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Best Note Talking App for iPad Pro and Apple Pencil?
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I haven't noticed any issues with the iPad Pro res. What issues were you having?
I prefer the look of the inking on Notes Plus over OneNote, but as I mentioned, we use shared notebooks across multiple platforms for projects (so project team members can see what has occurred in meetings, decisions made etc). That's where OneNote has strengths (shared to a SharePoint project that all users can access), but the OneNote functionality is terrible for handwriting in IOS.
For me, I use 2 note taking apps, Notability and GoodNotes.
I use them for different purposes. I think each has their own strengths and each have weaknesses. I really wish I could use only 1, but I can't make it work with just one. This is the list for me
Notability Pros:
-Good for typed notes, WAY better than the others I have tried and GoodNotes has nothing on Notability with all the options for favourite fonts/colours, and of course rich text formatting
-looks way better as far as UI in my opinion
-can record notes
-when importing thought share sheet or otherwise, can choose where the import goes
-like the features such as adding figures, pictures, rotating, and even sticky notes (however, why the heck no eraser on the figure tool! Beats me)
-better organization UI
-like all of the colour and pen options at my finger (or pen) tips
GoodNotes Pros:
-love the way it works with Apple pencil, absolutely no stray marks! Great for when I am marking up exam notes with patients, no more mistakes or strays!
-can export individual pages to wherever. You don't have to choose the whole file, this is extremely handy
-better looking rendering of handwriting (anything to make my terrible writing somewhat legible)
-better integration of zoom window for writing
So overall, for my practice and patient files, I definately use Good Notes, mostly due to the export feature and the ability to play with files and pages within a notebook or document. I also find PDF markup better with GoodNotes. I hope it looks better in the future.
I use Notability for all of my typewritten and handwritten notes, so many more options. To be fair, GoodNotes said they are working on rich text editing for an update pretty soon. Having a choice, I would like to see GoodNotes improve and I would support them mostly because I find the support much better with GoodNotes. Gingerlabs in my opinon doesn't have much support. Anytime I have emailed a question or concern, I get nothing back from them. GoodNotes has responded every time, that tells me a lot about a developer. I tend to support those developers that support their clients.
I use them for different purposes. I think each has their own strengths and each have weaknesses. I really wish I could use only 1, but I can't make it work with just one. This is the list for me
Notability Pros:
-Good for typed notes, WAY better than the others I have tried and GoodNotes has nothing on Notability with all the options for favourite fonts/colours, and of course rich text formatting
-looks way better as far as UI in my opinion
-can record notes
-when importing thought share sheet or otherwise, can choose where the import goes
-like the features such as adding figures, pictures, rotating, and even sticky notes (however, why the heck no eraser on the figure tool! Beats me)
-better organization UI
-like all of the colour and pen options at my finger (or pen) tips
GoodNotes Pros:
-love the way it works with Apple pencil, absolutely no stray marks! Great for when I am marking up exam notes with patients, no more mistakes or strays!
-can export individual pages to wherever. You don't have to choose the whole file, this is extremely handy
-better looking rendering of handwriting (anything to make my terrible writing somewhat legible)
-better integration of zoom window for writing
So overall, for my practice and patient files, I definately use Good Notes, mostly due to the export feature and the ability to play with files and pages within a notebook or document. I also find PDF markup better with GoodNotes. I hope it looks better in the future.
I use Notability for all of my typewritten and handwritten notes, so many more options. To be fair, GoodNotes said they are working on rich text editing for an update pretty soon. Having a choice, I would like to see GoodNotes improve and I would support them mostly because I find the support much better with GoodNotes. Gingerlabs in my opinon doesn't have much support. Anytime I have emailed a question or concern, I get nothing back from them. GoodNotes has responded every time, that tells me a lot about a developer. I tend to support those developers that support their clients.
It doesn't natively support the iPad Pro's resolution. It's a scaled-up standard iPad app - at least it was last time I used it and I don't see tha it's been updated (yet) in the release notes.
Handwriting is fine for me with the Apple pencil. Only thing is it's not as fine writing as apple notes app, doesn't support pressure sensitivity, and there is a noticeable lag with ink stroke vs stock notes app the lag is almost unnoticeable.
With that said, I'll repeat what I said earlier. The one note app has not been updated yet to support iPad pro and Apple pencil and it's only on version 2 compared to some of the other apps they'd been out longer and on version 4 or 5. I'm sure the next update will me a major one to support the iPad pro and pencil as well as new features.
Penultimate by the Evernote guys just got an upgrade tonight with specific Pencil support and iPad Pro & multitasking/split screen support.
IMO it's the vectorization going on, meaning your scribbles are converted into polylines.
The "correction feeling" is less, the larger you write - which can be defined by dragging (scaling) the zoombox or on the screen itself.
Furthermore, the stylus can make a difference. Since GoodNotes has adapted to the Apple Pencil, it seems like this affected my Lynktec Apex in a way that it's no longer usable. Example: writing "E" will result in a "L" in about 90% of the cases. I switched to a Bamboo 3rd Gen: problem solved ;-)
Got to be Goodnotes for me, combined with ithoughts...I'm a teacher and these provide a great work flow for me... Goodnotes is amazing...I'm only waiting for a ruler, hyperlinks and continuous scrolling and then it will be the perfect app...pretty close already though
I can't believe continuous vertical scrolling is not a standard feature, yet. I was trying to import (really, to copy) a long note from Evernote into GoodNotes and was unable to see any part of the original note that went below the GoodNotes page line. Maybe I'm missing an easy way to do this, but without an ability to extend a page, vertically, I can't see how this app could serve as an Evernote app replacement. Granted, I'm thinking more "knowledge management" here and less "hand-written notes in class" so maybe this isn't in the GoodNotes vision. For my purposes, I'd like one place where I can go to digitize and save all the information in my life, whether it be scanned manuals/instructions, web pages of interest, technical support documents, images, handwritten or typed notes, pictures taken, etc.
I used goodnotes for years and while I'm not anymore as I moved to a Surface Pro for my handwritten notes and now use OneNote, I can't see how Goodnotes would be a great replacement for either of those as far as aggregating data goes. It's an awesome paper replacement, an awesome digital notebook to take notes in and insert a picture or pdf to mark-up, but no way would I use it over OneNote or Evernote for more sprawling digital collections.
That's great perspective, zhenya. Thank you! I just started playing around with GoodNotes. Evernote is getting bloated and I was hoping to find another knowledge management app that can do it all, but that is a tall order.
I bounced back and forth between OneNote and Evernote for years, and have finally consolidated everything into OneNote which I feel is easier to use, more flexible, and advancing faster. For any of these note taking apps, I feel like an important part is that the app is likely to be supported for a long period of time. I'm confident of that with those two apps, but less so with all these smaller apps. Goodnotes is great, and I'd probably use it again if I get another iPad with a stylus, but I still had all my notebooks automatically backed up as PDF's to Dropbox.
I actually find the best is to use both.
Evernote is like my junk drawer. Every random bit of information goes into that. The Web Clipping is great, searching etc.
OneNote is like my file cabinet. Nice and structured, organized, labeled, etc.
There's a lot of random info in Evernote that I wouldn't really want cluttering up OneNote, plus I find evernotes ability to keep everything as individual notes instead of tediously categorizing them is one of its best features.
On the IPP notetaking side I'm bouncing between goodnotes and onenote. I've also been playing with Penultimate because it syncs so well with evernote and I love all of the paper templates it has.
In goodnotes, I like how I can set the eraser to auto disable after use.
How do you get info into Evernote and OneNote? Do you physically put it in both places?
Evernote is mostly stuff that's WebClipped. When I order something and the confirmation screen comes up, I'll clip that, when I get gift cards I'll take a photo of them so I have the barcode that's scannable. All kinds of misc stuff like that. It's really handy for software serial keys and download links.
OneNote is where I do a lot of my IPP w/Pencil Inking. In outlook for instance, there is a OneNote plug in, so when I'm about to have a meeting, I'll go into outlook to the appt, click the OneNote Icon and it pushes the meeting with details to OneNote, then I hop over to onenote and can start taking notes and I have all my meeting info and attendees already there. That also works for emails. Someone will send me an email and I'll call them about it, so I'll add my ink notes below the email that gets pushed over from OneNote. I will also add research I do, copy/pasting web text or adding pdf links.
I find OneNote best for organizing and inking, and Evernote for misc stuff that doesn't need to be organized.
Another example, I just got a new Health Insurance ID Card, I took a photo of it and put it in Evernote. If I ever go to the doctors office, I can easily find that in Evernote. I wouldn't want to go through the trouble to try and categorize that in OneNote, it would add too much time.
do not know if this is the most recent post regarding note taking apps for iPad pro
but I just got my new Pro 9.7 with the pencil, and I would like to know if some of these apps allows you to take notes both typing and handwriting, but then allows you also to insert text o stuff within the previous text, thus "shifting" forward what remains under it!
I know it is difficult to explain in words, but it is something real natural, at least in word processing programs!
Imagine you forgot to write something in the previous chapter, and you're writing with the Pencil. In notability you cannot just insert text where you want, because you should reorganize all the pages by yourself via cut and paste!
any help?
but I just got my new Pro 9.7 with the pencil, and I would like to know if some of these apps allows you to take notes both typing and handwriting, but then allows you also to insert text o stuff within the previous text, thus "shifting" forward what remains under it!
I know it is difficult to explain in words, but it is something real natural, at least in word processing programs!
Imagine you forgot to write something in the previous chapter, and you're writing with the Pencil. In notability you cannot just insert text where you want, because you should reorganize all the pages by yourself via cut and paste!
any help?
I've used ZoomNotes for years, and with the iPP and Pencil, it's even better. Buttery smooth, no lag. No need to pull up the wrist guard.
do not know if this is the most recent post regarding note taking apps for iPad pro
but I just got my new Pro 9.7 with the pencil, and I would like to know if some of these apps allows you to take notes both typing and handwriting, but then allows you also to insert text o stuff within the previous text, thus "shifting" forward what remains under it!
I know it is difficult to explain in words, but it is something real natural, at least in word processing programs!
Imagine you forgot to write something in the previous chapter, and you're writing with the Pencil. In notability you cannot just insert text where you want, because you should reorganize all the pages by yourself via cut and paste!
any help?
You explained it well.
I don't know of any that do what you are asking. Since these note taking apps simulate writing/typing on paper, and you can't do that on paper, then neither can these apps.
If you think about the computational power needed to insert some space in a note that could be many pages long with embedded graphics and pdfs, that's a lot of stuff moving around. Not impossible but it's not something I've seen on the iPad.
I have seen that in OneNote for the desktop, there is a special function to "insert space" that does exactly what you are saying, but I have not seen that ability anywhere else yet. Although there are a lot of smart people here so maybe someone else can chime in that knows about this.
I do know that both GoodNotes (my primary) and Notability (also great) continue to add new features, especially now with the iPad Pro and Pencil, so maybe it is something that might be coming.
do not know if this is the most recent post regarding note taking apps for iPad pro
but I just got my new Pro 9.7 with the pencil, and I would like to know if some of these apps allows you to take notes both typing and handwriting, but then allows you also to insert text o stuff within the previous text, thus "shifting" forward what remains under it!
I know it is difficult to explain in words, but it is something real natural, at least in word processing programs!
Imagine you forgot to write something in the previous chapter, and you're writing with the Pencil. In notability you cannot just insert text where you want, because you should reorganize all the pages by yourself via cut and paste!
any help?
As a follow up, it appears OneNote allows you to do this.
I have a note with several lines of handwriting. I'm able to tap with my finger to place the "insert carat" between two lines and hit the enter key a few times to create additional blank lines and everything below it gets shifted down.
Since you have a nice list there, here's a couple of more points.
GoodNotes:
Can export a page as an image. Notability can share as a PDF, but sometimes sharing as an image is much more useful.
Can make the erase auto disable after use, so as soon as you erase something the pen is active again, one less tap.
Easy to insert pages at the beginning. I have a notebook where the first page is the most current page. So each day I just open that notebook, swipe the page right, and a new page gets inserted automatically.
Paper options, lots of paper options that are great.
Backup to DropBox happens realtime. This has turned out to be important. When you are taking notes, after a brief period, GoodNotes will export that as a PDF to DropBox. You don't have to exit your note first. Notability only does it when you exit. A lot of times I won't leave a note since I'm in the middle of taking notes, get distracted by something and never "exit" the note properly. Having GoodNotes do backups without having to exit has been great.
Notability:
The organizational structure is just great. I really, really wish GoodNotes would allow you to pin the category list to make jumping around notes easier.
thank you really so much for your complete and precise answers!
In fact, I was already going to convince myself that OneNote does what I need, and in fact I just bought 1y subscription for MsOffice!
Now I just need some time to try it!!
Now I have to give OneNote a good workout. I purchased Notability quite some time back and reinstalled it yesterday to see if I could use it. I thought it was nice that they offer so many papers, but really...for taking notes all you need is space to write. I did not like that I couldn't get the line thickness any thinner. I use a fine point pen because I don't like thick lines.
I immediately went back to ZoomNotes, which has all the other functionality (Dropbox sync, pdf or jpg, etc.), but allows you total control over line size.
I immediately went back to ZoomNotes, which has all the other functionality (Dropbox sync, pdf or jpg, etc.), but allows you total control over line size.