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Best Password manager?

PokerGuy said:
I have always used 1Password in the past but haven't bothered getting any of the upgrades in recent years so am still running version 3.

Since I have a brand new iMac I figure it is time to get a new updated version so wondering if they are still a good one, or is there another I should consider? Don't mind paying - ideally would like it to work on iPhone X too and sync easily between them all...

Thanks in advance
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If you have any questions about getting setup with 1Password 6 for Mac please let me know. I'm happy to help however I can.

Sorry for the delay in responding here. I try to keep an eye on posts here, but sometimes it's just really hard to check in and see things.
 
Recently I was in a thread talking about 1Password, and their move to a subscription based service, but it was said you can still buy it without a subscription (https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ubscription-only.2119796/page-2#post-27693874).

And I'm having a problem on my PC, getting the 1PW Firefox extension installed because where I used to be able to just install it, no questions asked, because it linked to a working 1Password app, now when I try to install the 1Password Firefox extension, I am being asked for my email, master password, and secret key, and it's telling me one of those is not right, and I'm having to jump through hoops for this very simple job, install the 1PW extension on Firefox. I am convinced this has something to do with their move to a primary subscription based service...

That said, that's not the primary reason I'm posting in this thread. I've decided that I'm going to give EnPass a shot which is very much like 1Password, one time purchase, vaults on third party sites like Dropbox, and cheaper too, at $11 per platform, which would be $33 for me (Mac, iOS, Windows). The Family subscription that I would need from 1PW would be $5 per month ($60 per year).

Pros and Cons of Keyfiles?
During the Enpass program setup, it offered to make a keyfile, which is a file on your computer that is needed to open the password vault. It is great for security, no brute force attacks possible, but if your computer crashes, and you lose this file, you are screwed. I suppose it might be possible to store this file somewhere else, just in case in a secure place on a CD or thumb drive.

Any thoughts on keyholes?
Any thoughts on Enpass or 1Password?
Thanks!
 
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Enpass vs 1Password
After using 1Password for 3 years, I have switched over to Enpass. What precipitated this was 1PW's move to a subscription based service plus an issue was reinstalling the 1PW extension on Firefox, see post #27. It was stated in another thread, that 1PW can still be purchased without a subscription, but it’s not posted on their site. At least I have not been able to find it.

I’ve found that Enpass is virtually identical to 1PW in function. Disclaimer: my experience is with 1Passwordv6 on Mac and v4 on PC. They both:
  • Operate using secure vaults (encrypted files) that can be synced on remote secondary sites like Dropbox, MSOne, or GoogleDocs.
  • Have browser extensions.
  • Work on the MacOS, iOS, PC, Android.
  • Allow data synch across devices.
  • Include thumbprint recognition, and auto fill in your iOS device.
Differences
  • Enpass is $12 a platform. So Mac, iPad, iPhone- $36.
  • 1PW is $3/month for a single person ($36 per year), and $5/month (family plan $60 a year).
  • Secret Key vs Keyfile.
  • 1PW has a secret key that comes into play for certain functions, but if you have a vault ready set up, you can reinstall a browser, reinstall 1PW and still access that vault with a basic sign in, at least I can. What it is not letting me do is reinstall a 1PW browser extension without entering the secret password, which I have, but it's not recognizing it. At this point I don't know why. Depending on what you are attempting to do, it may ask for your "account name" such as "my.1password.com". When I first bought 1PW in 2016, installing a 1PW extension on Firefox (as I recall) required no password, but it had to tie to a functioning 1PW app.
  • Enpass Keyfile- It is optional. A key file is a file that sits on your computer and would prevent a brute force hacking attack from the net, because both the master password and the key file are required to gain access to your vault. It is offered on the initial setup (Advanced option and can easily be missed), or you can go back later and add it, but that involves a password change. However as part of that, you can just put the old password back in and then add the keyfile. This file sits on your computer. So the question might be what happens when your computer dies on you, or it is stolen. Well, this is just something that else a stranger would have to overcome to gain access to your password vault. However, if you computer hard drive dies, it would be a good idea to have this backed up on Time Machine, or maybe keep it on a secured thumb drive or CD. I'm not an expert on that aspect of Keyfiles. If the keyfile is gone, you can't access your vault. Now how does this effect your other devices? Honestly I'm not sure. It might depend if you have a keyfile established on those too, but the short answer is I don't know.
Tip
Enpass Setup for multiple devices-
  • Setup Enpass on your computer first. This creates a primary vault.
  • If you are transferring passwords from 1Password it's easy to move your data: https://www.enpass.io/docs/manual-desktop/import_1password.html
  • Then through Enpass, setup a secondary vault at some place like Dropbox. Then synch vaults, This will move all of your passwords to the secondary vault for access provided to your other devices.
  • For the second device, if iOS, you'll have to download it from the App Store, and then purchase it again $12 if you want to have access to more than 20 passwords.
  • Now when you start Enpass on the new device, do not select "new account". Instead you want to select "restore account". It will then ask you for the vault location (for me, dropbox), sign into dropbox, and it will transfer all the passwords from your secondary vault at dropbox to your iOS Device.
  • With the single secondary vault you can synch passwords on and from multiple devices. However, I'm not sure if for example you synch from your Mac to the secondary vault, if that new data will auto flow out to your other devices, of if you have to manually tell them to synch.
 
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Huntn said:
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  • 1PW is $3/month single ($36 per year), and $5/month (5 devices $60 a year).
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Where do you get $36 a year and $5/month (5 devices $60 a year)? If you have the substitution version, you can put 1Password on as many devices as you want.
 
Huntn said:
https://1password.com/sign-up/

Those are the only prices I could find there. If there is a another price, could you post a link? Thanks!
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It’s 35.88 a year for 1 person (2.99 x12) and you have unlimited devices.
Or for a family of 5, it’s $59.88 a year (4.99 x 12) and less than $1 a month per person.

If you scroll down you’ll see:
“Unlimited Devices Use 1Password on as many computers and devices as you own, whether at home or at work.”
 
Mr. Heckles said:
It’s 35.88 a year for 1 person (2.99 x12) and you have unlimited devices.
Or for a family of 5, it’s $59.88 a year (4.99 x 12) and less than $1 a month per person.

If you scroll down you’ll see:
“Unlimited Devices Use 1Password on as many computers and devices as you own, whether at home or at work.”
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I’ll correct this in my previous post. Is there a price without a subscription? If so do you have a link. Thanks!

Fixed!
 
Enpass does look interesting, however, I'm a long term 1Password fan. I've tried Lastpass and Dashlane, but the way 1Password works is just the most logical to me. Great to share with private faults as well with others in the family. Or as many organisations use it professionally they can just add me to their organisation. Integrated 2FA works really well on both mobile devices and desktop/laptops. As I've got an iPhone, Android Phone, iPad, Nexus Tablet, 2 Macbook Pro's, a SurfaceBook, MacPro and Mini, 1Password is very cost-effective. It is the first utility I install on my machines. And let's not forget it also works on various Linux distributions.
 
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