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wow, great thread

what a great thread I started for my first ever posting, wow did not realise it was all so contentious. keep the debate going guys, all very interesting.
Barrie
 
Well, considering the current rate of sales of PS3 systems (selling out all over) it's easy to see how Blu-Ray will at least be maintained. XBOX 360's, for instance, have replaceable drives whereas PS3's are built-in and required (game disks are Blu-Ray). Also, Blu-Ray production is ramping up with new fabs in the US, one in Spokane Washington (name:Blue-Ray, look it up).

Personally, I think the end will see Blu-Ray victorious.

lol I'm not sure where you're looking but every major retailer in my area has plenty of PS3's available. Some are being sold but they won't be a hot item until they step up and put out some killer exclusives.
 
DVD SP supports neither or both

Once the HD DVD option is selected, DVD SP has an option to select "blue laser"

So both formates can be authored but neither format can be burned to disk. Sure you can burn about 20 minutes onto a DVD-5 but that is not really burning an "HD DVD"

Further proof that Apple much like most consumers is still on the fence.

Of course, all this is in theory as I have yet to try anything with the "Blue Laser" option selected.
 
Once the HD DVD option is selected, DVD SP has an option to select "blue laser"

So both formates can be authored but neither format can be burned to disk. Sure you can burn about 20 minutes onto a DVD-5 but that is not really burning an "HD DVD"

Further proof that Apple much like most consumers is still on the fence.

Of course, all this is in theory as I have yet to try anything with the "Blue Laser" option selected.

HD DVD and BD both use blue laser tech. You can burn a HD DVD with a red laser that can only be read by an HD DVD player. AFAIK the file structure is different for HD DVD and BD (which is why toshiba is making such a stink), so if you were able to author both it will say HD DVD or BD.
 
HD DVD and BD both use blue laser tech. You can burn a HD DVD with a red laser that can only be read by an HD DVD player. AFAIK the file structure is different for HD DVD and BD (which is why toshiba is making such a stink), so if you were able to author both it will say HD DVD or BD.

I may be wrong as I have very little experience with authoring Hi Def DVDs of either format, but I thought HD DVD still uses a red laser, and that makes current DVD compatible with the new players. Thus a standard DVD-5 authored as an HD DVD will work.

I think only Blu-ray uses the blue laser.

Again I am not positive, but now would be a good time to get some clarification. I am just now starting to experiment with different options for delivering HD and I would like to get some sort of HD delivery worked out one way or the other.

I just checked wikipedia, and you are right, both formats use blue laser.
 
HD DVD and BD both use blue laser tech. You can burn a HD DVD with a red laser that can only be read by an HD DVD player. AFAIK the file structure is different for HD DVD and BD (which is why toshiba is making such a stink), so if you were able to author both it will say HD DVD or BD.

Yes. In fact, they both use the exact same laser. With different lenses, which is why BD can offer 67% more space per layer.

I am sure that DVI is able to support HDCP. It isn't mandatory (on either DVI or HDMI) so it isn't garunteed to work on every DVI equipped item.
Well, it is mandatory on HDMI. Otherwise all that is 100% correct.
 
I am sure that DVI is able to support HDCP. It isn't mandatory (on either DVI or HDMI) so it isn't garunteed to work on every DVI equipped item.

I would also like to take the time to make sure everyone realizes BDand or HD DVD support will cause Apple to have to go down the same route Vista went down with the PVP. AFAIK those will be needed to not have to have reduced resolution due to the ICT flag.

Verdammit!

I was hoping for HDMI in future Mac laptops. I would love to reduce the number of cables going in and out of mine. Digital sound and picture out from one cable would have been awesome.
 
Verdammit!

I was hoping for HDMI in future Mac laptops. I would love to reduce the number of cables going in and out of mine. Digital sound and picture out from one cable would have been awesome.

HDMI can still happen. Of course, IMO, it would be much more useful if the MB/MBP could actually encode and output 5.1 surround sound (kinda like this card). Instead of the passthrough that it does now.
 
Is it possible to use the 360's HD player on a Mac yet? I seem to remember that the stumbling block was a lack of software player/codecs the last time I looked.
 
to the OP:
the answer is blu-ray, and NOW!
just kidding, but this is a story regarding last weeks black friday sales:

The high-definition format war tilted even more heavily in favor of Blu-ray Disc despite a rash of inexpensive HD DVD players sold through Wal-Mart and other discount retailers in recent weeks. Nielsen VideoScan data for the week shows 72.6% of high-definition discs purchased by consumers were Blu-ray and just 27.4% were HD DVD. HD DVD players have been selling for as little as $98, one-fourth the lowest street price for a Blu-ray player.

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