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clevin

macrumors G3
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Aug 6, 2006
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Is that Apple's fault or HP's fault? Hmmm, I wonder. :rolleyes:

well, that is an argument, but it has been used in so many contradicting ways. It really holds no water now.

whose fault aside, if apple is "caring" about that XP users might need to download new drivers if they update to vista, apple sure should also caring about that XP users might have to buy new printer, router, scanner when they swicth to OSX.......

I upgraded a Mac and a Dell to Leopard and Vista. Both are about the same age. Leopard has all the available bells and whistles with the existing hardware. Vista installed, but the cool bells and whistles are not there because the video card needs upgrading and the memory needs a boost. So yeah, "Ask not what Vista can do for you, but what you can buy for Vista."

well, now, if you noticed that ad is asking pc users to switch, would you be kind enough to tell me how much it will cost to "upgrade" that vista machine you mentioned to leopard? and how many peripherals will be working/not working?

also, I would love to know the spec and price of those macs and dells you mentioned. It sounds interesting to me since vista has aero on Intel GMA950, and leopard needs at least 512MB memory (1G to be smooth).

Appearantly you have not tried to use a Mac before.

printer: OS X comes with drivers for most common printers. XP (some drivers), Vista, minimal

Webcam: most macs has built-in webcams. No need to tape a monster to the top of your CRT.

Video card: already installed. No need to hunt down different drivers.

soundcard: no need for additional sound card. The soundcard that comes with the Mac has zero-noticeable-noise (unlike those that comes with PCs). And all the macs has OPTICAL OUTPUT integrated.

You are the one who has the facts wrong.

Guess the white laptop on my office table with an apple logo is ..... a rock? also, the round, big, heavy, allinone, green thing with a iMac name on it is a ...bigger rock?

apparently you have no idea that half of the printers in the market don't support mac.

apparently you have no idea some mac's video card is replaceable and some mac users actually want to upgrade them

I give you camera sound card tho.

also apparently you have no idea those pc v mac ads are not targeted at existing mac users. what do you think?
 

saltyzoo

macrumors 65816
Oct 4, 2007
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well, now, if you noticed that ad is asking pc users to switch, would you be kind enough to tell me how much it will cost to "upgrade" that vista machine you mentioned to leopard? and how many peripherals will be working/not working?
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This is totally wrong. The ad is not saying it will be cheaper to switch to Mac than to get Vista working.

It is saying that if you switch to mac you won't have to buy new hardware every time a new OS comes out.

But somehow I suspect you already know that.
 

clevin

macrumors G3
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Aug 6, 2006
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This is totally wrong. The ad is not saying it will be cheaper to switch to Mac than to get Vista working.
well,... only if the ad has a clear message like you said
It is saying that if you switch to mac you won't have to buy new hardware every time a new OS comes out.

consider for users for s sec, XP-> vista: 6 years, during which time, mac users got OSX 10.0-> 10.5, do users really spend less on mac side?

I would like to see some data on this.
 

Masquerade

macrumors 6502a
May 16, 2007
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Why would you need your pc hardware on a Mac? Macs are an all in one computer, remember? :p

Also, most external hardware works on a Mac by just plugging it in. No software. I've used a bunch of hardware on my Mac and I didn't need to install software, just plug it in.

its also true that a mac os x typical installation puts about 3GB of printer drivers on your disk and the system wont ever ask you if you want to update that driver if needed
 

DeaconGraves

macrumors 65816
Apr 25, 2007
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well,... only if the ad has a clear message like you said

Please go back and watch the ad. I just did and noticed something. You'll note that the only mention of Macs in the ad is that Leopard has "dozens of new features." Nowhere does it suggest that Macs work better than PCs, are more compatible than PCs, or that Leopard is better than Vista.

The only thing this ad (and the other two just released) suggest is that the public appears to have been really disappointed in Vista. The message of the ad (as I see it) is "If you haven't liked Vista, why don't you give a Mac a try?"

Since Vista came out about a year ago, this campaign has taken a dramatic shift from "Macs work better than PCs" to "Vista stinks" Regardless of your opinion on that declaration, you're reading way too much into one line that anyone who's taken basic American history will recognize.
 
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