browser incompatibility unacceptable

[DarkHeraldMage]

Has my suggestion even been attempted? I'm using FF now at work, a company which only lets us use IE6 and won't let us upgrade our own computers or install software of any kind. Clevin, your solution is almost identical to mine. Either one should work. This thread has shot off in a completely different direction. *shakes head*

 

[ihabime]

well, the problem is, why IE7 is almost ok, while IE6 is not? since there is no significant differences (if ANY) of how IE handle JS and DOM between version 6 and IE7.

javascript support, IE is doing even better than safari http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(ECMAScript)

Apple helps firefox? with mobile me? I appreciate the guess. But I doubt, highly, thats what apple was thinking. Consider SJ previously intended to wipe firefox out of the market ( a nice dream too ).

The IE6 and 7 issues may be caused by CSS support, which sproutcore uses heavily.

I didn't mean help in an altruistic way, more of an enemy of my enemy thing. Safari's compliance is more of a subset of firefox's than IE's, so any move away from IE helps safari.

Jobs tried to kill firefox? You're not referring to that kerfuffle John Lily made over a slide from WWDC 07 are you? That always seemed like serious x-files level paranoia to me, "Steve is beaming secret messages to the faithful, look see in this one slide it's only IE and Safari, Steve wants them to kill Firefox." Not that I doubt he wouldn't want Safari to be in that position, but I seriously question whether he's a reptilian alien, the greys always seemed more like his aesthetic style

 

[BillyBobBongo]

This thread has shot off in a completely different direction. *shakes head*

They nearly always do!

*Breaks out the dancing badgers*

Look! Mushrooms!

 

[clevin]

Has my suggestion even been attempted? I'm using FF now at work, a company which only lets us use IE6 and won't let us upgrade our own computers or install software of any kind. Clevin, your solution is almost identical to mine. Either one should work. This thread has shot off in a completely different direction. *shakes head*

yes, actually what you said is quite identical as mine. OP should try out.

Jobs tried to kill firefox? You're not referring to that kerfuffle John Lily made over a slide from WWDC 07 are you?

sorry, I agree with what Jon Lily said because I intelligently looked at the substance and came to same conclusion as John.

I don't agree with something just because somebody said it, I agree with it because thats most likely true with the facts I have and logical reasoning.

The fact is there, what other explanation did you come up with?

Enemy's enemy thing, yeah, I agree, I would like Apple to do so in a healthy manner. Not using misleading ads and forced push method. I take reputation seriously, if apple wants to lose on this, I would rather firefox stay away from it. Firefox is rising on the reputation, and doesn't have the advantages of pre-installation as IE or safari, it better stays smart and careful.

PS. about CSS thing, yes, there is differences between IE6 and IE7, but they are both bad, so If IE7 works, it shouldn't be difficult to do the same in IE6.

 

[ihabime]

Has my suggestion even been attempted? I'm using FF now at work, a company which only lets us use IE6 and won't let us upgrade our own computers or install software of any kind. Clevin, your solution is almost identical to mine. Either one should work. This thread has shot off in a completely different direction. *shakes head*

Yeah, that's probably my fault, sorry.

As to the OPs problem, You can change IE6s User Agent, but it requires a registry edit, so it's probably prohibited too.

The fact is there, what other explanation did you come up with?

I just rewatched it to check my memory, it really is just a 1 second slide transition, hardly a declaration of war. I think it's more an example of Jobs ego, he doesn't see firefox at all, it's not a threat to him, windows and IE is. Notice how in the comparisons he makes a big point of comparing Safari to IE and then mentions firefox almost as an afterthought. Not that I agree with him, but it's just Jobs being Jobs. He may be good at keeping Apple alive, but the man has an ego bigger than the moon. As an example, a couple minutes later he introduces the original 'iPhone web SDK', who else could say that straight faced and actually believe it?

btw, I didn't mean to insult you with the x-files thing, it really was just a joke, but I'm gonna stop now , because I don't want this to get further derailed and end up in the wasteland, the OP has a real problem that Apple should fix.

 

[dejo]

Seems to me that since your employer has your computer pretty locked down and you have no real business reason to access your MobileMe at work, you're SOL.

 

[danredwing]

I haven't tried the firefox thing yet, but night this evening before heading home. Hopefully that will help and be a workable solution. I still feel frustrated that I have to come up with some strange workaround though.

The way that I look at it, it is not truly "accessible from the web" if it is only for specific browsers. Kind of reminds me Steve Jobs saying that the iphone delivers the real internet. At this point, flash is pretty standard and there are significant websites that are not viewable with the iphone. Nike.com is a great example. To my mind, this is not truly the "real internet" and Mobileme as it stands is not accessible from the real internet.

Interestingly, you can't even see the Mobilme login page from the iphone. Different reason, but I hate being redirected away from it because they assume that I won't want to look at it.

dejo, to assume that I don't have business checking my .mac (me) account from work is presumptuous. My company chooses to not allow mobile drives or PDA type devices for security reasons but many of my colleagues use Blackberries, Pocket PCs and other such devices for contact and calendar management. I actually am more interested in the mobilme calendar and contacts than the email and was pretty excited at the prospect of being able to keep a digital copy on my desktop and have changes pushed to my phone.
I also use my .mac/ me account to keep in touch with my staff when I'm out of the office on calls throughout the day.

it would be cool if my company had enterprise set up and provided this stuff to us, but banks are notorious for not doing this.

dan

 

[dejo]

dejo, to assume that I don't have business checking my .mac (me) account from work is presumptuous. ...
I also use my .mac/ me account to keep in touch with my staff when I'm out of the office on calls throughout the day.

Well, then, sounds like you do have a real business reason to want access to MobileMe at/during work. Now, you just need to justify to IT why they should make a change in that regard. A good cost-benefit analysis should help support your request.