I can’t wait to see how fanboys will defend Apple
Defend Apple from what? I didn’t see where it says Apple scammed anyone.
I can’t wait to see how fanboys will defend Apple
What money?Apple should be made legally liable for money lost due to scam apps in the AppStore and forced to repay anyone who has lost money in the same way banks and credit card companies refund losses due to fraud.
And Apple is supposed to verify that every one of the billion apps that is submitted each year is free of any copyright, patent, or trademark infringement?This is not good. Regardless of the app or purpose, the whole point of App store is meant to be security and garden walled approach. 30% commission and we still get scammers? Not good for customers at all
What’s a “wall garden” ?Seriously though. Isn't the wall garden supposed to protect users from situations like this?
then they shouldnt take 30%! 30% for payment processing and hosting files lol, nice. the only reason they can get away with this is because they have the market power to do so, and we in USA do not like that and its why we have antitrust lawsAnd Apple is supposed to verify that every one of the billion apps that is submitted each year is free of any copyright, patent, or trademark infringement?
please.
Of course they did. They charged 43% tax for every app and then took the money and did not bother to check the apps properly.Defend Apple from what? I didn’t see where it says Apple scammed anyone.
That’s none of our business when Apple is charging a premium to both iPhone customers and app developers.There's only so much time in a day. How are App Store employees supposed to vet apps and monitor approved social media apps for disfavored content?
Yeah, it's a hardware wallet for experts or paranoid people, the cc equivalent of open-carrying a loaded and cocked AK with safety off. In a newb's hands, or maybe even in my hands, it's riskier than just using a software wallet. I have lots of BTC and still don't mess with a Trezor.I was not too familiar with how the Trezor wallet works, so I went and looked it up. So there is no "passphrase" or online account that that you could provide which would let someone gain access. To access or recover, you need the trezor hardware itself, connect to a PC (or android phone), enter the 12, 18, or 24 words depending on your setup that you are asked to write down during setup, and also a pincode you are supposed to memorize. Knowing this, you are ONLY EVER supposed to enter this information on the trezor itself and NOT on any other computer or phone etc.
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"As Trezor warns, you should NEVER take a photo of your recovery seed, type the seed into a computer, save it in cloud storage or upload the seed on the internet."
This guy has no argument against Apple and is 100% his own fault... he should have known how to use the Trezor and if entered in all his 24 word recovery keys and pincode into a fake app that imitated a trezor then that kinda defeats the purpose of the hardware wallet. Would have been better off printing out a wallet and keeping in a safe place.
Washington Post makes it sound like he just entered some password, but that was not the case... or entire story is BS.
Not how it works. When your arrogant CEO is making grand proclamations about why the monopoly is necessary, you live by the sword and die by it. Cook needs to shut his pie hole if he won’t stand by his App Store.It's clear that the vast majority of end users still don't seem to understand why Apple has the controls on the App Store that they do ...
1) The safe guards are there to ensure the vast majority of "crap apps" and apps that don't appear to be what they are, do infact get blocked and denied by Apple. The methods are various. No official stats but one can be assured it's thousands of apps a month.
2) if you compare the apps on Google Play with those on Apple's App Store, you will find at least 80% higher quality applications on the Apple App Store, with credentials and validations to match. They work, and have legit support behind them.
3) No one system is perfect. As I read in an earlier post, if you don't do the work to ensure that you are giving your login credentials over to just "anyone" and it involves your personal information, or finances, etc..... then you really need to rethink your own personal security protocol when using apps and websites online
4) end user agreements are in place for a reason. It protects the designer from any misuse to ensure law suits don't go out for just anything based on personal losses. If you don't "read the EUA" and just click "accept" then chances are you are not really fully understanding the terms by which that software is used and what to do when something unlawful occurs
5) crypto-currency is "fake" currency.... it's not backed by any one nation, or standard. There are no Gold or Silver bars at the world bank to back every cent of crypto-currency mined..... there isn't any institution in the EU or USA that had any means to financially back any of the transactions that occur with such currency.... and it's frankly all based on "hyper speculation" - meaning it's become more a "collectors" realm vs a real viable means of conducting business day to day. If crypto-currency were infact a great idea, I would think more worldly nations would be leaning toward it. Just because an eccentric billionaire purchases a butt load so such currency doesn't make it a sure thing. (But I still hold mad props to Elon for his boldness). And when the value of the currency begins to rocket downward and "crypto-investors" attempt to sell their coins off in an effort to maintain their "financial health" I'm pretty sure the crypto-exchanges out there won't have any means to "cash out" into real useable dollars.
nothing is a guarantee. Apple does what they can to protect themselves and their end users. If you don't believe that's the case, then slide on over to Android, and have some fun there.
I googled for "Trezor", and according to their web site, the founders are named "Slush" and "Stick". That's it. No first nor last names. The whole thing, from the fake app to the hardware wallet company feels like one big scam. However, yeah, with all that app vetting that Apple does, they probably should have at least done some company or product name validation to make sure the Dev is actually associated with that company. This sucks!
As with SS/bank accounts and other financial instruments: he didn't do his homework nor 'test' a downloaded app. Apple owes him nothing. He's just , as so many others , 'following the deep pockets'. Sorry for his loss but I've downloaded PayPal and other Fin apps...and tested with a single dollar . I find it hard to believe, what with all of the schemes involveing bitcoin for the past few YEARS that he wasn't more cautious. Remember South Korea recently? Really.But.. get a Texas jury...who knows. Skys the limit. MSM will blow this up because ....drum roll please...Its Apple! Note: not a fan-boy but grew up in a different gen where 'personal responsibility ' was as given as the sky is blue. Lawyers should love this....just have to convince the courts that 'bit/ether ' and the rest are 'real, US Gov. accepted and defined' currency. Good Luck. Sometimes, when you gamble, you loose. All of the 'e-currency' is gambling. Many seem to have forgotten the 'bigger fool/sucker' theory of making money.
A scam bitcoin app that was designed to look like a genuine app was accepted by Apple's App Store review team and ended up costing iPhone user Phillipe Christodoulou 17.1 bitcoin, or upwards of $600,000 at the time of the theft, reports The Washington Post.
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Christodoulou wanted to check on his bitcoin balance back in February, and searched Apple's App Store for "Trezor," the company that makes the hardware device where he stored his cryptocurrency. He saw an app with the Trezor padlock logo and a green background, so he downloaded it and entered his credentials.
Unfortunately, the app was fake, and was designed to look like a legitimate app to fool bitcoin owners. Christodoulou had his total bitcoin balance stolen from him, and he's angry with Apple. "Apple doesn't deserve to get away with this," he told The Washington Post.
Apple reviews all App Store app submissions to prevent scam apps from being downloaded by iPhone users, but there are plenty of scam and copycat apps like the fake Trezor app that slip by and have major consequences for iPhone users.
Apple says the fake Trezor app got through the App Store through "a bait-and-switch." It was called Trezor and used the Trezor logo and colors, but said that it was a "cryptography" app that would encrypt iPhone files and store passwords. The developer of the fake app told Apple that it was "not involved in any cryptocurrency." After the fake Trezor app was submitted, it changed itself into a cryptocurrency wallet, which Apple was not able to detect.
Meghan DiMuzio, the executive director for the Coalition of App Fairness that counts anti-Apple companies like Epic Games as a member, said that Apple "pushes myths about user privacy and security as a shield against its anti-competitive App Store practices." She said that Apple's security standards are "inconsistently applied across apps" and "only enforced when it benefits Apple."
Apple spokesperson Fred Sainz told The Washington Post that Apple takes swift action when criminals defraud iPhone users.
Apple declined to comment on how often scam apps are found, nor how often they're removed from the App Store. The company did, however, say that 6,500 apps were removed last year for "hidden or undocumented features."
Apple acknowledged that it has discovered other cryptocurrency scams on the App Store, but did not provide specific details on numbers nor whether there had been fake Trezor apps in the past. Trezor does not offer an iOS app at all, and Trezor spokesperson said that it had been notifying Apple and Google about fake Trezor apps "for years."
Apple would not provide The Washington Post with the name of the developer of the fake Trezor app, whether that developer had other apps in the App Store under other names, nor would Apple say whether the name was turned over to law enforcement officials. Apple says that it removed the fake Trezor app and banned the developer after the actual Trezor company reported it. Another fake app popped up two days later, and Apple removed that, too.
UK-based cryptocurrency regulation company Coinbase said that it has received over 7,000 inquiries about stolen crypto assets since 2019, and fake apps found in the Google Play and App Store are common complaints. In fact, five people have had cryptocurrency stolen by the fake Trezor app on iOS, with losses totaling $1.6 million.
Data from Sensor Tower suggests that the fake Trezor app was on the App Store from January 22 to February 3, and was downloaded approximately 1,000 times. The 17.1 bitcoin that Christodoulou lost are worth close to $1 million today, and Christodoulou says that he's heard nothing from Apple on the subject.
Another iPhone user who lost $14,000 worth of Ethereum and bitcoin said that an Apple representative told him Apple was not responsible for the loss from the fake Trezor app.
Article Link: Bitcoin Scam App Approved by Apple Robs iPhone User of $600,000+
To quote South Park:.....and....ITS GONE!......It’s gone. He should have known by now that space is full of criminals criming.
Now imagine a phone with multiple app stores and this kind of scams and theft will happen on thousands of phones every day.
Airline Safety and Protocols are top notch. Yet...plans crash. Pharma is on the same level....people die from medications. Our legal system (outside of Texas) has got to stop rewarding people for the expectation of perfection. Doesn't exist.This is not good. Regardless of the app or purpose, the whole point of App store is meant to be security and garden walled approach. 30% commission and we still get scammers? Not good for customers at all
I'm ready to go 'old school' and start selling NFT 'Credit Default Swaps' from 2008-09. For those who understand and have greater than the proverbial 15min. memory.This is yet another shortcoming of digital currencies. There is no nation to back them, hence no sovereign to insure against losses.
It is iOS devs that have to pay "30 percent". Devs are protected.Well well well I thought the percentage Apple was charging was for securing the apps in the app store /s
Sure...they can reimburse him in'LisaII' coin.......Sure, they can refund his actual $.99.
There’s no false sense of security. The only absolutely secure system is one which does not connect to the outside world. Once you connect to the Internet and authenticate with a third-party, there’s little or nothing Apple can do to protect someone from their own foolishness. It’s why you shouldn’t authenticate to your bank website at Starbucks unless you’re doing so over a VPN.It probably wouldn't have, but at least you won't have this false sense of security with Apple's app store and their claim that their walled garden is safer and better for users since they vet and approve all apps.