See below. Regardless, how I see it, is before you give $600K worth of assets over to someone, due your due diligence.
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Bitcoin Scam App Approved by Apple Robs iPhone User of $600,000+
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The way you pain’t it, it seems like apple have no choice but to accept almost every app submitted, and that’s not the case. And if it were, then there’s no reason not to allow third party app stores.
As for what apple could do, they could ban cryptocurrency apps, let them be web based. I don’t know if that’s technically feasable, I know nothing about cryptocurrency except that they are ruining the gpu market. Scams are going to happen anyway, but apple can at least make sure they don’t have anything to do with it.
Seriously though. Aren’t seat belts supposed to protect drivers from car accidents like that?
You want a completely secure device? Never install anything. Never connect to the internet. Heck just don’t even turn it on. Apple never promised 100% protection, acting as if they did is asinine.
Key word SAFER not completely safe. Apple never promised completely safe. Holding them to an impossible standard they never claimed to meet is ridiculous.
This is truly awful to hear about, but I have to play both sides of the fence for Apple here:
(1) this is why we need an App Store to begin with. The open web is something of a failure in terms of trust as it stands. As an alternative, I'd be in support of new forms of digital accountability and verification.
(2) the presence of an app on the App Store shouldn't be implied to state anything absolute about the trust of a third party. How conceivably even could it? Apple's review process involves code/API/SDK reviews and compliance with terms (which yes, must include that state and federal laws are followed). But just like if Netflix or another ubiquitous/compliant/reputable company went and negligently sold all of the data it collected to scammers, the liability shouldn't fall onto Apple.
Overall, I love the App Store, and I want to keep it around! The thing I don't like about the App Store is Apple's modesty, double standards, and as we're seeing now, false sense of security conveyed in certain instances. But the real power in the App Store (and the blessing it is to have) is in all of the scams we don't hear about! (Unquantifiable.)
First appreciate, then criticize!
(1) this is why we need an App Store to begin with. The open web is something of a failure in terms of trust as it stands. As an alternative, I'd be in support of new forms of digital accountability and verification.
(2) the presence of an app on the App Store shouldn't be implied to state anything absolute about the trust of a third party. How conceivably even could it? Apple's review process involves code/API/SDK reviews and compliance with terms (which yes, must include that state and federal laws are followed). But just like if Netflix or another ubiquitous/compliant/reputable company went and negligently sold all of the data it collected to scammers, the liability shouldn't fall onto Apple.
Overall, I love the App Store, and I want to keep it around! The thing I don't like about the App Store is Apple's modesty, double standards, and as we're seeing now, false sense of security conveyed in certain instances. But the real power in the App Store (and the blessing it is to have) is in all of the scams we don't hear about! (Unquantifiable.)
First appreciate, then criticize!
Of course he was. With that amount of money you would think he would be extra careful but **** happens.
Well, they kind of imply it.
App Store
The App Store gives people around the world a safe and trusted place to discover apps that meet our high standards for privacy, security, and content.
www.apple.com
Yes, nowhere says it’s 100% safe, but they use the word secure in almost every other sentence. Lots of people would be convinced that nothing harmful can come from the app store.
That said, of course apple can’t and don’t take responsibility for everything happening with an app distributed via the app store, but it would be clearer if they used the word safer instead of safe.
And you’re right, the only way to be 100% safe in the internet is not being on the internet.
So does every commercial on tv (or youtube et al) for weight loss, investments etc. But everyone knows the FCC, FTC and FDA won't allow scams on tv, right? So it's just got to be safe!
Let's also not forgot that the poor fellow who lost everything lost cryptocurrency... I suggest that people knowledgeable enough to invest in cryptocurrency are more likely to be aware of computer security risks than the average person who sees that Apple salesline... In other words, don't pretend this guy was ignorant enough to think Apple was beyond reproach.
e. NO WARRANTY: YOU EXPRESSLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT USE OF THE LICENSED APPLICATION IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK. TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, THE LICENSED APPLICATION AND ANY SERVICES PERFORMED OR PROVIDED BY THE LICENSED APPLICATION ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" AND “AS AVAILABLE,” WITH ALL FAULTS AND WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, AND LICENSOR HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES AND CONDITIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE LICENSED APPLICATION AND ANY SERVICES, EITHER EXPRESS, IMPLIED, OR STATUTORY, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES AND/OR CONDITIONS OF MERCHANTABILITY, OF SATISFACTORY QUALITY, OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OF ACCURACY, OF QUIET ENJOYMENT, AND OF NONINFRINGEMENT OF THIRD-PARTY RIGHTS.
If that is taken from the app store T&C's then Apple has no right to say in ANY official or unoffical press releases or any radio or TV interview that the app store is a safe place for it's users. You cannot have a T&C that specificaly states that the company under no warranty, will allow an app to be provided 'as is' and 'as available' with all faults and without warranty of any kind. You cannot have a document that specifies that an app can be provided with faults and then profess that the app store is a safe place to use.
If that is taken from the app store T&C's then Apple has no right to say in ANY official or unoffical press releases or any radio or TV interview that the app store is a safe place for it's users. You cannot have a T&C that specificaly states that the company under no warranty, will allow an app to be provided 'as is' and 'as available' with all faults and without warranty of any kind. You cannot have a document that specifies that an app can be provided with faults and then profess that the app store is a safe place to use.
Sure Apple has right to claim the App Store is a safe place for it's users. This is not binary and never was. That Apple does what it can to prevent malware/trojans etc, doesn't mean in every case it can catch 100% of every app that could masquerade as something else.
If that was your impression that Apple should only be allowed to advertise a safe and secure app store if Apple catches 100% of malware and because they are not 100% they should not advertise they are safe, your expectations are way out of whack with the reality with this cat and mouse game between malware writers and malware catchers.
This isn't to say things can't be improved, but posters who criticize Apple, seem to make this a black and white issue with no shades of grey.
No, it’s not. Not every tv ad is dishonest. I know it’s a figure of speech, but there are ads that try to paint products in their best light without implying falsehoods.
It’s like touting water resistance as a selling point on the iPhone, then refusing to repair damage from exposure to water. You can’t have it both ways, honor the warranty or don’t advertise it as water resistant. I’m sure everything is perfectly legal, but that doesn’t make it right.
Regarding the guy, I don’t know if he’s an ignorant or a ****ing genius (evidence suggests more the former than the later, you don’t have to have a PhD to buy cryptocurrency, and you aren’t the sharpest crayon in the box if you trust 600.000$ to a random app store app), but he’s claiming apple because he has nowhere else to go.
Or like touting better screen resistance to damage from dropping and then refusing to warranty repair the screen of your phone when you drop it and it shatters?
That's a fair point. And one of the reasons so many take side against Apple is just because they can be jerks in that way.
But along those lines, does anyone really think that Apple's perceived App Store safety "warranty" extends towards financial losses approaching 6 digits? He certainly qualifies for $100 iTunes gift card.
edit - Had this guy been hacked while using Nordvpn, do you really think they'd cover it?
Not the same thing. It’s a stronger glass, not an unbreakable glass, and it’s not sold as unbreakable, only more resistant to drops than previous phones. Yet they claim an ip68 water resistance, then refuse to repair water damage.
I can't wait to see how the trolls will defend the criminal app developer who committed the actual crime!
Well I thought people had better standards of English when posting comments on sites such as this and could tell the difference between walled and wallet 🤔
Sure he can have every single penny he spent on purchasing the free app. That ends their involvement or responsibility with any financial aspect gain or loss.
Nope!
Once upon a time fiat currency had no protections whatsoever and yet that does not make it a bad thing.
Same with cryptocurrency. we will get protections for cryptocurrency soon enough so do not worry.
Because no system is perfect you know!
I would rather 6500 apps got through and then were removed than hundreds of thousands getting through and most never get removed.