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After I read the book last week or so and watching the film again yesterday, some things in the movie make a bit more sense. Plus some of the theories we spoke about also make a lot more sense as well.

Though the book and the movie are very different, but also very similar, they do complement one another in certain areas.
 
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From movie thread:
Every time I watch that film, and get to that scene, it takes my breath away.

One of the finest films ever produced, ask's questions of the audience in an intelligent manner. Rolling now on the media server...

Answer to your question is yes. If one is willing to travel the world to be with another, you will. No rules in love & war...

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Rutger Hauer as Batty deserved an Academy Award for that performance, sadness at losing a comrade, his search for the solution to a four year lifespan, anger and playfulness acting like a wolf in pursuit of a terrified Deckard, and the final monologue.

Of possible interest of the “stated” 4 year Nexus 6 lifespan that replicants have and the debate from the audience side as to why this may not be accurate as a hard and fast limitation. If you look at Rachel, she is a new experimental model. In the sequel 2049, the former Nexus 8s and the current replicant generations have extended lives, but there Neander Wallace is searching for Rachel’s secret, the ability of a replicant to produce offspring, because it would save him a lot of time and effort to takes to manufacture them.


When Deckard and Bryant are talking, Bryant states the short lifespan was deliberately built in to kill the replicants before they develop their own emotional responses. But the conversation between Roy and Tyrell suggests the life span is a consequence of the technology used rather than a deliberate design feature.

An answer:
  • Bryant is talking to Deckard: a man who used to report to him and who he is in a position to force to do things; indeed he also voices the rather unsavory opinion that there are "cops" and "little people". He has no particular need to lie and his character doesn't seem given to subterfuge without reason.
  • Tyrell is in the presence of a being who he knows to be
    • A physical threat even unarmed
    • Mentally very competent (possibly smarter than Tyrell, as he is beating him in chess)
    • Illegally present on the planet and not afraid to kill to get what he wants.
    • Has arranged to have J.F. provide him entry. Tyrell probably thinks of J.F. as a bit simple, but he must wonder what lever was used.
    • Tyrell has a very good reason to lie to Roy Batty--if he thinks he can get away with it--and he seems comfortable with subterfuge, trickery and lies by omission if they suit his purposes.
My note, it could be that Tyrell was telling Batty the truth as far as his personal circumstance, that although a longer life could be designed, for him the die was cast and Batty faced an insurmountable design limit.
 
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