Best bang for buck point and shoot?

[TheDrift-]

I was thinking what the hell is he on... then I saw it.... now I cannot un-see it... genius!

ha ha i saw this pretty quickly...not sure thats a good thing tho...good spot

 

[fathergll]

Try selling a Lumix versus a D-Lux and you will see that the Leitz will have cost you no more than the Panasonic

Not sure why you would need to resell the camera that you just purchased but last I checked a 9 condition D-Lux was $850 and a Lumix was $530 at B and H. The Leica is losing 19% and the Panasonic is losing 24%. Problem is the Leica costs more to begin with so you are losing $200 and $170 for the Panasonic. You still have to lay out over $1k for the Leica new.

And don't forget that it comes with Lightroom and is a better camera

Yes I understand it has Lightroom. That’s only factors in if the OP is going to purchase Lightroom.


Is it a better camera? Probably. There are internet debates on it all the time so it’s not a clear cut answer since they share the same internals and underlying tech.

That's bang for your buck

One camera is $350 cheaper no matter how you slice it. Im going with that camera for bang for buck. This will vary depending on factors. If I’m buying Lightroom then yes the price difference drops.

a used LX100 is currently less than a new one ny about the same amount as is the case with the Leica, but when it is superceded the LX100 it will have dropped the greater amount since it does not have the same lasting appeal and there is lower supply and therefore altermatives for your used Leica.

You need to post actual data showing this. I’m a numbers guy.

 

[LiveM]

Not sure why you would need to resell the camera that you just purchased but last I checked a 9 condition D-Lux was $850 and a Lumix was $530 at B and H. The Leica is losing 19% and the Panasonic is losing 24%. Problem is the Leica costs more to begin with so you are losing $200 and $170 for the Panasonic. You still have to lay out over $1k for the Leica new.

The Leica was $1200 new so based on what you have found the loss is $350; the Lumix was $900 new so the loss is $370. I also believe that once these models are obsolete, which is when the OP is likely to sell it, the difference will be more pronounced.

You only have to lay out about $300 more for the Leica, including Lightroom which you can sell. The OP strikes me as a guy who appreciates beauty, quality and heritage, so I think he would get a lot of pleasure from a Leica, not to mention the gorgeous cases and other accessories.

You need to post actual data showing this. I’m a numbers guy.

There are currently used versions of each model on B&H. That's what I used to check it out.

 

[fathergll]

The Leica was $1200 new so based on what you have found the loss is $350; the Lumix was $900 new so the loss is $370. I also believe that once these models are obsolete, which is when the OP is likely to sell it, the difference will be more pronounced.

The D-Lux is $1050 new (Source B&H + Amazon)
The Lumix is $700 new (Source B&H + Amazon)

The D-Lux is $850 used 9 condition (Source B&H)
The Lumix is $530 used 9 condition (Source B&H)

D-Lux lost $200
Lumix lost $170

You only have to lay out about $300 more for the Leica, including Lightroom which you can sell. The OP strikes me as a guy who appreciates beauty, quality and heritage, so I think he would get a lot of pleasure from a Leica, not to mention the gorgeous cases and other accessories.

Only $300 more? The OP is looking to purchase a camera in the $300-$400 range.

OP strikes me as a guy who is dipping his feet into photography and isn't looking to spend $1,000 in the process.

 

[Crazy Badger]

You can get a brand new EOS-M on Amazon for less than $500. For another $100 you can get the EOS-M Mk3 which is reported to have much better AF speed and the same sensor as a 750d.

It's good to know there are examples of tech being cheaper in the UK, at least as far as the old Mk1 model go

 

[LiveM]

The D-Lux is $1050 new (Source B&H + Amazon)
The Lumix is $700 new (Source B&H + Amazon)

The D-Lux is $850 used 9 condition (Source B&H)
The Lumix is $530 used 9 condition (Source B&H)

D-Lux lost $200
Lumix lost $170

You're looking at the current new prices, not the prices paid for the ones now being resold, but nevertheless the D-Lux will be the first to sell. Panasonic has dropped its new price not only by a greater amount, but also a much greater percentage, which undermines the used value.

Only $300 more? The OP is looking to purchase a camera in the $300-$400 range.

OP strikes me as a guy who is dipping his feet into photography and isn't looking to spend $1,000 in the process.

You assume too much. A luxury, once sampled, becomes a necessity.

 

[fathergll]

You're looking at the current new prices, not the prices paid for the ones now being resold, but nevertheless the D-Lux will be the first to sell. Panasonic has dropped its new price not only by a greater amount, but also a much greater percentage, which undermines the used value.

The D-Lux on average is selling used on ebay $710-$730.

The Lumix on average is selling used on ebay $475-$500

You assume too much. A luxury, once sampled, becomes a necessity.

Instead of quoting random dictums lets ask the OP.




Rob587, What is your budget for the camera you are looking to purchase?/How much are you looking to spend?

 

[LiveM]

So again, the Leica ultimately costs no more. You really are a numbers guy! Initial budget is usually arbitray and subject to discovery when investigating the unfamiliar.

 

[fathergll]

You need more money to purchase the Leica. Therefore the Leica costs more money. You're welcome.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082942-REG/leica_18471_d_lux_109_digital_camera.html
Leica - $1,051.60

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082158-REG/panasonic_lumix_dmc_lx100_digital_camera.html
Panasonic - $697.99

 

[LiveM]

You lose more money if you purchase the Lumix. Therefore the Lumix costs more money. The Leica is more of an investment.

 

[pattymeboy]

I'm sure the answer changes often, so I'm asking here.

I mainly photograph watches, but also occasional pics of the family, landscapes etc. I just want something that can take incredible photos easily. I'm tired of the average images my iPhone 6+ takes.

I love the quality I see from people who use DSLRs, but I'm assuming there are some point and shoots capable of comparable quality these days, right? I just want easy. Also, compact is nice for traveling.

Rob, Take a look at the Ricoh GR or GRii , APSC sensor, excellent 28mm fixed lense, that matches just about any of the best prime lens out there. I have owned mine for over two years and some of the photos taken with it are stunning, almost
DSLR like. That is my humble opinion

 

[mojo522]

I have a Sony a6000, mirror less with a prime lens. It is actually pretty small, and it takes beautiful pics.

 

[iTiki]

Check out the fuji X70

 

[StoneJack]

I'm sure the answer changes often, so I'm asking here.

I mainly photograph watches, but also occasional pics of the family, landscapes etc. I just want something that can take incredible photos easily. I'm tired of the average images my iPhone 6+ takes.

I love the quality I see from people who use DSLRs, but I'm assuming there are some point and shoots capable of comparable quality these days, right? I just want easy. Also, compact is nice for traveling.

Nikon P340 (i have earlier P310, an incredible model)

 

[Ramsbottom]

I'm sure the answer changes often, so I'm asking here.

I mainly photograph watches, but also occasional pics of the family, landscapes etc. I just want something that can take incredible photos easily. I'm tired of the average images my iPhone 6+ takes.

I love the quality I see from people who use DSLRs, but I'm assuming there are some point and shoots capable of comparable quality these days, right? I just want easy. Also, compact is nice for traveling.

I have both the Sony RX100 mII and the Panasonic LK100 .Both excellent.See both and feel which suits you.PS I also have a Sony A7RII setup.

 

[davew41]

I'm sure the answer changes often, so I'm asking here.

I mainly photograph watches, but also occasional pics of the family, landscapes etc. I just want something that can take incredible photos easily. I'm tired of the average images my iPhone 6+ takes.

I love the quality I see from people who use DSLRs, but I'm assuming there are some point and shoots capable of comparable quality these days, right? I just want easy. Also, compact is nice for traveling.

your cell phone cameras are better most times then point and shoots, spend a few bucks get yourself a nikon d3300 kit and be done with it if you are never planning on shooting sports you will be fine.. not worth messing around with point and shoots..

 

[compasiune11]

The best bank for the buck is canon sx 50, great super mega zoom. Image quality is ok.