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BBC News - High-end mobile phones to get flash in 2010!

Flash will be antiquated garbage by then. The only people still using it on their web pages will be the lazy ones...
 
I do not like how bloated and power hungry flash is, so I'm fine without it; HOWEVER, I really do wish apple is currently working on a workaround or a new flash based app that will put Adobe down to the ground for their next iphone
 
So Adobe Flash may be on the way out, but it is still VERY WIDELY used on the web today. I find it very disheartening that Apple won't support the new flash player (that now eliminates the performance demands that were supposedly keeping Apple from supporting Flash in the first place). It isn't like flash is new technology....Apple not having a browser to support flash is awful, just like not having MMS capabilities for 3 years after the iPhone came out (when that technology already existed for a few years prior). These are basic functions that the iPhone should have always supported.

I love my iPhone, but Apple frustrates me with their methods...and apparent ego.
 
I don't care if we get a Flash plug-in or we get much quicker HTML5 adoption, but we definitely need something because I'm getting tired of those blue question boxes on my iPhone. Seriously, this is a substantial pitfall in today's video-minded web and I hold Apple responsible for not addressing it. At the prices we pay for a iPhone contract we should expect the absolute best possible mobile web experience -- including easy and quick access to web videos.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpI6gA9cuME

Pretty cool demo video of flash player on the Pre. Flash will be available for all WebOS devices I believe by the end of the year is what Palm was shooting for. Regardless of if it's obsolete technology or not, it's still very popular and widely used so why not have it?
 
apple has the money and the resources to make flash run properly, but as usual, they will rape their customers for more revenue in app store..

flash=free games..

apple makes good products, but I'm starting to hate the "closed" attitude they have about EVERYTHING>.
 
johnnyjibbs said:
I think it will be interesting to see what Apple does here.

Apple needs to support technology like that in the future if it is to stay competitive. At the moment it appears to be counting on HTML5 features to become prominent.

But most websites use Flash (although more and more for video only, as most websites are returning to HTML, thankfully!) and people are genetically reluctant to embrace change.

Adobe, on the other hand, needs to keep Flash alive for its own bottom line. But it is obvious that Apple is uncomfortable with the power that yielding on this would bring to Adobe.

Problem is, how long will it be before the majority of Flash-based components in websites (mainly video) convert to another format, if ever?

Apple cannot afford to have the only smartphone not to be able to watch Flash videos on the web. Will it eventually buckle (like on USB 2.0 and FireWire) or use this opportunity to reduce web reliance on Flash in general?
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I think it is more than that. Apple completely closed mined to allowing 3rd party browsers to be installed on the iPhone. They will blocked it by claiming the same BS they did for google voice.

Example of some great 3rd party mobile browerse out there that will never see the light of day on the iPhone are, Opera mini, Bolt, and sky fire.
Opera and Bolt are out for all smart phones but the iPhone.

Sky Fire is in closed beta for Blackberries. Sky Fire also supports Flash.

The trick that Opera, Bolt and sky Fire do to help out the smart phones is to move the rendering load on to there own servers. AKA the phone does not handle the processing load of rendering the web sight so that really helps out.

Or course apple will not give away to those 3rd party add in. We already are starting to see apple closes system starting to hurt them as other smartphones OS are catching up and are much more open.
 
To be honest i really don't care about flash....if they do add it I want to be able to turn it off. I would hate to download more crap/bog my connection down than I have to....
 
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