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[cube]

Are passive 3D TV's available to buy here currently? Best Buy shows a $60,000 4K 3D TV...that will do wonders with a typical family.

If we get to CES right away next year with yet another year of no new 3D TVs being announced, the writing is on the wall for this format as it currently exists. People should obviously go ahead and enjoy their current 3D set ups - but 3D isn't going anywhere here now

I saw passive TVs in amazon.com, but I think no 3D launched in the US this year. There's no HDR10+ yet, so no problem (at least if they got an HLG upgrade).

That said, Amazon does not always have the best prices.

Passive glasses are light and cheap, you can find clip ons, and the displays are normally circularly polarized so you can bring them to RealD cinemas (but not to IMAX 3D, which is linearly polarized).

The glasses that came with my ASUS monitor were better than the ones I could buy at the theater, so I would use them for RealD.

 

[JuliusCaesar]

LG OLEDs I recommend. I've had one for a year and a half now and I'm still amazed by its picture quality. They are great.

 

[archer75]

Sony OLED is nice. I have an LG OLED which is great. Vizio is a great LCD. All of these support dolby vision which is why they're the only ones i'd recommend.

For those that don't know, Sony OLED panels are LG panels. Essentially when you buy Sony you're buying a LG TV with a sony controller on it.

 

[mattopotamus]

Sony OLED is nice. I have an LG OLED which is great. Vizio is a great LCD. All of these support dolby vision which is why they're the only ones i'd recommend.

For those that don't know, Sony OLED panels are LG panels. Essentially when you buy Sony you're buying a LG TV with a sony controller on it.

I’ll add how little value Dolby Vision adds right now, especially for disc. There are issues with letterboxes and lip sync. Also the difference between HDR10 and DV is extremely difficult to notice.

The advantage right now is VUDU only supports DV.

I actually force my Oppo to use HDR10 becuase of the issues with DV on disc.

 

[archer75]

I’ll add how little value Dolby Vision adds right now, especially for disc. There are issues with letterboxes and lip sync. Also the difference between HDR10 and DV is extremely difficult to notice.

The advantage right now is VUDU only supports DV.

Netflix and amazon support dolby vision as well. I can certainly notice a difference. And i'm not aware of any lip sync issues either.

If you are in the market for a TV it's best to get the one that supports the most technology so it lasts you longer.

 

[cube]

If you are in the market for a TV it's best to get the one that supports the most technology so it lasts you longer.

That means at least $4000 for a 2016 signature LG OLED.

 

[mattopotamus]

Netflix and amazon support dolby vision as well. I can certainly notice a difference. And i'm not aware of any lip sync issues either.

If you are in the market for a TV it's best to get the one that supports the most technology so it lasts you longer.

The issues I was mentioning are strictly disc. Netflix and amazon also support HDR10. VUDU only supports DV. Have you compared HDR10 to DV? Even experts essentially have to freeze frame to see a difference.

 

[archer75]

That means at least $4000 for a 2016 signature LG OLED.

Mine was less than $3000, 65" B6. But even a much cheaper vizio supports both Dolby Vision and HDR.
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The issues I was mentioning are strictly disc. Netflix and amazon also support HDR10. VUDU only supports DV. Have you compared HDR10 to DV? Even expects essentially have to freeze frame to see a difference.

I have compared. And it does indeed depend on the source material and the particular TV you are viewing on(sony, LG, Vizio).

 

[McScooby]

I'd love to get the Sony A1, but at the mo the price is way too high, maybe wait til next year when it ships w/Atmos & hopefully competing formats have settled somewhat, in the meantime no OLED for me, just the cheapest 10-bit LED I can find I suppose!

 

[cube]

Mine was less than $3000, 65" B6. But even a much cheaper vizio supports both Dolby Vision and HDR.

Are they also 3D?

 

[vipergts2207]

Are they also 3D?

No, but 3D is going the way of the dodo, for now at least.

 

[cube]

No, but 3D is going the way of the dodo, for now at least.

It is not going away, they still release many 3D movies at the cinema and 3D Blu Ray.

 

[archer75]

Are they also 3D?

One of the 2016 models is, yes. And if you can find any left in stores you could probably get a great deal.

 

[vipergts2207]

It is not going away, they still release many 3D movies at the cinema and 3D Blu Ray.

Even if that's the case, unless consumers can buy the televisions that enable the watching of those Blu-Rays, the market for them will flat line at best. If 3D doesn't make a comeback at CES in 2018 in a few months, the market is then likely going to decline.

 

[cube]

Even if that's the case, unless consumers can buy the televisions that enable the watching of those Blu-Rays, the market for them will flat line at best. If 3D doesn't make a comeback at CES in 2018 in a few months, the market is then likely going to decline.

It is the US who is seeing a lack of 3DTVs, not the whole rest of the world.

If people don't have 3DTVs at home, this motivates studios to make even more 3D movies.

 

[vipergts2207]

It is the US who is seeing a lack of 3DTVs, not the whole rest of the world.

Where are all of these non-US 3D TV's? For the most part, generally TV manufacturers launch the same TVs everywhere and give them different model names in different countries. For instance, the Sony X900E in the US is known as the XE90 in the UK.

If people don't have 3DTVs at home, this motivates studios to make even more 3D movies.

Huh?

 

[cube]

Where are all of these non-US 3D TV's? For the most part, generally TV manufacturers launch the same TVs everywhere and give them different model names in different countries. For instance, the Sony X900E in the US is known as the XE90 in the UK.



Huh?

This year there were at least 24-27 3D models released in Europe alone, all but one 4K.

Variations in Europe could be more than a manual or power cable, as there used to be different audio standards with analog TV for example.

If people don't have 3D at home, there's a greater chance that they will go to the cinema to watch the original version. The studio can still sell UHD Blu Rays to people without 3DTVs, and Blu Ray 3D to people that have them.

 

[vipergts2207]

This year there were at least 24-27 3D models released in Europe alone, all but one 4K.

Variations in Europe could be more than a manual or power cable, as there used to be different audio standards with analog TV for example.

If people don't have 3D at home, there's a greater chance that they will go to the cinema to watch the original version. The studio can still sell UHD Blu Rays to people without 3DTVs, and Blu Ray 3D to people that have them.

Which specific manufacturers? I poked around CNET France a bit, but couldn't find any 2017 3D TV's.

 

[Strelok]

These guys are pretty good for reviews of TV's. http://www.rtings.com/tv

 

[Weaselboy]

That means at least $4000 for a 2016 signature LG OLED.

They have actually dropped quite a bit below that. LG has this minimum advertised pricing policy they enforce on dealers, so all you see advertised is full MSRP. But if you hang out places like avsforums you can find LG authorized vendors selling for much less. I bought an LG C7 65 inch (2017 model) last month for $2,700 delivered to my front door, so the deals are out there.

If you are shopping, I can PM you the info.

 

[cube]

Which specific manufacturers? I poked around CNET France a bit, but couldn't find any 2017 3D TV's.

16 Panasonic, 1 LG, and then several lower tier European brands.
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They have actually dropped quite a bit below that. LG has this minimum advertised pricing policy they enforce on dealers, so all you see advertised is full MSRP. But if you hang out places like avsforums you can find LG authorized vendors selling for much less. I bought an LG C7 65 inch (2017 model) last month for $2,700 delivered to my front door, so the deals are out there.

If you are shopping, I can PM you the info.

Only one 2017 LG model is 3D, and it is IPS.

I already have a 3D HDR quantum dot 4K TV, thanks.

 

[vipergts2207]

16 Panasonic, 1 LG, and then several lower tier European brands.

Sounds like slim pickings with only two major manufacturers supporting it, and just 1 from LG at that. Be interesting to see if Panasonic includes 3D or not next year.

 

[cube]

Sounds like slim pickings with only two major manufacturers supporting it, and just 1 from LG at that. Be interesting to see if Panasonic includes 3D or not next year.

LG got 2 change.org petitions: one to bring 3D in 2018, and another for an Atmos upgrade.

 

[Weaselboy]

Only one 2017 LG model is 3D, and it is IPS.

I'm sorry... I misunderstood you were commenting specifically about 3D.

 

[Spankey]

LG OLED's, specifically this year's C7. Get it calibrated as well. Nothing comes close except maybe the Sony's OLED's but they are over priced.