Been using my Nexus 7 for about a month, guess I'm just an apple fan...

[ravenvii]

The Android-defenders here are hilarious. "You can tweak Android to your heart's desire! If you don't like Android, you must be dumb! That explains why you like a dumbed-down OS!"

I use iOS as my main mobile OS -- I have an iPhone 4S and a 3rd gen iPad.

I also have a Nexus 7, and quite like it. I bought it for learning Android development. It was well-built, the screen is good, and so forth.

However, I see the same issues as mentioned above. Android just isn't something I would use as a main mobile OS. And the funny thing is, my absolute biggest hold-up about Android? The bounce-back effect, or lack of. How scrolling just... stops is jarring and feels unnatural.

Apple hit gold with this one. Microsoft has a "close enough" execution that I can live with. But Android's just-stop-there isn't my thing.

So the Nexus 7 is exclusively a development device for me. I use the iPad for everything else. And I'm fine with that.

 

[Carlanga]

I think you just went head first expecting it to work the same way as iOS. IS a different OS even though they have similarities and you have to spend time w/ each to understand and do things the way you want.

 

[ReanimationN]

The Android-defenders here are hilarious. "You can tweak Android to your heart's desire! If you don't like Android, you must be dumb! That explains why you like a dumbed-down OS!"

I use iOS as my main mobile OS -- I have an iPhone 4S and a 3rd gen iPad.

I also have a Nexus 7, and quite like it. I bought it for learning Android development. It was well-built, the screen is good, and so forth.

However, I see the same issues as mentioned above. Android just isn't something I would use as a main mobile OS. And the funny thing is, my absolute biggest hold-up about Android? The bounce-back effect, or lack of. How scrolling just... stops is jarring and feels unnatural.

Apple hit gold with this one. Microsoft has a "close enough" execution that I can live with. But Android's just-stop-there isn't my thing.

So the Nexus 7 is exclusively a development device for me. I use the iPad for everything else. And I'm fine with that.

I can't handle that either, it really does feel horribly unnatural. Plus, it makes it hard to tell when you're scrolling down on a long page in a hurry when you've actually hit the bottom, the bounce-back effect is really good visual feedback to tell you you've reached the end of a page/list.

 

[tbayrgs]

And the funny thing is, my absolute biggest hold-up about Android? The bounce-back effect, or lack of. How scrolling just... stops is jarring and feels unnatural.

Apple hit gold with this one. Microsoft has a "close enough" execution that I can live with. But Android's just-stop-there isn't my thing.

I can't handle that either, it really does feel horribly unnatural. Plus, it makes it hard to tell when you're scrolling down on a long page in a hurry when you've actually hit the bottom, the bounce-back effect is really good visual feedback to tell you you've reached the end of a page/list.

I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

 

[GKDAIR]

Yeah it is weird how while scrolling on the Android platform it just kinda....stops.

It's very jarring. IOS kinda has that momentum thing going.

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Really you don't even need a launcher. A simple app like "image 2 wallpaper" is an easy solution for the op's issue.

I did research for several apps and NONE of them were able to do just a simple wallpaper.

I don't need my wallpaper to do 50 thousand things, I just wanted a simple wallpaper.

 

[ravenvii]

I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

Yes. I am serious.

What do I do a lot on a mobile OS? Scrolling through menus and webpages and documents.

For me, the scrolling does really make a difference. Maybe for you it doesn't, but for me it does.

If you have a problem with that, well, too bad.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Yeah it is weird how while scrolling on the Android platform it just kinda....stops.

It's very jarring. IOS kinda has that momentum thing going.

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I did research for several apps and NONE of them were able to do just a simple wallpaper.

I don't need my wallpaper to do 50 thousand things, I just wanted a simple wallpaper.

Really?

I just searched for non scrolling wallpaper in the play store and the first one listed does exactly what you want.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.twistedapps.wallpaperwizardrii

 

[tbayrgs]

Yes. I am serious.

What do I do a lot on a mobile OS? Scrolling through menus and webpages and documents.

For me, the scrolling does really make a difference. Maybe for you it doesn't, but for me it does.

If you have a problem with that, well, too bad.

You're absolutely right--choose whatever meets your needs. I won't argue because you can't argue preference. My mistake was not qualifying my statement that, in my opinion, it sounds ridiculous. To me, it's an equivalent statement to saying you prefer a car because the manufacturer included a really cool sound when you close the door--the normal sound is just too unnatural.

 

[Technarchy]

I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

It's the little things that make a positive user experience.

For example, something that seems really small, but is a big deal on iOS: Tap to top. I HATE scrolling to the top on android. iOS's tap to top is so freaking easy, convenient and really smart software design.

 

[ReanimationN]

I understand that everyone has preferences but, are you guys serious? You prefer a mobile OS because of a specific animation? Coming to the end of a long webpage by <gasp>, having the page just stop scrolling, because it's the end of the page, is 'jarring' and 'horribly unnatural'?

Wow.....really, just wow.

I'm sorry to sound harsh, but these are the types of comments that make Apple supporters look ridiculous.

Yeah, I do find it really jarring, it feels really unnatural to me for a touch-based UI to come to a sudden stop like that. It doesn't bother me when using a mouse on Windows, but it does when I can touch the content with my fingers. Apple doesn't have a monopoly on it though, MS' implementation of it in W8 and WP8 also feels perfectly fine to me, it's just the complete absence of it that feels unnatural.

If you want an example of something that feels/seems unnatural to me on an Apple device, the new borderless text buttons on iOS 7 are off-putting- along with the new white-heavy visual style. If you aren't already familiar with an app before it gets an iOS 7-style makeover, what you can and can't press, and where to press, isn't always immediately obvious. It isn't very hard to pick up, and I don't think many people will have too many troubles with it, but it's a step-down from how immediately accessible iOS was before.

 

[tbayrgs]

It's the little things that make a positive user experience.

For example, something that seems really small, but is a big deal on iOS: Tap to top. I HATE scrolling to the top on android. iOS's tap to top is so freaking easy, convenient and really smart software design.

I'll agree to a point. The little things refine the user experience, and can make a good experience great, but it's the big things that make the user experience.

I also love the tap to top functionality in Safari--but that's a feature offering added functionality. It allows you to navigate more quickly--and it's needed in iOS because scrolling is painfully slow compared to browsers in Android. The 'bounce effect' is pure aesthetics, nothing more. When the other poster said that the way scrolling just ended in Android felt 'unnatural' I had to laugh because, in nature, when you come to the end of something--it naturally just stops.

Again, there is no right or wrong because, it's all preference. Some people place greater emphasis on form, others on function.

 

[mKTank]

Isn't the bouncing animation not included because it was patented by Apple? I mean, even Microsoft had to sort or get around it by making the window stretch a bit and therefore make it just different enough.

Still, I much prefer the glow effect over bounce back personally.

 

[ReanimationN]

When the other poster said that the way scrolling just ended in Android felt 'unnatural' I had to laugh because, in nature, when you come to the end of something--it naturally just stops.

Again, there is no right or wrong because, it's all preference. Some people place greater emphasis on form, others on function.

Not necessarily. It reminds me of the way a legrope works in surfing- once it reaches the end of its tether, it stretches slightly, then bounces back at you. Or bending a tree branch towards/away from you, it behaves in much the same way.

 

[blackhand1001]

That's right from the title, I don't think you're an apple fans it simpilly because android tablets are rubbish.
Android fans recommend me (ex android fan fan) whythe N7 was better than any tablets.

My biggest disappointments came, initial impressions, large screen, build quality seems ok for the price. Disappointments lots

"iOS on tablets is just a blown up version of the iPhone", same for jelly bean when google removed the tab UI, worse thing is, iOS has evenly spaced out icons that makes it tablet friendly, androids icons are not too well spaced and plus the widgets don't fill lithe screen like it does on a phone.

"Android is better, more customisable" yes but phone customistions makes any tablet look bad

"Android has better processor = better performance than icrap", 100% not true. 3rd party android apps (from video) has way slower loading times than a iPhone 2g. That doesn't matter me as much on a phone as it does on a large screen tablet.

"Nexus 7 has 12 times better graphics than the iPad Mini" not true the iPad's dual core powervr sgx543mp2 has about x1.8 more raw horses and in combination with Ioses optimisations it a big plus. iOS devices tend to have smoother graphics at higher graphics setting despite slower hardware, android is the opposite, most low graphics game now lags with last years flagship.

tHD effects are just gimmick

Now I am reatively unbiased, I tend to like any device, android windows phone ios

Bullcrap on the graphics in the iPad mini being faster. The nexus 7 2013 scores like 5-6 times faster on gl benchmark on Egypt HD and trex HD offscreen and onscreen. The nexus 7 is also better optimized as it has open gl 3 support which the mini does not even though it could.

 

[kenypowa]

Secondly is a personal complaint, but I could never find widgets to match any themes I was going for with my Nexus 7. I'm a bit neurotic, and certain things just have to be certain ways. I don't understand how Android could give me the freedom to do anything, and yet I cannot decide on anything. IOS was so restricted but at least it was uniform and everything matched.

The freedom of choice be damned. There are too many fast food restaurants in the States, why not move to North Korea where there is no food and everyone looks so thin and starving

 

[appledes7]

Still, I much prefer the glow effect over bounce back personally.

When I have people use my Nexus 4 or 7, they think the phone is lagging because nothing is happening. The glow effect just doesn't do much. They need to exaggerate it significantly for it to truly serve the purpose of telling people they are at the end of a web page or list. It is just way too subtle.

 

[fredaroony]

Lol. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Again, I'm not saying I don't like Android or that I don't like my Nexus 7, but I just find it frustrating that I can't do some simple basic things on Android that I could do on IOS without the need to install 3rd party software.

There's absolutely no need I should be forced to download a 3rd party launcher just to get my wallpaper the way I prefer. It should be a default option, and it wouldn't be hard to add in.

What basic things?

 

[mKTank]

When I have people use my Nexus 4 or 7, they think the phone is lagging because nothing is happening. The glow effect just doesn't do much. They need to exaggerate it significantly for it to truly serve the purpose of telling people they are at the end of a web page or list. It is just way too subtle.

Yeah that's true. It's a really cool effect but does need to be turned up a bit.

 

[Timely7]

This is because of the way some apps do notifications, or so I've heard. But also because many apps are always running in the background. That also contributes to battery drain. You will never see an Android device with the same battery capacity as an iPhone that gets the same battery life. Android devices just need larger batteries to compete. I also have a theory as to how larger screens got started. Android manufacturers couldn't get good battery life out of their devices in sizes similar to the iPhone. So they had 2 options: Thicker or wider/taller. If it was thicker, the argument could be made against the phone because people like thin phones. If it was wider/taller, it would allow for a bigger screen and could be used as a point against the iPhone.


Which ones in particular? I don't uninstall apps from the home screen, I uninstall from my app drawer. If they aren't showing up there, check your apps inside settings. If not there, check Google Play and search for the app. If a box says "open" or "uninstall" then it is installed. Otherwise there will just be a box that says "install" meaning you don't have it on your device.


Google now is definitely over-hyped on here. It isn't hands free and isn't as easy to use as Siri. Try sending a text, making a calendar event, sending an email, or setting a reminder. All of which require touch input. Google Now won't speak what you said to make sure you got it right, and it won't allow you to just say "yes" to create an event or send an email. It requires touch input, effectively meaning it is not a hands free assistant. But you can't say that around these forums or people will get mad. So shhhhhhhhhhhh

Wow you are soooo right! It makes perfect sense now why Android manufacturers go for the bigger screen phones!!! Because they couldnt compete with the iPhone in the 3.5-4" smartphone market!

 

[thelezzy]

Bullcrap on the graphics in the iPad mini being faster. The nexus 7 2013 scores like 5-6 times faster on gl benchmark on Egypt HD and trex HD offscreen and onscreen. The nexus 7 is also better optimized as it has open gl 3 support which the mini does not even though it could.

Did I say Nexus 7 2013?
I said Nexus 7 (original name for 2012)
PowerVR SGXMP variants will get firmware update to support OpenGL 3.0

No Nexus 7 isn't more optimised... Hint it's android
ART is just catching up, fragmentation is another

 

[haxrnick]

Sounds like just about everyone ITT doesn't know how to Android.

 

[AAPLinc]

It's the little things that make a positive user experience.

For example, something that seems really small, but is a big deal on iOS: Tap to top. I HATE scrolling to the top on android. iOS's tap to top is so freaking easy, convenient and really smart software design.

This doesn't take away from Android OS, though. It's something that YOU appreciate but something that I have NEVER used on my iPhone.

Classic iOS vs Android debate. Everyone thinks that their opinion is a fact. Blah blah blah. The only thing I can admit that iOS has better, is app selection. And Android is closing the gap and catching up. In MY opinion, since we are all giving out opinions, iOS is boring as hell on a tablet. I love iOS on my phone, but Android feels better on a tablet. I like having both platforms. That's why I have a 5S and a Nexus 7. Again, my opinion. I don't expect nor care for anyone to agree.

And people that hate the (2013) Nexus 7, keep hating. It's a entry level PRICED tablet that offers top of the line performance and is in competition with tablets and iPads that are DOUBLE it's price. That says a lot about the product. If you don't like it, great you don't own one, so move on. Those that own them don't give a sh_t if you don't like it, because we are enjoying the hell out of it. Stop trying to rain on our parade. Our $230 tablet gives your $400 tablet a run for it's money, that's gotta hurt a bit.