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Blu Ray Rip To Mac/Apple TV Help
- Thread starter Mr. Incredible
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Just to be clear, you're saying that Plex and XBMC will both pass-through lossless audio to an AVR?
No, no Mac software has the ability to passthrough HD (True-HD, DTS-MA) audio. Only AC3 DD or DTS 5.1 can be passed through the optical (or coaxial if you have a hackintosh) port.
Well, what developers do we need to light a fire under to get this done? Plex? Apple? Someone else?
I'd bet the ffmpeg crew is who'd need to do it. That's the playback engine for Plex, XBMC and a host of other apps. I really doubt Apple will do it; you won't see HD audio in any of their downloads any time soon.
According to this page xbmc can http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMC_Features_and_Supported_Formats/Codecs
Edit, ok my wrong sorry Windows and Linux yes on a Mac no.
Edit, ok my wrong sorry Windows and Linux yes on a Mac no.
I don't see True-HD or DTS-MA (or DTS-HD) on that page. Where are you seeing HD audio referenced for Win or Linux?
After a quick look into this looks like for now Only the HD5xxx series cards, the Intel core i3/i5 with integrated HD graphics and the Nvidia GTX460 support bitstreaming HD audio
I have a problem. The enclosure has an Audio wire, but the Samsung Blu-Ray drive doesn't have a port for that wire. Do I just leave it alone, or what?
no need to worry about it, as you have nowhere to plug it intoI have a problem. The enclosure has an Audio wire, but the Samsung Blu-Ray drive doesn't have a port for that wire. Do I just leave it alone, or what?
its just for the drive to have audio - but it is provided through the SATA data cable anyway.Ok, well, forget about the audio port. The Blu Ray Reader came with a USB cord, and a SATA cord, I just need the USB cord to make it all work, right? I didn't even bother using the SATA cord, cause I can't find a socket for it.
When I tried putting in my Dark Knight blu Ray inside my iMac, the CD wouldn't even show itself on the Desktop, but when I used the Blu-Ray Reader, it showed a CD icon on my desktop with the abbreviations BD (Instead of SD), or was it BR? Not sure, but it was with a B.
So, I'm good to go, right? I just need to rip it with MakeMKV, and then use Handbrake with the 720p setting, Apple TV setting, and I'm good, right?
When I tried putting in my Dark Knight blu Ray inside my iMac, the CD wouldn't even show itself on the Desktop, but when I used the Blu-Ray Reader, it showed a CD icon on my desktop with the abbreviations BD (Instead of SD), or was it BR? Not sure, but it was with a B.
So, I'm good to go, right? I just need to rip it with MakeMKV, and then use Handbrake with the 720p setting, Apple TV setting, and I'm good, right?
I haven't done it yet. I have The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray, but it has a Digital Copy, so I just used the code to get it from iTunes. My friend is going to let me borrow a few Blu-Rays (Transformers 1&2, Star Trek, & Up). Once I get those, I'll see if it works.
My cousin is advising me to first try it out on my The Dark Knight blu-ray, even though I got the digital copy, just to see if I'm able to do it, and if it works. I might try it out tomorrow.
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The NewEgg Samsung drive mentioned for $79.99 has been replaced with a newer faster drive from Samsung the SH-B123L which Amazon has for $77!
The NewEgg Samsung drive mentioned for $79.99 has been replaced with a newer faster drive from Samsung the SH-B123L which Amazon has for $77!
Incredible- I'm going to go piece by piece and tell you what's wrong with your explanation. I'm not trying to seem "holier than thou" I'm simply pointing out your flagrant misunderstandings of the law:
1st Statement
-No, nothing illegal about downloading free ripping programs, torrenting a software available for sale however, is illegal. You are stealing someone else's intellectual property. Someone wrote code with the intention of making a profit, and you took it illegally, giving that developer nothing, which is stealing at it's very definition.
2nd Statement
-Borrowing Blu Rays from friends and ripping them to your computer is wrong because, like above, someone created material with the intent of earning a profit, you now have the ability to enjoy that material while not paying for it. Arguing that you and your friends have done the same thing with CDs "countless times" is as foolhearty as your initial argument, because it justifies nothing. That's like justifying stealing cars now because you've been stealing bikes your whole life. Just because a large amount of the population does something doesn't make it legal, if you need proof research Germany in the early 1940's...I agree with you though, that doing this with Blu Rays is the same thing as ripping CD's, but they are BOTH illegal.
3rd Statement
-It makes no difference to me whether you or your cousin rent dvds for your ripping pleasure, the problem is that you are RENTING material, that you in turn are going to rip and then illegally OWN property. There's a reason there's a difference between the cost to rent something and the cost to buy something, because one is meant to be temporary. Paying a rental fee does not justify ripping, because the studio is not getting what is the "fair market value" for your ownership. Yes, the prices of buying movies does decline over time, and if that's your justification, wait and buy the movie when the price drops...but you don't want to, because you want it when it's new...that's why the price is higher, because demand is higher. That is simple economics: demand drives price. Your value of worth has nothing to do with what is "right" as far as price is concerned unless you can get the seller (which by the way, all this time is still the movie studios/distribution companies) to agree to your price, which is simple contract law. And similarly, your argument about "already getting ripped off by the cinemas" is no more valid than anything else you've said thus far. Whether or not you agree with the price, and have seen the move in the theaters has no bearing on the purchase price of a movie. If it did, when you walked out of a theater, there'd be a box full of dvds of the movie you just watched for all viewers to grab on their way out...but there's not because DVD is a revenue stream for these companies. Lastly, the prices are set by the individual movie theater, so if you have a complaint about the price, complain to them...and the popcorn and soda has nothing to do with your right to own the movie either and is your most unrelated argument yet.
4th Statement
-You are not a naive consumer, correct, instead you have not taken a smarter approach, but an illegal one. There is no arguing there, it is ILLEGAL to rip movies to your hard drive that you do not own. As another example, ripping a movie, even if you pay to rent it, is like renting a car, and then never bringing it back...Dollar amount is different but the spirit is the same.
5th Statement
-You are paying your friends a nominal fee to rent material that is not actually theirs. It doesn't matter if you pay your friends anything or not. In fact, if you're paying them, legally, they should be reporting that income on their tax returns which I also doubt is happening. From your payments to your friends for your right to borrow and rip the movie, the creators/distributors of those movies get nothing for that, but now 2 different users have their product. Now this would not be an argument if you just straight bought the DVD from your friends, as just one copy would have changed ownership from them to you. This would still be illegal though, if your friends maintained ownership of a ripped copy of the movie after selling you the hard copy, for all the reasons listed above.
6th Statement
-No, you are nowhere near the only person doing this, and good for you for admitting doing it...but it's still illegal. If you stole someone's car and then announced it on the internet, wouldn't it still be wrong? You are still benefiting from someone else's work without paying THEM for it.
Again, I'm not saying that what your doing is the worst crime in the world, but I am saying that ripping movies you don't own is illegal. You are stealing property from someone who's entire purpose of creating it was to sell and make money off of. Theoretically, if everyone did what you did, eventually 1 of 2 things would happen:
1) The royalties a rental company would have to pay for the ability to rent movies would rise substantially, to the point that the cost to rent would equal the current cost to buy due to the lack of sales revenue
2) The movie industry would become unprofitable and they'd simply stop making movies.
I'm simply asking you to understand that what you're doing is indeed illegal and that you stop this utterly ignorant defiance that you're not doing anything wrong.
Fine, I guess what I'm doing is illegal, but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna stop.
I kind of regret saying what I said, although I'm sure that many people here (maybe even you), have done something similar to what I'm doing at some point in their life, the only difference is that I actually came clean with what I'm doing. Eh.
Hey, thanks. That was the entire point I was trying to make. I'm not preaching at you to stop or anything, just letting you know the facts. Also it should be noted that the companies are trying to put a stop to illegally acquiring their content, such as the company that produced "The Hurt Locker" sued 5,000 of people who torrented the movie...don't know how they'd ever come after someone doing what you're doing (again there are millions of people doing what you are), but just know that they're trying to find a way. Anyway, thanks for being respectful in your response, as when I saw you responded I was expecting something rude, so it was a breath of fresh air see your comment.
i also believe some of the HD Prince of Persia movies were being watched by the ISPs (and Hollywood) - i know a couple of friends that got hitup from them.
having listened to your opinion (which are facts, but an opinion nonetheless), i noticed you didnt state that it is piracy. i personally believe that downloading of movies, etc is not piracy. do you believe with my view?
also - i will point out that in Australia, if you cannot find the digital product that you are looking for in stores, from a dealer, etc (and have looked hard enough), then by law it is legal to look on the internet for it.
It was only my opinion as much as interpretation of the law is open to opinion...which of course is. I was just trying to get Mr Incredible to understand what he was doing, not necessarily get him to stop...similar to speeding on a freeway...it's a law that is commonly broken, but still a law. I did not specifically comment on it being "piracy" because I am not sure if it is or not. To respond to your post (which sorry it was so delayed, I just hadn't been to this forum) I looked up the definition so I could form my opinion...here is the definition of digital piracy: "Copyright infringement (or copyright violation) is the unauthorized or prohibited use of works covered by copyright law, in a way that violates one of the copyright owner's exclusive rights, such as the right to reproduce or perform the copyrighted work, or to make derivative works." Based solely on that definition, my opinion would be that no, downloading copyrighted content from the web is not necessarily piracy...it is however still pirated work and "unauthorized use" of that material. I'd guess that this definition is probably why when the big Napster lawsuits were happening, they went after people who were SHARING large libraries, rather than people who had downloaded large libraries, because those sharing were the people guilty of "piracy".
That said though, like the above mentioned "Hurt Locker" cases, and Prince of Persia, the studios are trying to crack down on users of the illegal content, not just the "pirates".
And to answer your last comment, I didn't know of that law in Australia, but I can understand it. If you made a good faith effort to BUY content, and just couldn't due to unavailability, then theoretically it makes downloading the content a "victimless crime" and potentially not a crime at all, because you didn't acquire a product someone was trying to sell for nothing.
MakeMKV Is NOT Working
Well, I haven't used it for months, but when I tried, it said that my version was outdated (v. 1.6.0), and that I had to upgrade to version 1.6.3.
After upgrading to version to 1.6.3, I put MY INCEPTION Blu Ray dvd inside. I clicked the backup dvd button (I didn't click the decryption button though, was I supposed to?)
And it ripped my bluray, and i saved it in a file, and its over 40GB in size.
The only problem is, is that I see 3 folders:
AACS
BDMV
CERTIFICATE
Inside the BDMV folder is a STREAM folder, and inside that, there are many files, ranging from a few KB to a few GB. There are 9 files with over 1GB in size, and at least 4 over 4GB in size. I opened Hand Brake and clicked on the largest file (5.55GB), and it said that the file can't be located. I tried opening a lot of them, but Handbrake wouldn't do it.
I tried re-ripping the bluray, but it says that my trial period finished (after 1 use?), and that i have to buy the key to keep using it. I don't got money to shell out.
Is there any other ways I can rip my Blu Ray dvds? I finally got one that I want to do, and its not working.
Help, please?
Well, I haven't used it for months, but when I tried, it said that my version was outdated (v. 1.6.0), and that I had to upgrade to version 1.6.3.
After upgrading to version to 1.6.3, I put MY INCEPTION Blu Ray dvd inside. I clicked the backup dvd button (I didn't click the decryption button though, was I supposed to?)
And it ripped my bluray, and i saved it in a file, and its over 40GB in size.
The only problem is, is that I see 3 folders:
AACS
BDMV
CERTIFICATE
Inside the BDMV folder is a STREAM folder, and inside that, there are many files, ranging from a few KB to a few GB. There are 9 files with over 1GB in size, and at least 4 over 4GB in size. I opened Hand Brake and clicked on the largest file (5.55GB), and it said that the file can't be located. I tried opening a lot of them, but Handbrake wouldn't do it.
I tried re-ripping the bluray, but it says that my trial period finished (after 1 use?), and that i have to buy the key to keep using it. I don't got money to shell out.
Is there any other ways I can rip my Blu Ray dvds? I finally got one that I want to do, and its not working.
Help, please?
Yes you must select Decrypt. Otherwise HB can't handle files to begin with.
Took me about 1:30 hours to create backup File with MakeMKV
Once completed, selected Folder and HB read in 16 Chapters. I think the only problem was you didn't decrypt it.
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Whenever I click on the Decrypt button, it says that my trial is finished or something like that, and just doesn't allow me to do it. :/