
Anyway, Apple don't force you to update iOS

Actually, they do.
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Degraded batteries by Apple iOS 11 yes....

A battery can not degrade from one day to the next, degrade is something that happens little by little

If the duration of the battery lowers its performance by half just when you upgrade the operating system, it is not attrition or degradation

Apple just replaced the battery on my 6s. With a brand new battery, I get about 6 hours of usage on iOS 11.1. With the original battery - about 4.5 hours.
 
I have noticed a significant drop in battery life since the update to ISO 11-11.03..
Also I notice my iPhone 6 runs hotter too.
What can be done about this..
Is it possible to revert back to iso 10 somehow?
 
It is not any better for me - from the charger, few minutes later, 6% lost, and the phone fewls warm when using. Run the battery wear level app, and got that the wear level is high 27% so something isnt right. Before ios11 it was 12% which sound quite right.

Easy to find where it had been significant lost in battery after installing ”the next big draining update and later some sort of fix”...

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After ios11.1

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The battery apps on the App Store don't work. The readings are incorrect. Try using Coconut Battery on a Mac. It's the only reliable app.
 
Also have to consider that many 6s are running with significantly degraded batteries. I’m sure its been mentioned already but realistically it seems like common sense to figure 7 and 8 devices will have superior battery performance. Also I wouldn’t trust these battery apps that say your battery health is good when you know yourself that you have been rocking the same battery for 2 years. If you value your 6s, and you should (still a very powerful iPhone) then consider swapping the battery to get back to optimum awesome-ness.


I'd love to swap in a new battery. I'm at 81% capacity. Apple refused to install a new one.
 
Also have to consider that many 6s are running with significantly degraded batteries.

As I described in another thread, Apple did replace the battery on my 6s (it was tested at 84% on one visit and at 89% on another visit to the same Genius Bar). Even with a new battery, I see exactly the same problem with my 6s on iOS 11: I get 2-3 hours of usage more on iOS 10 than iOS 11. I went multiple times back and forth between iOS 10 and 11, did clean installs without using my old backups, and the results was pretty much the same with the old and new batteries.

The bottom line is that battery deterioration has nothing to do with the majority of 6s problems on iOS 11. It's the design of iOS 11.

I'm guessing that based on usage, some of us see more drastic differences than others. If you use Twitter or Facebook a lot on your device, you are probably going to see more battery drain after switching to iOS 11. If you stick to basic tasks like email or light web-browsing, the difference between iOS 10 and 11 might be not as stark.
 
This is my current usage with 6s running 11.1.1
 

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I am on my iPhone 6

My battery is currently at 51% with 3hr 3min of usage and 6hr 34min of standby. I don’t consider that too bad considering the age of the device. Before blaming iOS 11 and what crap it is, maybe ppl should consider battery wear, hardware as possible causes, and maybe the timing of iOS 11 just coincides with that.
 
This is my current usage with 6s running 11.1.1

What are the apps at the top of the list?
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I am on my iPhone 6

My battery is currently at 51% with 3hr 3min of usage and 6hr 34min of standby. I don’t consider that too bad considering the age of the device. Before blaming iOS 11 and what crap it is, maybe ppl should consider battery wear, hardware as possible causes, and maybe the timing of iOS 11 just coincides with that.

My 6s with a new battery installed by Apple had 4-5 hours of usage maximum on iOS 11. On iOS 10, it's 6-8.
 
Im seeing people posting that they're downgraded their 6s back to ios 10.3.3 from 11.1.1/11.1.2. Not that i hate ios 11, but 10.3.3 worked almost perfect for me.

Simple question - how is it possible now if it's not signed by apple anymore?

P.S. - got my battery replaced 2 days ago on my 6s. Approx 2-2.5h usage ~ 50-55% battery remains.

I am on my iPhone 6

My battery is currently at 51% with 3hr 3min of usage and 6hr 34min of standby. I don’t consider that too bad considering the age of the device. Before blaming iOS 11 and what crap it is, maybe ppl should consider battery wear, hardware as possible causes, and maybe the timing of iOS 11 just coincides with that.

How long it was when you was on 10.3.3?
 
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Im seeing people posting that they're downgraded their 6s back to ios 10.3.3 from 11.1.1/11.1.2. Not that i hate ios 11, but 10.3.3 worked almost perfect for me.

Simple question - how is it possible now if it's not signed by apple anymore?

According to https://ipsw.me , iOS 10.3.3 is still being signed in for 6s.
 
According to https://ipsw.me , iOS 10.3.3 is still being signed in for 6s.

Yes, but im getting 3194 error when trying to restore/update turned off/dfu/connect to itunes phone. Tried all option that i found in web.

Any ideas why it can be like that?

p.s. - dat battery...
 

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I am on my iPhone 6

My battery is currently at 51% with 3hr 3min of usage and 6hr 34min of standby. I don’t consider that too bad considering the age of the device. Before blaming iOS 11 and what crap it is, maybe ppl should consider battery wear, hardware as possible causes, and maybe the timing of iOS 11 just coincides with that.
Agreed. Someone in this thread was complaining about their battery dropping while using the YouTube app, when there are threads about the YouTube app being a battery hog.
 
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