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Brand New Mac Pro - Owner
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How does one tell which is which? I have someone PMing me with a pair of 5365 but, is unsure what "model".
If you mean the speed stepping, like SLAEG, it is imprinted on some of the chips, if you mean model number like X5365 that is imprinted on all of them.
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How about these?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=X5355+SLAEG+2.66GHz+Quad+Core&LH_PrefLoc=1
Go from a dual to quad. I assume I wouldn't have to do anything but swap them out? If that's the case, I might get this soon.
Is it worth it?
They would all be fine.
Is it worth it? Depends what you use it for. If it's a 'light usage' machine (word processing, web browsing etc.) you won't see much difference. If you do stuff like video encoding, 3d modelling, software development involving big code compiles etc. you'll see almost double the performance.
i can edit 5k epic footage with color and effects in full res
mines not as old as yours, but just thought i'd rub it in
Congrats on the machine, MP are awesome.
The only thing I would like to ask about is why that model? The reason is not because its bad machine but because its (or very very soon will be) vintage and Apple won't support it so if something goes wrong you will have hard time getting it fixed.
Was it really that cheap or is there another reason behind it?
I had 2008 model and also 2010 model but if I was buying used one now I wouldn't go as far as 2006 just because of the repair trouble.
So, may I ask why that one, please?
The only thing I would like to ask about is why that model? The reason is not because its bad machine but because its (or very very soon will be) vintage and Apple won't support it so if something goes wrong you will have hard time getting it fixed.
Was it really that cheap or is there another reason behind it?
I had 2008 model and also 2010 model but if I was buying used one now I wouldn't go as far as 2006 just because of the repair trouble.
So, may I ask why that one, please?
I own a Pro 1,1 like the OP. Since I can repair whatever comes up myself, that wasn't an issue for me. I got a good price on mine. It is certainly fun to dig into them and push them to what they can do, without breaking the bank.
I figured if nothing else I could put a wintel board in it, and make a hackintosh, love it's case.
For some of us 1,1 owners it's about price point opportunity (ie. right price, right time)
For some it's about a fun project.
For some others, it's both.
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Very cool. I don't do anything BIG (production movies or the like) but, I do small eating challenges and it takes about 45 minutes or so for a 5 min movie on my Macbook (with SSD). So maybe this upgrade will be worth it as the MP is a Server and work station.
Thank you, yes, they are awesome, I just wish I could afford a new model one (2010 or so). I got this one on a deal that I couldn't pass up. A missing hard drive was the only thing wrong with it.
So that's why I went with the 2006 MP1,1.
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I feel that I am the same way. I plan to upgrade the CPUs and whatever else. So if anything breaks in the future, I will fix/replace it myself. Having never worked on a MP, I'm sure with all the help files/videos and taking my time, I can do it. I replaced/added drives to a 2011 mac mini and with the MP being so much bigger, should be easy.
with the MP being so much bigger, should be easy.
Just watch out for the heatsink screws when you replace the cpus. They're a pain in the ass and made of rather soft metal.
Noted for sure. I'm still waiting for a PM back on a matched set. Hopefully I'll hear back in a week or so. He/she seems pretty busy.
Right here....Thanks for the info. I will see how much it goes up this next month. If it's to high, the wife will let me know for sure.
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I didn't follow a few I checked. They got my hopes up that it was a 2008 and it's actually the 2006. I'll see if I can find the URL that I used. It's on Apple's site somewhere.
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/identify-mac-serial.php
So, I was slightly bored last night....
I created a Lion installer on an external drive I had and proceeded to add 2X320G drives into my MacPro #1 and #2 trays (Yes, I finally found them.) and decided I wanted to see how they would run in Raid0 (via Apple software raid).
Having never setup an Apple raid, I did some GoogleFu and found a site to assist with that.
So I selected the external to boot from and restarted. Granted, it's a slow 1TB external drive, it did the trick, just slower.... I was finally able to get a fresh install of Lion on the raided drives, about 35 minutes later.
On boot up, I opted to migrate my data from the previous drive. Everything went smoothly. Logged in it felt slow. I figured it to be a little faster but, it didn't feel like it.
So I rebooted and wow... mind you, it's not a 2012 with SSD fast but, it was a lot faster. Everything (Chrome for example) would take 15+- seconds to load. Now it's down to 7 or 8 seconds. (I know, read my previous statement.) So I think for now, until I can get myself a SSD drive, this is going to work pretty well.
I'm considering getting two 128G SSDs and Raid0 them. I'll have them backed up via TimeMachine so, if one fails, it's okay. Or would I really benefit from it? I guess if I don't, I'll just go with a single 128G SSD and route the Users directory to a 2TB drive and keep the apps on the SSD.
Anyways, if you read this far down, thanks!
I created a Lion installer on an external drive I had and proceeded to add 2X320G drives into my MacPro #1 and #2 trays (Yes, I finally found them.) and decided I wanted to see how they would run in Raid0 (via Apple software raid).
Having never setup an Apple raid, I did some GoogleFu and found a site to assist with that.
So I selected the external to boot from and restarted. Granted, it's a slow 1TB external drive, it did the trick, just slower.... I was finally able to get a fresh install of Lion on the raided drives, about 35 minutes later.
On boot up, I opted to migrate my data from the previous drive. Everything went smoothly. Logged in it felt slow. I figured it to be a little faster but, it didn't feel like it.
So I rebooted and wow... mind you, it's not a 2012 with SSD fast but, it was a lot faster. Everything (Chrome for example) would take 15+- seconds to load. Now it's down to 7 or 8 seconds. (I know, read my previous statement.) So I think for now, until I can get myself a SSD drive, this is going to work pretty well.
I'm considering getting two 128G SSDs and Raid0 them. I'll have them backed up via TimeMachine so, if one fails, it's okay. Or would I really benefit from it? I guess if I don't, I'll just go with a single 128G SSD and route the Users directory to a 2TB drive and keep the apps on the SSD.
Anyways, if you read this far down, thanks!
So, I was slightly bored last night....
I created a Lion installer on an external drive I had and proceeded to add 2X320G drives into my MacPro #1 and #2 trays (Yes, I finally found them.) and decided I wanted to see how they would run in Raid0 (via Apple software raid).
Having never setup an Apple raid, I did some GoogleFu and found a site to assist with that.
So I selected the external to boot from and restarted. Granted, it's a slow 1TB external drive, it did the trick, just slower.... I was finally able to get a fresh install of Lion on the raided drives, about 35 minutes later.
On boot up, I opted to migrate my data from the previous drive. Everything went smoothly. Logged in it felt slow. I figured it to be a little faster but, it didn't feel like it.
So I rebooted and wow... mind you, it's not a 2012 with SSD fast but, it was a lot faster. Everything (Chrome for example) would take 15+- seconds to load. Now it's down to 7 or 8 seconds. (I know, read my previous statement.) So I think for now, until I can get myself a SSD drive, this is going to work pretty well.
I'm considering getting two 128G SSDs and Raid0 them. I'll have them backed up via TimeMachine so, if one fails, it's okay. Or would I really benefit from it? I guess if I don't, I'll just go with a single 128G SSD and route the Users directory to a 2TB drive and keep the apps on the SSD.
Anyways, if you read this far down, thanks!
I have 2 RAIDed SSD's and it's crazy fast for booting, and apps!
Enjoy it!
Great! I appreciate it. I'm considering it but, not sure if I want to go two 128s SSDs or one 256G.
The thing is you are capped at 300MB/s with SATAII per port.
Most SSD's can hit that pretty easily.
But, with RAID0 using two ports, your cap is at 600MB/s, it gives you a little more room.
300MB/s * 1.8= 540MB/s, see the head room, from 540 to 600. These are approximations of course, your mileage may vary.
The thing is you are capped at 300MB/s with SATAII per port.
Most SSD's can hit that pretty easily.
But, with RAID0 using two ports, your cap is at 600MB/s, it gives you a little more room.
300MB/s * 1.8= 540MB/s, see the head room, from 540 to 600. These are approximations of course, your mileage may vary.
Very cool. I think I'm going to go with two 128G SSDs then. I appreciate the info!
I just finished editing my first video on my MP (in iMovie). WOW baby.
Granted, it was only a 3:10 video but, on my MB with a 128G SSD (See sig) it'd take 25+- minutes for that length.
I'm happy!