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Except today there are long, long lineups around the world for the iPad.

Hint: it has something to do with what the iPad offers that the others don't. It's also about precisely what the iPad has *less of* that the others don't.

Start guessing.

It's because Apple can stick their logo on a piece of dog ****, charge $500 for it, and people will line up for blocks.
 
It's because Apple can stick their logo on a piece of dog ****, charge $500 for it, and people will line up for blocks.

This. There isn't anything more special about the iPad than any other modern tablet efforts. Just the hype, and the fashionable Apple logo.

The novelty will wear off. It has begun to already. I'm seeing more and more android based tablets in the shops.
 
This. There isn't anything more special about the iPad than any other modern tablet efforts. Just the hype, and the fashionable Apple logo.

You continue to not get it. Just like you didn't get it back in January 2010.

This is exactly the kind of confounded and flummoxed thinking that is characteristic of the also-rans. They don't get it either, and end up concentrating on all the wrong things.

And if you don't "get" the iPad and what characterizes it as a device that truly sets it apart from its rivals, then you don't get Apple in general. In which case posting your contrarian views on an Apple fansite is pointless. Unless you like being consistently wrong.
 
Didn't know that as I'm not a developer. Thanks!

You're welcome.


That blog was about developing Playbook QNX apps, which is a totally different set of tools, and a different situation from rewrapping Android or Blackberry apps.

As for his complaints, well, iOS development has some gnarly impediments as well, especially when it comes to testing on devices. There's no really easy to set up dev situation out there, to tell the truth. Each has its pitfalls and learning curve. Which is why there's so many help books on iOS, Android, etc programming.

Readers would be better off with his followup blog here, where he commends RIM for responding to his complaints and he says how impressed he was with them.
 
And if you don't "get" the iPad and what characterizes it as a device that truly sets it apart from its rivals, then you don't get Apple in general. In which case posting your contrarian views on an Apple fansite is pointless. Unless you like being consistently wrong.
HAHAHAHA!!! These threads, and more specifically your posts, remind me of some video game forums I visit. The difference there is, most of the inane brand loyalty, flame wars, name calling and generally childish behavior is to be expected... because they ARE children. Sadly, I'm guessing you're not 12 years old, even though your behavior around here often gives that impression.
 
http://press.rim.com/release.jsp?id=4935

Great idea, Jim!

Not.

RIM cutting corners again. They have no ecosystem to speak of, have never really put any effort into making one, and now they think porting over Android apps will solve everything. BOOM! Instant 100,000 apps! That's all they really want to achieve with this: the ability to say they've got 100,000 apps. That just fell out of the sky. LOL.

WHAT?! RIM doesn't have an ecosystem?! You really do NOT know their business do yoU!?

* Unified Communications:
WLAN VOIP for both mobile & office; user choice of which line to dial/primary.
* BBM
- PIN Messaging for importance, immediacy & time critical communications. BBM is the consumer conduit and by FAR is the BEST Social IM in the world. It's been tried to be duplicated and FAILED many a time!
- Their business model is THE ONLY Tri-Messaging Infrastructure in place!
(Domino, Exchange, and GroupWise - the latter hardly used but still VERY relevant: largest Nuclear power company in the USA uses GroupWise!). IntelliSync was the great competitor and Nokia gave that up (licenses the local sync to RIM).
Apple would DREAM to have something like PIN/BBM for their fan-base!!

* Corporate Messaging:
The KING and STILL the best; feature wise not just focusing on HTML which is VASTLY improved with WebKit Engine on BB6 units - yes HTML emails are equal to iOS (and I own BOTH and USE BOTH DAILY: Work = RIM, Play = IOS).

* Intranet coded applications:
- the competition has evolved and offers better economies of scale here so this no longer is a triumph.

There is so much more - and with their Q4 results showing still record unit SALES (not shipments but pure SALES & increased revenue; although profits went down: due to lower profit margins of cheaper handsets lately) their doing well.

I think its a short term fix that will cause long term headaches for RIM.

Unless I misunderstood the press release, the playbook will run android and/or RIM apps.

What will be the motivation for developers to create BlackBerry apps for the playbook when all they have to do is nothing and the playbook will use their android apps.

Going back in history, IBM tried this to entice users/enterprise to embrace OS/2. They marketed the ability of OS/2 to run windows, but the problem was why develop a native OS/2 app when the windows app would work.

BRAVO! Someone who is old enough such as myself that remembers PC history as FACT not conjecture or a wikipedia entry ;).

TO be honest due to provisioning with BES and still a large stronghold, RIM has the corporate market. with 2 1080P HD cameras this is a HUGE boon for the PlayBook and developers WILL go crazy with this … think of corporate Video Conferencing using H.329 … if this can be implemented with Tangren/Polycom/Cisco/Avaya VC equipment and third party developers - then this will grow HUGELY.

As of right now we support iPads in our corporate office and the guys I work with are STILL in the mindset to shun the iPad and have no clue just how powerful and productive this could be.

I'll be posting a new thread for ideas and to work a thesis to go fully iOS for corporate.
 
And if you don't "get" the iPad and what characterizes it as a device that truly sets it apart from its rivals, then you don't get Apple in general. In which case posting your contrarian views on an Apple fansite is pointless. Unless you like being consistently wrong.
You can hardly talk about "being wrong" Mr the-iphone-will-be-the-most-popular-phone-in-a-few-months-or-so.

*LTD*, the only reason we are arguing about the iPad is because you hijacked the thread. This thread is about the BlackBerry PlayBook and Android. Nothing to do with iOS or iPad. Please take your Apple propaganda elsewhere. This forum topic improved dramatically when you were in time-out.
 
LTD, how much does Apple pay you to endlessly defend them and bash and lie about their competition on an internet message board?
 
You continue to not get it. Just like you didn't get it back in January 2010.

This is exactly the kind of confounded and flummoxed thinking that is characteristic of the also-rans. They don't get it either, and end up concentrating on all the wrong things.

And if you don't "get" the iPad and what characterizes it as a device that truly sets it apart from its rivals, then you don't get Apple in general. In which case posting your contrarian views on an Apple fansite is pointless. Unless you like being consistently wrong.

Did you buy an iPad 2 yet? It seems like you are the number 1 Apple supporter on this site, but I don't really know what Apple products you own. I own an iPad 2 64 GB and it is a great device, but I know others are capable of building great devices as well. The Motorola Xoom is a very attractive tablet and if it was made in a WiFi only model I might have given it a try. I love the fact that my iPad can sync easily with my Mac, however iTunes has became so bloated that it is not as seamless as it used to be and I often run into a few quirks when I am trying to sync.

Now back on topic... I think BlackBerry is going the right route with the PlayBook. They have to leverage Android apps if they want to attract a larger group of customers. The fact is that we are basically entering into an Android vs. iOS world and if you want to remain relevant you need to offer a great selection of apps for customers.
 
Did you buy an iPad 2 yet?

I bloody well can't!

Sold out everywhere and when Apple Stores in my area do get stock they're gone almost immediately. I can always order online but I'll keep trying my luck the rest of this week and into the weekend.

The demand for this thing is absolutely ******* insane.

@ tigres:

Here's the working link:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011...-playbook-without-mail-messaging-or-contacts/

Yeah, they're pretty effing clueless over there at RIM. Between two CEOs and three COOs you'd think they can get organized and really step things up. Instead, we see Jim Ballsilie talk about how he doesn't care about "app tonnage" or whatever.

Sad.
 
That describes the iPad 2 launch! Same iOS but just more raw power.

iOS gets it's major upgrade when the iPhone comes out, Of course the iPad wasn't going to get a newer OS right now, same thing happen last year.



It's because Apple can stick their logo on a piece of dog ****, charge $500 for it, and people will line up for blocks.

How about Apple was ready for the market when they brought out the iPad? Theres 65,000 apps for the iPad were the Xoom has 17? http://carpeaqua.com/2011/03/29/an-updated-list-of-android-apps-for-honeycomb/ Maybe that's one of the reason people aren't buying these other tablets.


I don't think the Playbook is going to sell well because it's only seven inches and I seen a lot of reviews saying seven inches is too small. I wounder how the Android apps will look like on the Playbook. Are they going to be blown up apps? Add in the Playbook won't ship with mail, messaging and contacts, how long before they get them in an update?
 
It's because Apple can stick their logo on a piece of dog ****, charge $500 for it, and people will line up for blocks.

This. There isn't anything more special about the iPad than any other modern tablet efforts. Just the hype, and the fashionable Apple logo.

The novelty will wear off. It has begun to already. I'm seeing more and more android based tablets in the shops.

That's what fools say about GUI, mouse, non-beige computer, iPod, and iPhone.

Wait, if you HATE Apple and Apple products, what are you doing on this site?
 
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