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Ya and now they are trying to emphasis that they want the phones to last longer. They are all in for the services game now.
USA is sucky about shareholder return. It shutters job sites and cuts jobs. I wonder what woukd be so bad about 1 company standing up and saying "suck it shareholders, I wanna treat my workers good and do what is morally right even if it means a quarterly loss every now and then. You all were poor and week to week once" they woukd be on msnbc stock falling like a rock and worthless stock lol. Sad but true. Companies are held slave by this. I wonder how this precendent was first set, shareholders first? Companies treated workers good in the 80's.
I wish everybody would go on the picket line and move over to Android for a year. I guarantee they would get there act together...
It’s not that serious. All this hype for extra stuff in the box because android does it because android HAS TO DO THIS TO COMPETE. There was a time where droids didn’t even ship with headphones. Something apples had since day one. Fact is apples in then accessories game. Always have been, why do y’all think that will change? I bought a usb c MacBook that didn’t even ship with a usb c adapter. It is what it is.
No it’s not is what it is. It’s raising the price of there handsets by $400 in only 2 years and using the same old crap from yesteryear. Even Stopped giving us the dongle whole raise prices. They careing less and less about the customer Even if it’s as little as a charging cord I want the premium cord for charging a premium price. And the fact I spend so much warrants me to bitch about whatever I want...
I have noticed the final release of iOS 12 is making my battery drain faster on my X
See, the thing is, when you say "my workers" you're really saying "the shareholders' workers" because they own the company.
Who do you envision telling the owners to suck it, exactly?
Except moving to Android proves nothing as Android devices aren't paying for the OS; Google provides it FREE. They can choose to put a skin on, but don't have to. Meanwhile, iOS devices have to account for OS development in the price when Android phones generally do not; or very minimal just to maintain their skin. You also have Chinese companies like Oneplus who dont spend much on advertising, again, build into iphone cost.
R&D is a boatload of money. Stuff like Face ID cost tens of millions of dollars (or more) to develop. Why do you think Android phones are just not getting to that point of IR face unlock? They have the framework already to now copy. Why do you think many Android phones are iphone clones? Cheap design when you copy something in existence already and the parts to make it.
You are paying for more than the electronics that sit in front of your face.
Not saying theyre not overpriced by a little this year (a good $100 each) or corporate greed isn't a factor, but don't listen to the shills without putting some actual though what goes into the price first.
R&D is a boatload of money. Stuff like Face ID cost tens of millions of dollars (or more) to develop. Why do you think Android phones are just not getting to that point of IR face unlock? They have the framework already to now copy. Why do you think many Android phones are iphone clones? Cheap design when you copy something in existence already and the parts to make it.
You are paying for more than the electronics that sit in front of your face.
Not saying theyre not overpriced by a little this year (a good $100 each) or corporate greed isn't a factor, but don't listen to the shills without putting some actual though what goes into the price first.
Well obviously but the cost of making the phone is guesstimated to be $310-$400 I think. So in other words if you sell us a premium device you give us premium accessory’s and advance’s.
Those costs estimates are parts/assembly only. Not R&D, marketing, packaging, shipping, customer services, stores, employee.
Where do people think the money for those things comes from? From each device sold.
Sure go get a $600 Oneplus 6. It breaks where are you going to go get it serviced? What Oneplus store manned by Oneplus employees? What Oneplus store will they repair it same day? If your phone software crashes where do you bring it? Etc. There are sacrifices in price made; everything costs something to the end user. Same with Xiaomi, Poco, etc not to beat up on Oneplus.
Go read the Oneplus forums, you have to literally ship your phone to China, pay shipping and their repair and part fee, and ship it back. That could be weeks without your phone; if you use your phone for business you're SOL. And if you do use a local 3rd party repair shop then buh bye warranty.
If you dont care about anything after sale and only up front price, then sure, there is nothing "wrong" with those types of devices. Expect to add on some 3rd party warranty if they will even cover a device not really sold in the US, or expect to pay to repair it at some local shop and lose your warranty.
Again, I am not disagreeing iPhones are overpriced this year, but a LOT more goes into the price then people seem to think about. Apple doesnt give great customer service, operate staffed stores, in-store repairs, etc for free from the goodness of its heart; it costs money and users pay for it.
And let's not discount the higher resale value either. If that $1,000 phone is worth $700 after a year and that $600 phone is worth $300, who REALLY made out worse?
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I have a couple hesitations with the XR at this point, the first being the size as I've never been interested in the plus iPhones as I've found their size to be a bit much - it looks like the XR will be a bit smaller, but also a bit thicker, so I'll have to see and handle it for myself. Part of me thinks that maybe I should just accept that bigger phones is the direction everything is going and just get used to it (I was hesitant around switching from a 4" to 4.7" 3 years ago, but now think that size is perfect, so who knows). The second is whether or not Apple will be good at taking good portrait mode photos using a single lens camera (we know it is possible since the Google Pixel 2 line does it well, but it involves using AI and that hasn't historically been Apple's strong suit). I guess we'll see what I decide on Oct. 26th... I might just decide the XS is worth it if I can get 3-4 years out of it.
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Yeah, that's where I'm at. I kind of want a new phone for some of the new features (mostly the camera improvements) but since my 3 year old 6s is still running great I'm having a hard time justifying it. I guess that's a good problem to have...
Actually some rumors having them make an iPhone XE, 4.9” I think. To replace the SE. so you May be ok. I think 2020 tho...