BlackBerry 10

[mikeo007]

Blackberry 10 looks nice. Technologically it seems up to par. But I just don't think customers are going to care at all. It just seems like they're playing catchup now and the door has already shut. RIM as a company isn't in the exact same position as Palm near their death, but BB10 reminds me way too much of WebOS.

 

[Stuntman06]

It is interesting to compare Nokia and RIM. Nokia decided to abandon Symbian/MeeGo completely and partner with MS on WP. WP is totally incompatible with Symbian/MeeGo. RIM decided to remain with their own (although purchased) platform. BB10 has some backward compatibility with the older BB platform, so it is not an entirely clean break. Symbian users are pretty much at a dead end so migrating to WP offers little advantage to going with any other OS. Existing BB users will see some advantage by remaining with BB10 over another OS. There is certainly an incentive to the existing BB users that RIM can captialise on. Nokia could not do the same when they went with WP.

 

[lordofthereef]

I am interested in everything new. I will be more interested when I get to touch and play with the thing. Sadly, a good OS can't make it these days without a TON of money backing it. I felt webOS had promise. But it fizzled because, well, HP wasn't willing to throw the cash they needed to throw at it.

 

[Leet Apple]

turned on my old Bold 9790 for the first time in months, RIM really needs to make BBM useable over wifi only thing that would ever get me to use this device again

 

[DeepIn2U]

Very very little interest. It'd have to be a monumental improvement to pry me away from stock Android.

At this point and time, no OS experience is as superior, as flexible, and as catered to individual needs as stock Android is. After setting it up just right, it's just too rewarding of an experience.

Of what I've seen of BB10, I can't say I'm impressed enough to switch.

Wow. really? Android is based on java code for the most part, a legacy of current BB OS.

Superior: QNX or POSIX core ... part of which is in OSX MACH kernel.
(if you're not sure why this is superior to linux kernel in Android, you need about an hour of reading)

Flexible: Let's just say that this OS can run your car, your smart home and with an internet connection and with RIM's NOC can securely provide data back/forth with monitoring along with data transmissions for updates - think of that new thermostate on roids (control fridge cooling, oven cooking with sensors to know your kids food maybe overcooking while their playing at home so the house doesn't burn down, solar panels rotating for best sunlight angle and optimum charging times for that electric car in the public parking lot that is metred to your credit account; don't want to overpay now do you).

- C++ code, Cascades UI, C# code, Qt code translated, java, ruby, perl, yes even porting those precious android/iOS apps over. this is THE most flexible mobile OS available today, bar none!

This is catered to individual needs more than Android ever has, the fact you must fiddle with Android from stock nexus or any other manufacturer ensure's why that platform is flawed from an end user perspective; course its not for everybody. It also keeps your user experience intact when on a corporate environment; that environment only restricts THAT data, no 3rd party UI changing add-on required.

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turned on my old Bold 9790 for the first time in months, RIM really needs to make BBM useable over wifi only thing that would ever get me to use this device again

This is capable since BB5. I've wiped a BB 9000, and 9900 (BB7) from scratch installed the OS and updated core apps, connected with NO live SIM card installed and registerd and BBM'd someone live. no wireless provider connection at all.

 

[cynics]

Wow. really? Android is based on java code for the most part, a legacy of current BB OS.

Superior: QNX or POSIX core ... part of which is in OSX MACH kernel.
(if you're not sure why this is superior to linux kernel in Android, you need about an hour of reading)

Flexible: Let's just say that this OS can run your car, your smart home and with an internet connection and with RIM's NOC can securely provide data back/forth with monitoring along with data transmissions for updates - think of that new thermostate on roids (control fridge cooling, oven cooking with sensors to know your kids food maybe overcooking while their playing at home so the house doesn't burn down, solar panels rotating for best sunlight angle and optimum charging times for that electric car in the public parking lot that is metred to your credit account; don't want to overpay now do you).

- C++ code, Cascades UI, C# code, Qt code translated, java, ruby, perl, yes even porting those precious android/iOS apps over. this is THE most flexible mobile OS available today, bar none!

This is catered to individual needs more than Android ever has, the fact you must fiddle with Android from stock nexus or any other manufacturer ensure's why that platform is flawed from an end user perspective; course its not for everybody. It also keeps your user experience intact when on a corporate environment; that environment only restricts THAT data, no 3rd party UI changing add-on required.

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This is capable since BB5. I've wiped a BB 9000, and 9900 (BB7) from scratch installed the OS and updated core apps, connected with NO live SIM card installed and registerd and BBM'd someone live. no wireless provider connection at all.

What does all this mean? If someone has to sit there and spoon feed you why something is better (more flexible or whatever) it more then likely isn't.

Only home automation I have is a thermostat. It's only compatible with iOS and Android. I guess you could include my TV and DVR via Verizon Fios, once again though not on Blackberry.

BB might be technically more flexible but if I have no real world use for then how flexible is it really?

 

[DeepIn2U]

RIM is very much dead as far as I can see. BB10 won't really do anything to reverse that.

RIM is dead. When you have to liquidate physical assets and fire a quarter of your workforce, just to stay afloat, you are circling the drain. Even IF BB10 comes out in Feb (big IF), it is already going to be obsolete and non-business consumers are more likely to buy iphone, Android or WP8.
Now, people that love BB will point out that RIM increased their subscription base last quarter, but that was only due to selling in 3rd world countries and making no profit on old,cheap BB devices.
To buy anything from RIM at this point, you need to be prepared that your device will not be supported or updated when the company goes under. Not that there will be much in the way of apps anyway. RIM should dump all mobile assets and concentrate on business hardware, server solutions and software security. That is their strong points.

At this point, I think RIM is on the path to extinction and nothing will change that.

I guess all 3 of your are wrong!

BlackBerry, the new name, still has Cash on hand, last qtr returned to profitability, NO DEBT (STILL), and all your predictions still has no effect on this company that was fortune told to be dead. Next qtr results are June 28th, 2013 and I'll bet they'll be further from any fortune told bankruptcy then as well.

So what are your predictions even now considering the recent turn of events?! Hmmm.

 

[aristobrat]

Well it's June 28th.

Don't know if they're any closer to their deathbed, but it doesn't seem like anyone was happy with BlackBerry's quarterly results.

Stock is down ~26% as of 1:30 PM ET.

 

[0dev]

I guess all 3 of your are wrong!

BlackBerry, the new name, still has Cash on hand, last qtr returned to profitability, NO DEBT (STILL), and all your predictions still has no effect on this company that was fortune told to be dead. Next qtr results are June 28th, 2013 and I'll bet they'll be further from any fortune told bankruptcy then as well.

So what are your predictions even now considering the recent turn of events?! Hmmm.

Despite the doom and gloom headlines today I still support this 100%. Their last report was bad because of politics in Venezuela but their sales and revenue saw an increase even in the North American market.

Looking forward to playing with the Q5, I can see those being very popular in the UK. Cheap BlackBerries in the UK are absolutely everywhere. They're virtually ubiquitous products. You can't walk around London without seeing BlackBerries.