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What spec should I pick on the iMac 5k?

Let's not worry about cash and let's just keep in mind I don't play FPS. Someone build it for me please, don't over-build it. Just put an 'X' in front.

3.5GHz Quad-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz or
4.0GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 4.4GHz

8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB,
16GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x8GB or
32GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 4x8GB

1TB Fusion Drive,
3TB Fusion Drive,
256GB Flash Storage,
512GB Flash Storage or
1TB Flash Storage

AMD Radeon R9 M290X 2GB GDDR5
AMD Radeon R9 M295X 4GB GDDR5

Thanks

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GTX 780m was released in May 2013. I'm really looking for a long-term investment. Not a temporary solution that will last me 1.5 years. :eek:

If gaming is your main goal and you're willing to look past the windows operating system... you should really be getting a PC. You could trump these specs for a fraction of the cost - and the 5k for gaming will be useless as no games support that resolution, and all the games you play will be in windowed mode...
 
I'm curious, for gaming is it possible to drive a lower res display and turn off the main screen? Particularly in Bootcamp?

I'm not sure what is possible with the AMD cards, you can do it with the Nvidia chip in MacBook Pro
 
GTX 780m was released in May 2013. I'm really looking for a long-term investment. Not a temporary solution that will last me 1.5 years. :eek:

That "temporary solution" of a card is better than the AMD Radeon R9 M290X in the new retina iMac. In fact, the GTX 680MX from 2012 is also better. (The M295X optional upgrade is probably better than either NVIDIA card).
 
Honestly you should buy the low end mac mini and then build yourself a Windows PC. Only way you'll get what you're expecting without paying for the Apple premium.
 
If you wish to game , Mac Pro D700 with 4 core.

From experience gaming on an iMac over a long period will fry the internals. They are very thin, and gaming produced a lot of heat.

If you do get the iMac, AppleCare is a mist, you will have parts replaced.

To be honest your looking at a very expansive solution to a problem that can be achieved with a cheap gaming PC. Apple computers over very poor gaming performance for the price.

My clear winner is the Mac Pro
 
If you wish to game , Mac Pro D700 with 4 core.

From experience gaming on an iMac over a long period will fry the internals. They are very thin, and gaming produced a lot of heat.

Nobody that I know of on these forums has fried a 2012 iMac onwards. They are EXTREMELY effective at clearing heat. So I'm not sure where you think over a long period of time it will "fry the internals." I love to game on my iMac, and have played hours and hours over the last two years on my 2012 model.
 
Nobody that I know of on these forums has fried a 2012 iMac onwards. They are EXTREMELY effective at clearing heat. So I'm not sure where you think over a long period of time it will "fry the internals." I love to game on my iMac, and have played hours and hours over the last two years on my 2012 model.

It depends on the thermal paste lottery, I've had the screens out of half a dozen and redone them. Even optimised though it can't compete with the nMP with D700 which puts TDP on another level. One is a slimline pro-sumer 5k all in one desktop and the other is designed to be almost silent whilst taking an absolute pummelling and not throttling back one bit. Though to be fair they have underclocked the AMD's to fit the chassis design but using Crossfire it pulls way ahead in bootcamp.

Unless you take used route buying used Mac Pro 5,1 and upgrading it DIY the nMP D700 is the best gaming rig Apple sell period despite lagging on single core.
 
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this thread has been very helpful
my current 2010 imac 27" is starting to have problems
i generally upgrade every 4 years anyway

does anyone think they will update the 27" non-5k in the near-future?
 
For those who were considering a used Mac Pro 5,1 there's now the availability of a 40 buck PCIe card that fits apple SSD blades, including the 1tb second gen Samsung blade in the Mac Pro 6,1 at 1.4g/sec, twice the i/o of the retina iMac's and MBP models.

I've ordered one and with my GTX 680 it's more than a match for any Mac bar the Mac Pro 6,1 in crossfire in bootcamp :D
 
Nobody that I know of on these forums has fried a 2012 iMac onwards. They are EXTREMELY effective at clearing heat. So I'm not sure where you think over a long period of time it will "fry the internals." I love to game on my iMac, and have played hours and hours over the last two years on my 2012 model.

I have been commenting in other threads about how my 2012 iMac was just fine with the gaming I've done… but the Retina iMac (which I got Friday, and returned Saturday to an Apple store for refund) has a serious issue with tremendous heat being reported from the GPU. I returned mine in hopes that it will get sorted out eventually (I don't wish to be a test case for critical failures when my Mac is all I have to work with.)
 
Bumping my old thread, I still have my iMac 2011.
What about the options now?

Well, after having done research for the past year or so (I'm ocd a bit in that way), for me the best option is to get a 2012 cMP, which I hope to purchase by the end of the month. As I also do some 3D rendering, I'll be getting a 3.46 GHz 12 core, but most of that won't even be needed for gaming. I plan to also get a GTX 980 Ti (flashed) for the GPU. I'll be dual booting into Windows for gaming. Most posts I've read by people here who have this setup are pretty happy.

For strictly gaming, a 4 or 6 core cMP with a good GPU is all you need.
 
cMP2012 if you want the most expensive and effective route. Otherwise, you are still looking at the high-end iMac.

retina Macbook if you only play solitaire at the professional level.
 
Well, after having done research for the past year or so (I'm ocd a bit in that way), for me the best option is to get a 2012 cMP, which I hope to purchase by the end of the month. As I also do some 3D rendering, I'll be getting a 3.46 GHz 12 core, but most of that won't even be needed for gaming. I plan to also get a GTX 980 Ti (flashed) for the GPU. I'll be dual booting into Windows for gaming. Most posts I've read by people here who have this setup are pretty happy.

For strictly gaming, a 4 or 6 core cMP with a good GPU is all you need.

You don't need a 2012 Mac Pro, for single processor model, 2009 is virtually identical to the 2012 model.

So, get a single processor 2009 Mac Pro (4,1), flash it to 5,1. And then you can upgrade to W3690 / X5690 / X5677.

3x8G RAM should be pretty good for gaming (and working). If you want more, better go for 3x16G rather than 4x8G (the XEON is triple channel, using the 4th slot will degrade the performance a little bit).

For serious gaming, 980Ti is the way to go. However, there is only one reliable source to get the flashed card, and it won't be cheap. Also, without the Pixlas mod, only using internal power to drive the 980Ti is a hit or miss. Both 980 and TitanX run fine with the dual 6pin power source, but 980 seems not always happy with that.

cMP2012 if you want the most expensive and effective route. Otherwise, you are still looking at the high-end iMac.

retina Macbook if you only play solitaire at the professional level.

The cMP route for gaming Mac is not expensive at all. It really depends on what you want.

$400 cMP 4,1 (prefer with the GT120, this is the cheapest option)
$70 3x4G RAM (normal PC RAM is fine for gaming, no need to buy the more expensive server RAM)
$70 X5677 (eBay price, 3.46GHz Quad core, good enough for gaming, no need to go for the expensive X5690)
$250 GTX970 (Just need a good gaming PC card, no need to buy a flashed card. You can simply leave the GT120 in there to provide the boot screen. 970 has very high energy efficiency. If one card is not enough, the cMP has enough power to drive 2x 970 in SLI.)

Overall cost is less than $800, I doubt if you can buy any other good gaming iMac with this price. Besides, the Mac Pro has much better cooling system than other Mac. You can game for 24/7 at very high setting and all the fan still running at around idle.

Even though this price is not including the monitor, however, you can now get a free sync / G sync gaming monitor if you want some good stuff. Or just plug that into your TV for leisure gaming. You have all the choice / upgrade options with the cMP.

Also, this is the only Mac can install up to 6 SATA HDD/SSD internally, plenty of room for storage. Furthermore, AFAIK, the cMP is also the only Mac that can drive the VR at optimum performance without eGPU. All you need is just to buy a good gaming PC card, then it's VR ready.
 
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The cMP route for gaming Mac is not expensive at all. It really depends on what you want.

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Very well written. It makes you so sad that Apple decided to ditch the expandable Mac Pro, or not at least provide us with a cheaper alternative that could be made into a dedicated gaming machine, because even though the cMP2012 is quite capable, it is unfortunately starting to show signs of being old.
 
i would wait for the next imacs...the gpu will be very nice
pascal or polaris for sure
 
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