bow to the new king!!! benchmarking inside note 3 takes all octo core can use all 8

[skratch77]

Are you sure?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review

5S A7 is a DUAL CORE chip that beats the G2's Snapdragon 800 and HANDILY beats the GS4 (at least my US version) in Geekbench 3.

Hey - if these idiotic benchmark wars are going to continue, I might as well brag when my side wins. ESPECIALLY when they do it with an INFERIOR DUAL CORE chip.

Lol.....you just got learned.

I don't have time to read the review but the gs4 and lg g2 are not on 4.3 so no open gl 3.0 support and the benchmark I think the dual core chip you are talking about is a gpu bench not a cpu bench

wait for official note 3 benchmarks to come out before you get super excited that your side is winning!

ps the note 3 already has a leaked gpu Egypt bench out gunning the a7 by 12fps in the off screen run

sunspider is a java benchmark and not a cpu bench mark also and my old nexus with an a9 dual core chip out scores my gs4 because its using a better java engine

 

[sviato]

8 cores? Maybe now Android won't stutter when swiping through home screen pages

 

[jrswizzle]

I don't have time to read the review but the gs4 and lg g2 are not on 4.3 so no open gl 3.0 support and the benchmark I think the dual core chip you are talking about is a gpu bench not a cpu bench

wait for official note 3 benchmarks to come out before you get super excited that your side is winning!

ps the note 3 already has a leaked gpu Egypt bench out gunning the a7 by 12fps in the off screen run

sunspider is a java benchmark and not a cpu bench mark also and my old nexus with an a9 dual core chip out scores my gs4 because its using a better java engine

If you can't be bothered to read it, don't post about things you don't know.

 

[imaginex20]

if most modern day PC's can't even take advantage of 8 cores what makes you think a phone will? Most apps besides photo/video apps can't/don't even take advantage of multiple core processors. Obviously the OP doesn't know much about specs when he has to compare cores to ram and threads vs 32/64 bit.

 

[unobtainium]

I don't have time to read the review

Anandtech does an amazing in-depth analysis of the A7 SoC. If you haven't read it yet, you should.

 

[ChrisTX]

I don't have time to read the review but the gs4 and lg g2 are not on 4.3 so no open gl 3.0 support and the benchmark I think the dual core chip you are talking about is a gpu bench not a cpu bench

wait for official note 3 benchmarks to come out before you get super excited that your side is winning!

ps the note 3 already has a leaked gpu Egypt bench out gunning the a7 by 12fps in the off screen run

sunspider is a java benchmark and not a cpu bench mark also and my old nexus with an a9 dual core chip out scores my gs4 because its using a better java engine

According to Gizmofo, the iPhone 5S A7 handily runs laps around even the Samsung Exynos Octa. Android fans wanna brag about specs, until the iPhone wins. Then all of the sudden, "Specs don't matter".

 

[bobenhaus]

Is it 64 bit though

Does it really matter?? Most apps need to be optimized and there is not much in performance except for handling more memory. BTW Samsung made the new A7 CPU for Apple. So don't really know what you meant by 64bit??

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According to Gizmofo, the iPhone 5S A7 handily runs laps around even the Samsung Exynos Octa. Android fans wanna brag about specs, until the iPhone wins. Then all of the sudden, "Specs don't matter".

Yeah everyone should be praising Samsung for making the A7 for Apple

 

[tbayrgs]

Does it really matter?? Most apps need to be optimized and there is not much in performance except for handling more memory. BTW Samsung made the new A7 CPU for Apple. So don't really know what you meant by 64bit??

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Yeah everyone should be praising Samsung for making the A7 for Apple

Yes, Samsung manufactured it. Who do you think designed it?

 

[F123D]

Yes, Samsung manufactured it. Who do you think designed it?

Samsung's former chip designer that apple hired?

 

[tbayrgs]

Samsung's former chip designer that apple hired?

Touche!!

 

[thunng8]

Samsung's former chip designer that apple hired?

Samsung actually do not design their own CPU cores - so far their own SOCs integrate ARM based cores (ie. ARM A9 in the s2, s3 and Note 2 and A15 in the s4, note 3). Even then, at least for the vast Marjority of markets that have LTE coverage, they are using Qualcomm's wholly designed Snapdragon SOCs.

Not saying that might change in the future .. but that is how it is at the moment.

 

[technowar]

Does it really matter?? Most apps need to be optimized and there is not much in performance except for handling more memory. BTW Samsung made the new A7 CPU for Apple. So don't really know what you meant by 64bit??

Does Android supports quad/octo cores?

 

[Technarchy]

8 cores? Maybe now Android won't stutter when swiping through home screen pages

A very simple thing, and even with all that horsepower under the hood my gs4 chokes too often when scrolling between home screens.

 

[adder7712]

Samsung actually do not design their own CPU cores - so far their own SOCs integrate ARM based cores (ie. ARM A9 in the s2, s3 and Note 2 and A15 in the s4, note 3). Even then, at least for the vast Marjority of markets that have LTE coverage, they are using Qualcomm's wholly designed Snapdragon SOCs.

Not saying that might change in the future .. but that is how it is at the moment.

I've read they might move on to manufacturing and designing their own ARM-derived chips.

 

[Dmaynard83]

8 cores? Maybe now Android won't stutter when swiping through home screen pages

Probably not. I feel like the lag is on the software side of things. Hopefully Kit Kat fixes it.

 

[bobenhaus]

Does Android supports quad/octo cores?

ummm yes. Samsung GS4 is comes either 4 or 8 core. The new MotoX is 8 core as well. ALso all the new ANdorids will be starting to rollout 8 cores. Dunno but Android is not late to the 8x party.

 

[technowar]

ummm yes. Samsung GS4 is comes either 4 or 8 core. The new MotoX is 8 core as well. ALso all the new ANdorids will be starting to rollout 8 cores. Dunno but Android is not late to the 8x party.

I think you misunderstood my question. Yes, the phone does support multi-core processors. But my question is, does Android supports it - and what I mean about Android is the OS.

 

[jrswizzle]

A very simple thing, and even with all that horsepower under the hood my gs4 chokes too often when scrolling between home screens.

Do you use NovaPrime?

I don't experience any stuttering on my GS4 and I'm running NovaPrime. At some point I'll get around to changing the god-awful icons....

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ummm yes. Samsung GS4 is comes either 4 or 8 core. The new MotoX is 8 core as well. ALso all the new ANdorids will be starting to rollout 8 cores. Dunno but Android is not late to the 8x party.

Uhh I thought the MotoX was a dual core phone?

http://www.motorola.com/us/FLEXR1-1/moto-x-specifications.html

"Architecture

Motorola X8 Mobile Computing System which includes a software optimized Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro (1.7GHz Dual-Core Krait CPU, quad-core Adreno 320 GPU), a natural language processor and a contextual computing processor"

The anandtech review of the 5S actually mentions the MotoX as being an Android phone which does a great job at maximizing efficiency with two cores. It, along with the 5S, are proof that quad core (or even octa core) isn't better if the cores are crap.

 

[thunng8]

Samsung stoops to new lows with the benchmark cheating.

It is safe to say all results from the Note 3 can be disregarded.

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/galaxy-note-3s-benchmarking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/

 

[LSUtigers03]

Probably not. I feel like the lag is on the software side of things. Hopefully Kit Kat fixes it.

In my experience it's more of a Touchwiz problem than an Android problem. My Moto X has a lowly dual core processor and never lags because it's pretty much stock Android. While my S4 would lag doing the simplest things. The HTC One and One Mini are also very smooth. Samsung really needs to overhaul Touchwiz. It looks terrible and it drags down even the most powerful processors.

 

[adder7712]

Samsung stoops to new lows with the benchmark cheating.

It is safe to say all results from the Note 3 can be disregarded.

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/galaxy-note-3s-benchmarking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/

Still a fast phone regardless. Considering the G2 was swift and the actual scores are actually close to the G2.

 

[ReallyBigFeet]

But the question remains: why would Samsung deliberately take the time to spoof their code specifically to manipulate benchmarking scores? Is it possible that they realize how many consumers are gullible enough to believe that the "specs matter the most" message that they intentionally use this instead of bettering their products?

Why would you invest the time to do this unless you were being specifically manipulative in some way?

 

[F123D]

Still a fast phone regardless. Considering the G2 was swift and the actual scores are actually close to the G2.

The ironic thing is, even with the benchmark booster disabled, the Note 3 still comes out faster than the G2 in this test. If the intent behind the boosting was simply to ensure that the Note 3 came out ahead in the benchmark race, it doesn't appear to have been necessary in the first place.

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But the question remains: why would Samsung deliberately take the time to spoof their code specifically to manipulate benchmarking scores? Is it possible that they realize how many consumers are gullible enough to believe that the "specs matter the most" message that they intentionally use this instead of bettering their products?

Idk, to brag? Still pointless since no one buys a phone due to benchmark scores. Benchmarks aside, people can't honestly say the Note 3 isn't a better product than the Note 2.

 

[ReallyBigFeet]

Idk, to brag? Still pointless since no one buys a phone due to benchmark scores. Benchmarks aside, people can't honestly say the Note 3 isn't a better product than the Note 2.

I think there is a certain percentage of the population that buys SPECIFICALLY due to benchmarking scores and specs. Just like a certain percentage of the population buys gold-colored phones. But the fact remains I find it incredulous that Samsung would go so far as to change their code specifically JUST to manipulate these scores and, by default, this percentage of the population.

Unless, of course, the percentage is actually much higher than I believe it to be. In which case, it makes sense as manipulating the gullible is always a sound strategy.

 

[MACis122]

I'm doubtful of this as the GP edition of the GS4 and touchwiz version have pretty much the same benchmarks and perform almost identical.