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Hidden benefit of having a phone ineligible for Apple Intelligence? 🤣

I only got that message above once I indicated on my MBA that I was ready to initiate AI. It downloaded all the "stuff" in the background then OP's popup showed up to let me know I needed to do something. The install took a few minutes and then I had to answer some questions. I've since turned it all off because I didn't like it, and I've gotten no messages from MacOS about it whatsoever. Same thing on my wife's MBA.
 
People don’t want Apple to nag them about features they don’t want or need
Of course "People don’t want Apple to nag them about features they don’t want or need." Does that justify that we get an MR headline post and multiple pages of whining about a message a few folks have seen once? If it continually pops up (i.e. twenty times, not three times) then we can all rant.
 
Someone who clearly hasn't had windows 11 automatically opt in their data to one drive backup and then nag to charge for space and threaten to delete your data
Apple is already doing this with iCloud on iOS/iPadOS upgrades. It's a race to turn them off every time I update my iDevices
 
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Agreed, but a reported 73% of Apple users chose to not install Apple Intelligence when the honking great window was part of the install at the last OS update. Very little has come out since in the Media (tech or otherwise) to suggest that it's an essential bit of kit, while the option to enable it afterwards does exist.
And that’s a thing I’m sure Apple is looking at. They’re spending billions of dollars making this so if most people aren’t using it then it likely won’t be a thing in the future. Apple is likely being pushed by experts in the tech industry that say AI is the future. Apple doesn’t want to be the next Blackberry so they are trying to adopt this future.


Like lots of hidden features / controls that exist on even the iPhone, but we don't get popup nags about them. The web can always direct even the non-tech nerds to them, if need be. And if an app / feature doesn't gain traction, then yeah, maybe it isn't worth the trouble.
The Web rarely directs average users to any features. Either they’re obvious, they find them by accident, someone tells them, or they don’t use them. I have many friends that I’ve shown features that they didn’t even know about. Most people don’t watch YouTube videos about “ The top 10 hidden iPhone features that you wish you knew about” 😂😂


It would be awesome if Apple intelligence disappeared. I’d settle for the ability to delete the 4GB of data it takes up on my computer
I’m sure a lot of people feel this way. I think this is why Apple is pushing it so that way there’s no confusion if people want it or not.
 
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I get that there's a lot of anti-AI sentiment going around.

But, ignoring the specifics of what the notification is referring to, isn't this inline with what Apple usually does when a new OS drops?

I feel like there's always these "Tips" on the new stuff that they want us to be aware of.

And wasn't everyone begging to get access to Apple Intelligence just a few weeks ago?

I'm also pretty sure the notifications go away if you just click on it once.
 
I'm also pretty sure the notifications go away if you just click on it once.

Just appeared again for me (around 6 hours after the first time I dismissed it?). This time, when I clicked the X to close the alert, it took me to Apple Intelligence in System Settings instead of just going away, which seemed odd. The only button available there is to turn it on, not an on/off switch. I clicked the Learn More button and closed the window, since that was the only other option I saw (Siri is already turned off).

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Will be interesting to see if it continues to nag about this. No, it's not something horrible but it is a bit annoying. I agree they're pushing this because they made a big bet on AI and now hope for as much adoption as possible.
 
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Profile to disable notifications from com.apple.FollowUpSettings.FollowUpSettingsExtension
I can't test it because I don't have Sequoia with Apple Intelligence
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That’s being extremely short sighted.

I'd argue any utility of this in the long run is long sighted to the point that haze has obscured the destination.

I think I've shot down nearly every LLM use case as solving the wrong problem so far. Everything I've been told is possible is achievable at lower cost with absolute determinism by changing the question to the right one...
 
I have to use a Windows 11 laptop for work. Every single application fires up notification after notification all over the place to remind me about features. You guys getting one or two on your Mac is nothing in comparison.

Today, Slack told me three times about a new way of doing a huddle.

Teams constantly puts annoying little blue boxes in the way of things I want to press, telling me they're improved X feature that I never use.

You have a choice in the OS you use. You chose well. macOS is heaven compared to Windows pish.
 
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It’s just pointing out a new feature that people may not realize exists. Most Mac users aren’t tech nerds. Remember those features you really like will disappear if normal people don’t realize they are there and use them. 3D touch anyone?
Maybe if we continue to ignore it they will kill Apple Intelligence like they killed 3D Touch and the Touch Bar.
 
I'd argue any utility of this in the long run is long sighted to the point that haze has obscured the destination.

I'm already using it to assist with writing change management request, asking queries of documents, and generating code boilerplate. But you don't need to go that far.

LLMs are great at interpreting language. Random example: A plumber or other tradesman could feed it the design document and then just use natural language queries against it to answer questions and provide a citation from the document where the information was found (potentially from his smartwatch, while he's working). That's not even complex AI, that's just document summarisation and querying. And that's something that could be done today with some minor, minor pieces of glue to tie say, Siri on the watch into chatgpt.

If you aren't investigating and looking into how these new models can help with your day to day now, you're well behind the curve - you're like the people hanging onto their electric typewriters for writing business letters because they don't trust these newfangled computers.

Work smarter, not harder.
 
So far the only feature useful to me that Apple AI provides is Clean Up in the Photos app. I got it on the Mac, and don't want it on my iPhone anyway because I want precision using a mouse.

All other features like Image Playground are just gimmicks, while the rest of them I can just use ChatGPT or Gemini (e.g. Proofread)
And the problem with Cleanup (an AI-assisted app, even without Apple Intelligence installed by user) is that it can be not as granular as Retouch, which it replaced (on iPhone and Mac). Especially if it thinks what you are trying to cleanup / remove is a face. Left instead with a pixellated blob. This is an improvement?

As you point out otherwise, the rest of the features appear to be "Squirrel!" distractions.
 
I'm already using it to assist with writing change management request, asking queries of documents, and generating code boilerplate. But you don't need to go that far.

LLMs are great at interpreting language. Random example: A plumber or other tradesman could feed it the design document and then just use natural language queries against it to answer questions and provide a citation from the document where the information was found (potentially from his smartwatch, while he's working). That's not even complex AI, that's just document summarisation and querying. And that's something that could be done today with some minor, minor pieces of glue to tie say, Siri on the watch into chatgpt.

If you aren't investigating and looking into how these new models can help with your day to day now, you're well behind the curve - you're like the people hanging onto their electric typewriters for writing business letters because they don't trust these newfangled computers.

Work smarter, not harder.

Lets throw those use cases on the table shall we and look at them objectively:

1. Change management request. If this is a change control board sort of thing under ISO 9001 then it should be fairly established what the process is and that should be simply defined with a form. A word template is fine for that stuff. Just fill the fields in yourself - the complicated bit is thinking of the impact assessment of the change which is domain specific and outside the model's scope of knowledge. If you use an LLM the format will be randomly generated so the output will not necessarily be consistent between each change control document.

2. Querying documents. As LLMs are just statistical representations of the tokenised document in the first place, they aren't necessarily capable of picking up things such as nuance and idioms which change the context of the writing completely. On top of that there is no guarantee the interpretation is correct. In fact I saw someone shoot themselves in the toes by being utterly lazy, asking an LLM to do exactly that and then going and blowing their toes right off. In this case it resulted in them being fired.

3. Generating code boilerplate. If you need lots of boilerplate, then the fault is with the programming language. This is a crutch and a result of our terrible programming languages which haven't evolved much since Algol 68 and smalltalk other than wrapping crap syntax around them. Better to look at some really old papers on abstracting intent through domain specific languages for example. I've written a couple of DSLs over time which describe things like state machines, workflows, user interfaces and mathematical constraints (think CAS etc) and compile down to native code. That is better than writing boilerplate. Describe your problems better!

Really your options when it comes to LLMs are:

1. Trust the ramblings of a non-deterministic statistical crack head implicitly and entirely forget about the risks. This appears to be everyone's naive approach. This incurs nothing but risk.

2. Validate the statistical crack head's ramblings which is considerably harder and more time consuming than the initial task you asked it to perform in the first place. This incurs the cost of the LLM and additional time over doing the work yourself.

3. Do the work yourself in the first place and look at traditional methods of automating it (templates / don't bother / think for 5 minutes)

An LLM is absolutely fine if you need to generate something with has no measurable veracity or trust and does not need validation and has no value. And that is of entirely no use whatsoever to most people. Really people lack the objectivity and the ability to critically evaluate if technology is effective, blindly trusting the "boilerplate" marketing out there.

In my field, mathematics and statistics, we even have some people enamoured with it to point they have stopped all functional work and research to go all in on this because the marketing is driving research budgets now.

And please don't give me the "rapid improvements" thing because every 5% gain in accuracy, above 50% which is terrible, doubles both the model generation cost, increases the execution cost and requires more information. Thus it'll likely never get to 90% before we run out of money, energy and information to feed the grifting sharks with.

I await the market crash and next AI winter. I can't wait to short the hell out of that, make a ton of money then buy myself a nice new Herman Miller Aeron on the cheap from one of the AI startups that went under (as my current one is wearing out from the blockchain crash) and get by nice burger served by a former £120k salaried prompt engineer.

Rant over.
 
It would be awesome if Apple intelligence disappeared. I’d settle for the ability to delete the 4GB of data it takes up on my computer
Yeah that 4.9 GB is a real pain for those of us on the 256 GB model. I'm trying to keep it as lean as possible.

I have it disabled entirely and even when using terminal trickery to delete it, it just redownloads it all again immediately.
 
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