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skratch77

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I know many will say who cares but the geeks in us want to brag about benchmarks and even the apple folks like braging when there soc scores higher.

We have some benchmarks coming in from the s800 note 3 and so far it the fastest cell out! Can't wait to compare it with the octo core exynos evolved version to see how the krait compared to the true pure bread a15s in the exynos version.


http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-first-benchmarks-scores-of-samsung-galaxy-note-3-are-in/

Ohh goshh Samsung just confirms the octo core can use all 8 cores at once in the new exynos evolved soc in the note 3


http://m.androidauthority.com/samsu...ta-can-use-eight-cores-simultaneously-267316/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrSTJECVaU
 
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skratch77

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Stop making me want this phone when I really don't need it... :)

I'm trying to pre order it on Verizon but the site is overloaded and it won't even let me sign in.

They say shipped by 10/10 and its 299 for the 32gb version with a 2 year!
 

skratch77

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Does the iPhone need to address more than 4gb of ram. No? Than 64 bit is a giant waste.

Talk about fragmentation too! Apple just fragmented there Eco system way worse then android has ever been.

Now devs will need to code for 32 and 64 but versions of Facebook and twitter!
 

mellofello

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Wow in many tests it is 4x faster then note 2. I have had no complaints how quick my note 2 is so this should be amazingly fast. Face book is gonna fly on this bad boy.:D
 

bbeagle

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What good is 64 bit when it has 4 cores running at 2.3 GHz!

Bragging about cores and GHz means absolutely nothing. It makes me laugh inside when people think these numbers mean anything.

If the chips inside were the same, then cores and GHz would be relevant, but they aren't, and thus the numbers really don't mean much, it's comparing apples and oranges.

For example, treat GHz (number of instructions a processor can execute per second) to RPM (number of revolutions per minute)... If one car can go 200RPM, and another can go 2000 RPM, the one going 2000 RPM is surely faster ?

Not at all. On could be a scooter with small wheels, and the other is a monster truck with huge wheels. The scooter's wheels are going 10x faster, but the distance travelled by the monster truck in the same time is greater, because the wheels take it further with less turns per minute.

Cores could be treated like number of wheels, and the chip is like the engine. All matter when put together, an numbers don't tell the whole story. The best we can do are benchmark scores.
 

skratch77

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Bragging about cores and GHz means absolutely nothing. It makes me laugh inside when people think these numbers mean anything.

If the chips inside were the same, then cores and GHz would be relevant, but they aren't, and thus the numbers really don't mean much, it's comparing apples and oranges.

For example, treat GHz (number of instructions a processor can execute per second) to RPM (number of revolutions per minute)... If one car can go 200RPM, and another can go 2000 RPM, the one going 2000 RPM is surely faster ?

Not at all. On could be a scooter with small wheels, and the other is a monster truck with huge wheels. The scooter's wheels are going 10x faster, but the distance travelled by the monster truck in the same time is greater, because the wheels take it further with less turns per minute.

Cores could be treated like number of wheels, and the chip is like the engine. All matter when put together, an numbers don't tell the whole story. The best we can do are benchmark scores.

Thanks for the quicky and we all know exactly what cores mean and how the exynos soc uses pure arm a15 cores that clock for clock have about 15-20% instruction per clock improvement over the snap dragon krait a9/a15 hybrid

Tell that to a server farm running 64 CPU clusters using more cores for more raw power.

I would take a quad core snapdragon at 2.3ghz running 32bit over a dual core a7 64bit chip any day of the week.

The exynos octo core will also out perform its own snapdragon version and Samsung finally fixed it and it can now run all 8 cores at once!

So would you take an arm quad a15 quad a7 at 1.8ghz or a dual core a7 64 bit soc from apple?
 

Cnasty

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But is it made out of gold????

golden_boy.jpg
 

Applefan4

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The real life usage speed is what matters most, not benchmarks. There are many "real life" usage comparisons on you tube that shows that iPhone 5 matches or outperforms droids that were released this year.
 

ChrisTX

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Let's hope this phone doesn't suffer the same lag the GS4 does! I'm really considering this phone but can't have a laggy phone. :cool:
 

blackhand1001

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The real life usage speed is what matters most, not benchmarks. There are many "real life" usage comparisons on you tube that shows that iPhone 5 matches or outperforms droids that were released this year.

No not really. Especially since iPhone uses really long drawn out animations to hide loading times. Go compare the moto x/droid maxx to the iPhone. Its not crazy specces but it just as smooth as the iPhone and loading times are much shorter.
 

watchthisspace

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Now devs will need to code for 32 and 64 but versions of Facebook and twitter!

In the keynote, the guys who make Infinity Blade mentioned with Apple's tools, they were able to convert the game from 32bit to 64bit, in 2 hours. An only one dev did that task.

I don't think fragmentation will be an issue over 64bit.
 

appledes7

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Does the iPhone need to address more than 4gb of ram. No? Than 64 bit is a giant waste.

Ya thinking ahead sure is a giant waste :cool:

In the keynote, the guys who make Infinity Blade mentioned with Apple's tools, they were able to convert the game from 32bit to 64bit, in 2 hours. An only one dev did that task.

I don't think fragmentation will be an issue over 64bit.

Thats good to hear. I expect Android will make the jump within the next couple of years too.

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Especially since iPhone uses really long drawn out animations to hide loading times.

You have no idea how real time GPU rendering works.
 

Carlanga

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Talk about fragmentation too! Apple just fragmented there Eco system way worse then android has ever been.

Now devs will need to code for 32 and 64 but versions of Facebook and twitter!

64 bit iPhones can run 32 bit applications and apps can be upgraded to 64 rather easily according to the keynote. so there should be 0 fragmentation.


I like android tablets not so much android phones... While the Note is cool, it's just wayyy too big and I'm not a fan of man purses...
 

Apollo 13

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of course it's going to look like it's 4x faster then the Note 2 when Samsung is programming the device to cheat in benchmarks. Will it really be 4x faster then the Note 2? NO it will not.
 
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