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I don’t see the problem in discussing the experience of a public beta and whether it can or should be used on your only device.

The public beta program is helping to deliver higher quality releases. It almost certainly can’t brick your device and with proper precautions the risk of losing data is minimal.
 
I don’t see the problem in discussing the experience of a public beta and whether it can or should be used on your only device.

The public beta program is helping to deliver higher quality releases. It almost certainly can’t brick your device and with proper precautions the risk of losing data is minimal.

Yet again, because the cliff notes versions do NOT show anywhere near all of the bugs/possible bugs that the main beta thread does or go anywhere near in depth. It is incredibly dangerous to rely on a few 1 sentence (opinion) bites.

One should not be running a beta if they cannot read the main first post in the beta thread and some of the material there, and then form their own opinion based on the risks.

One's "opinion" in 1 sentence of the beta is essentially meaningless as it contains no detail and every experience with the beta is different ranging from terrible to great. As I said in the last daily driver thread, it is like asking if a rear wheel drive 800hp muscle car is a "daily driver" while living in say snowy Boston. EVERYONE will have their own opinions from drive it every day rain, snow or shine to only no, only a summer car; and those will not equate to your experience or choice either.
 
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It's good enough for daily use as long as you can deal with the problems still exist. Apple still has a lot of little clean up to do on this before it is released.
 
So on average, what number do these betas go up to? (on average). It's all going rather quick it seems, so I'm holding off. It's kind of a big update, so actually these peculiar threads aren't all that silly.

Even the first beta I tried on day one, worked pretty good.
 
Yet again, because the cliff notes versions do NOT show anywhere near all of the bugs/possible bugs that the main beta thread does or go anywhere near in depth. It is incredibly dangerous to rely on a few 1 sentence (opinion) bites.

One should not be running a beta if they cannot read the main first post in the beta thread and some of the material there, and then form their own opinion based on the risks.

One's "opinion" in 1 sentence of the beta is essentially meaningless as it contains no detail and every experience with the beta is different ranging from terrible to great. As I said in the last daily driver thread, it is like asking if a rear wheel drive 800hp muscle car is a "daily driver" while living in say snowy Boston. EVERYONE will have their own opinions from drive it every day rain, snow or shine to only no, only a summer car; and those will not equate to your experience or choice either.

I think we're all grown enough to understand the risks. Asking for an overall take on the state of the current beta in day to day use doesn't mean they don't look at the massive bugs thread. A list of bugs doesn't tell a full story either. Some of those bugs aren't something that happens all the time. Asking a question like this gives people a more general notion of what the overall feeling is on a beta at a point in time.

Either way, it's nothing to get one's knickers in a twist over. If you don't like the thread, no one's putting a gun to your head making your read or post it in. Simply scroll past it. It's one thread on a front page of about 20-30 topics on the forum.
 
Maybe instead of asking if it’s stable enough for a daily driver they should ask if there are any show stopping or mission critical bugs? Any base functionalities broken?
 
Don't think we need a thread, but yes it's fine to run daily.

Why not? The OP had a question... and asked it... why would that be a problem?

To the OP... I've been running the current public beta on my driver since it dropped... as others have stated, there are a few issues, but nothing major... and, as stated above, whether or not you can/should do it is a matter of personal preference, based on your tolerance for glitches.
 
Since PB 1 I've been using iOS 11 as my daily driver and haven't had any problems I couldn't live with. Battery life sucked on the first couple releases and I had to restart more often than usual but now pretty much all of that has been resolved. I'm on the beta 6 right now and have no complaints. Works great.
 
Why not? The OP had a question... and asked it... why would that be a problem?

To the OP... I've been running the current public beta on my driver since it dropped... as others have stated, there are a few issues, but nothing major... and, as stated above, whether or not you can/should do it is a matter of personal preference, based on your tolerance for glitches.

Just feel like it's more appropriate in the thread discussing the new beta. I don't feel like it needs a whole thread for a yes or no question.
 
Just feel like it's more appropriate in the thread discussing the new beta. I don't feel like it needs a whole thread for a yes or no question.

The problem is, that thread gets ridiculously long and there ends up being a lot of tangents cluttering it up, such that you have to wade through 20 pages of dialogue to find the stuff you're curious about.

Again, I just don't see why this bothers anyone. It's one thread of 25 or so on the front page. Nothing other than some OCD characteristics would make anyone have to click on it or read it. There's no need to be some sort of hall monitor on the issue.

For the record, this thread was helpful to me. Between reading this and perusing the list of known bugs, I decided to take the plunge last night on my iPhone 6. Seems pretty good so far.
 
The problem is, that thread gets ridiculously long and there ends up being a lot of tangents cluttering it up, such that you have to wade through 20 pages of dialogue to find the stuff you're curious about.

Again, I just don't see why this bothers anyone. It's one thread of 25 or so on the front page. Nothing other than some OCD characteristics would make anyone have to click on it or read it. There's no need to be some sort of hall monitor on the issue.

For the record, this thread was helpful to me. Between reading this and perusing the list of known bugs, I decided to take the plunge last night on my iPhone 6. Seems pretty good so far.

That's fine man, just my opinion. Throw a question out to the thread, get a response from someone. Not super complicated, but okay.
 
Is beta 6 to that point yet (in your experience)? I'm thinking of going for it on my 7 Plus. Are there any deal breakers or is it pretty close to the final release?

No, I would say you should hold for for sure. I would say, the best thing to do, it wait for IOS 12 beta 4, then install IOS 11.
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The problem is, that thread gets ridiculously long and there ends up being a lot of tangents cluttering it up, such that you have to wade through 20 pages of dialogue to find the stuff you're curious about.

Again, I just don't see why this bothers anyone. It's one thread of 25 or so on the front page. Nothing other than some OCD characteristics would make anyone have to click on it or read it. There's no need to be some sort of hall monitor on the issue.

For the record, this thread was helpful to me. Between reading this and perusing the list of known bugs, I decided to take the plunge last night on my iPhone 6. Seems pretty good so far.

The problem is also, that there are new threads with the same exact questions, and the annoying phrase "daily driver." It is not a car, you don't drive it.

For bugs, fixes, etc... there is a specialized thread, just for that.
 
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Is beta 6 to that point yet (in your experience)? I'm thinking of going for it on my 7 Plus. Are there any deal breakers or is it pretty close to the final release?

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Seriously, though it’s been working well on my 7 Plus, but there’s no way to know if there are any deal breakers for you. Others have had deal breakers.
 
I don’t see the problem in discussing the experience of a public beta and whether it can or should be used on your only device.

The public beta program is helping to deliver higher quality releases. It almost certainly can’t brick your device and with proper precautions the risk of losing data is minimal.
Because it’s vague and subjective. Only way to know for sure is to try it so that’s what people should do instead of asking stupid questions no one else can answer for them.
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So on average, what number do these betas go up to? (on average). It's all going rather quick it seems, so I'm holding off. It's kind of a big update, so actually these peculiar threads aren't all that silly.

Even the first beta I tried on day one, worked pretty good.
iOS 10 had 8 betas

www.thinkybits.com/blog/iOS-versions/
 
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I'm firmly in the "the answer is always the same: YMMV" camp, but I have to say I prefer to have these questions in their own thread so that the pinned thread can focus on new features and bugs. Otherwise why have threads at all?

To try to stay on topic and strike fear into people unsure of whether they should test the beta: I saw elsewhere that someone noticed too late that one of the betas, on iOS or macOS, had deleted all their carefully hand-curated albums in Photos and propagated that change to all their devices through iCloud. This is exactly the kind of thing we curmudgeons are warning you about! :p
 
One question , once i install GM can I remove the profile and go back to non beta updates ?
 
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