Battery life...please....someone get on that...

[bmac4]

Rooting a Nexus device is one of the easiest things you can do. It's nearly impossible to brick one. If something does go wrong, you can easily flash back to stock or flash another custom ROM. So if you decided to give the N4 a try, you shouldn't worry too much about the complexity of rooting.

I've had the S3 since it was released and I don't think I've run TouchWiz for a single day in all those months. I installed Nova Prime (launcher) and you can do pretty much anything you want using it. You do lose a few of the TouchWiz widgets, but I wasn't using any of them anyway (and there are replacements readily available on the Play Store). Maybe give Nova or Apex a try and see how you like it then?



Wow, that's REALLY good battery life for the N4. What ROM/kernel combination are you running?

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And this is absolutely atrocious battery life. I'd try another ROM/kernel combination for sure. Maybe AOKP/AOSP with one of the tons of other kernels?

I do have the nova launcher, and I do love it a lot. I have it pretty much looking like stock Android. My only fear is when key lime pie comes out and it take samsung and att 8 months to release yo the note 2.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie;

Nexus 4 gets it right away
Galaxy Nexus very soon
Nexus-S maybe a month or two down the line.

Galaxy S4 gets it, right before the release of the Galaxy S5 Spring 14'

 

[KentuckyHouse]

I do have the nova launcher, and I do love it a lot. I have it pretty much looking like stock Android. My only fear is when key lime pie comes out and it take samsung and att 8 months to release yo the note 2.

That's a valid fear, unfortunately. I'm planning on picking up the S4 and I won't be the least bit surprised if Tig Bitties is right in his quote below.

Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie;

Nexus 4 gets it right away
Galaxy Nexus very soon
Nexus-S maybe a month or two down the line.

Galaxy S4 gets it, right before the release of the Galaxy S5 Spring 14'

I'm already ok with the idea that my S3 isn't going to get Key Lime Pie. I figure that's just how it is. Plus, with custom ROMs being so plentiful, I'll just flash one of those once they're good and stable. I mean, I'm running 4.2.2 right now (Task's AOKP) since my AT&T S3 is still on 4.1.1 and apparently the carriers are completely neutering the 4.1.2 update, taking out huge chunks of features. If it weren't for LTE, I'd totally get the international version of all my phones. I hate carriers.

I actually preordered the N4 and decided to cancel it when I got backordered on launch day. I've actually been glad that happened since LTE lit up in my area about 2 weeks after launch.

I'm totally planning on picking up the next Nexus phone if by some miracle it has LTE compatibility. While, in my area, it isn't THAT much faster than HSPA+, I'm just not sure I can go back full time to a non-LTE phone.

 

[Tig Bitties]

5.0 KLP ROM's won't be out for non Nexus devices until several months the earliest after Google releases it first for the Nexus line.

Remember ICS 4.0 ? That was a a full version number over Gingerbread. It took many months for Cyanogen CM team to get their ROM going, as did others. Basically non Nexus phones didn't get 4.0 ICS ROM's for like 4 months, and those were rough alphas.

If you want the latest Android OS, you need a Nexus device. Otherwise you'll be waiting god knows how long ?

 

[bmac4]

5.0 KLP ROM's won't be out for non Nexus devices until several months the earliest after Google releases it first for the Nexus line.

Remember ICS 4.0 ? That was a a full version number over Gingerbread. It took many months for Cyanogen CM team to get their ROM going, as did others. Basically non Nexus phones didn't get 4.0 ICS ROM's for like 4 months, and those were rough alphas.

If you want the latest Android OS, you need a Nexus device. Otherwise you'll be waiting god knows how long ?

Yea I know. That is why I am fighting with myself over keeping note 2 or getting the nexus 4. I love the battery part of the note 2, but I also like having the latest and greatest.

 

[sentinelsx]

I doubt KLP will be the huge jump ICS was to gingerbread.

Google has already established their design language since ICS. I don't think they want a big change so soon.

All I see is more features added and maybe some battery life improvements.

Which means cm11 won't take long, just like cm10 didn't take long from cm9.

And since ICS my desire to get the latest update all hasn't been that strong, since I believe ICS was such a huge leap it will be iterative updates moving forward. I never got jealous of galaxy nexus users using jellybean while I used ICS on my s3 because the pros of s3 far outweighed the faster updates of gnexus.

Then again I am the guy who updated his iPhone 4 to 5.1 in summer 2012 (8 months after it released) because I was happy with my tweaked 4.3.3 and only updated because I was about to sell it.

Once your UI starts having the consistency over a few years, the desire to update gets lower.

 

[bmac4]

I doubt KLP will be the huge jump ICS was to gingerbread.

Google has already established their design language since ICS. I don't think they want a big change so soon.

All I see is more features added and maybe some battery life improvements.

Which means cm11 won't take long, just like cm10 didn't take long from cm9.

And since ICS my desire to get the latest update all hasn't been that strong, since I believe ICS was such a huge leap it will be iterative updates moving forward. I never got jealous of galaxy nexus users using jellybean while I used ICS on my s3 because the pros of s3 far outweighed the faster updates of gnexus.

Then again I am the guy who updated his iPhone 4 to 5.1 in summer 2012 (8 months after it released) because I was happy with my tweaked 4.3.3 and only updated because I was about to sell it.

Once your UI starts having the consistency over a few years, the desire to update gets lower.

Yea I was kind of thinking same thing. I really do like what they did with JB, and really at this point the where do they need to go. JB is solid.

 

[Fuchal]

how are you getting 36 hours with a 2100 mah battery

Dunno, that's just how long it's lasted the few times I've gone long without charging.

 

[bagyidaw]

I think one of the reasons android usually has poor battery life is because of push notification.
In iOS developers have to use apn and only one connection needs to be maintained regardless of # of apps using push.
In android most apps roll their own. Facebook, whatsapp don't seem to be using google cloud messaging GCM.

 

[The iGentleman]

I think one of the reasons android usually has poor battery life is because of push notification.
In iOS developers have to use apn and only one connection needs to be maintained regardless of # of apps using push.
In android most apps roll their own. Facebook, whatsapp don't seem to be using google cloud messaging GCM.

That wouldn't be a cause of poor battery life. An Android device with poor battery life typically won't be because of notifications, and the battery breakdown or batter monitoring app will show you that isn't the case.

 

[tensiondeadache]

Nexus 4 user here, no plans of returning to iOS or WP8 (which probably has the best battery optimization). Today I left work with %57 battery, and drove a mile and back, streaming music on the way, and loaded a web page while I was eating lunch. When I got back I was at %22.

 

[bagyidaw]

That wouldn't be a cause of poor battery life. An Android device with poor battery life typically won't be because of notifications, and the battery breakdown or batter monitoring app will show you that isn't the case.

Ok. Just wonder that monitoring app can see everything? Sometimes I can see android OS quite high..