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Bummer + Lame + Capitalism = Apple Inc. (Video & Pics)

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Saw the vid and yeah that noise is weird. However the curved/uneven flush display is a known defect. I think its from the fact that aluminum is very light and very malleable. Hence when carving these display frames, they rarely do it perfectly, some out there are carved perfectly and flush properly with the base but most dont.

Hopefully the next redesign will incoporate the magnetic latch...eliminating this issue. As for the noise, yeah, a genius bar appointment is in order. Although, just a thought (i just did the noise test and mine makes the same noise but not as loud) but could the noise stem from the fact that you're moving the laptop vigorously whilst the HDD is spinning/seeking/reading forcing it to stall.....combined with possibility that the built in HDD protection (Sudden Motion Sensor?) may be trying to determine whether to park the HDD heads or not?
 
Definitely another dud. Hope your 3rd one turns out better.

The curved lid is to actually make it so the keyboard doesn't rub and scratch against the screen.
 
killerrobot said:
\The curved lid is to actually make it so the keyboard doesn't rub and scratch against the screen.
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No it is not, it's a design flaw. Pure and simple.

daneoni said:
Saw the vid and yeah that noise is weird. However the curved/uneven flush display is a known defect. I think its from the fact that aluminum is very light and very malleable. Hence when carving these display frames, they rarely do it perfectly, some out there are carved perfectly and flush properly with the base but most dont.

Hopefully the next redesign will incoporate the magnetic latch...eliminating this issue.
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I don't see how a magnetic latch in the middle will cure this problem. They already tried adding an extra catch to the 15" MBP - the 15" powerbook only has one catch - and it made no difference whatsoever (two catches never made a difference on the 17PB either so...).

Unless the magnetic catch is damn strong and goes right the way across the front of the palm rest, it will still bow at one or both of the ends. Perhaps they could fix it by putting the catches further out, but basically it's the manufacturing process and material that's to blame for this issue.
 
I don't understand the issue at all. I was expecting something shocking-and instead see the computer waved around frantically WHILE IT'S RUNNING, making a noise that sounds like it's connected to that motion. A fan, or the hard drive, or something is getting thrown around.

I don't understand what Apple is supposed to fix. If it did that while it was just sitting there, but I doubt you're supposed to flail it around like that. I wouldn't do that to a disk based iPod on purpose.
 
AlBDamned said:
No it is not, it's a design flaw. Pure and simple.



I don't see how a magnetic latch in the middle will cure this problem. They already tried adding an extra catch to the 15" MBP - the 15" powerbook only has one catch - and it made no difference whatsoever (two catches never made a difference on the 17PB either so...).

Unless the magnetic catch is damn strong and goes right the way across the front of the palm rest, it will still bow at one or both of the ends. Perhaps they could fix it by putting the catches further out, but basically it's the manufacturing process and material that's to blame for this issue.
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...yeah the magnetic catch runs along the palm rest in the MacBook line, not just the center. So just do the same for the MBPs
 
My iBook isn't perfectly smooth when closed but that is specifically because of the rubber stoppers on the corners of the monitor. This isn't the case with the MBP?

I understand the yellow tint problem, and that sucks (though I couldn't see it in your pictures). As for the case being slightly mis-aligned when closed? Umm, so what? It does close doesn't it? Perfection is a nice thing to aim for, but we are nitpicking on that one. And its been nitpicked about for a loooong time now. They obviously can't get that degree of perfection of their production line. So therefore it must be normal.
 
daneoni said:
...yeah the magnetic catch runs along the palm rest in the MacBook line, not just the center. So just do the same for the MBPs
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Really? I thought it was just a section in the middle. Well that would work I guess, although as said it will need to be pretty strong to keep the ends pulled down.
 
i think its gonna take sometime before the QC becomes better, right now i think apple is coping with the shortage of the new MBP, both in sales and replacements :)
Moral of the story, dont buy a Rev A product, even its a Rev A of a Rev C :D
 
hayduke said:
As for the "curvature" of the lid I don't think that is out of spec. You are pressing on one side to demonstrate how "bent" it is, but the screens aren't even designed to be *perfectly* flat. You won't get Apple to fix or replace your machine because of that. If the screen is as bad as it appears in the photo then you'll likely receive another. Sorry you got a bum one.
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That doesn't seem right for the screen to wobble like that. My Lenovo which I bought for $600 new on eBay closes tight and even. For the price you paid I can see why you are upset. The only way that Apple will improve their quality is if people complain enough and it starts to cost them.
 
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Not sure what the fuss is about.

Why are you wobbling your MBP so furiously like that? Reminds me of a TV show in Scotland called Chewin' The Fat where one character thinks he's invisible and picks up spoons and wobbles them in the exact same way as you - couldn't help but smile at that video!

My MBP closes fine, but does it matter that there is a slight gap there? No. Does it affect performance? No. Can you see it when it is closed? No. Is there only a problem because you push one side? Yes.

Do you have a cd in the drive slot? It sounds like there is, and this is a problem for all slot drives. Since the disc doesn't get surely locked into the drive, it can move slightly and if you are rotating the laptop furiously like you are then you are obviously going to get it moving slightly hence the noise.

If you take the disc out of the drive, then you won't have that problem. I've never met anyone who puts a disc into a computer then starts shaking it and moans about how it is making a strange noise. I'm sure if we shook your head enough you'd start making a strange noise.

If there isn't a disc in the slot drive, then I appologise for the above comments.
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I guess you didn't watch the second video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfnexPFpwY8

I put a CD in at the end.
 
powermac_daddy said:
I guess you didn't watch the second video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfnexPFpwY8

I put a CD in at the end.
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I'm still having trouble understanding what the issue is, like I mentioned above.

Can you explain again why this is an issue? I mean, when does this come up in your normal use?

I just have trouble understanding how "laptop makes loud noise when I shake it and wave it around" is an issue that would affect a normal laptop user.

-Zadillo
 
Zadillo said:
I'm still having trouble understanding what the issue is, like I mentioned above.

Can you explain again why this is an issue? I mean, when does this come up in your normal use?

I just have trouble understanding how "laptop makes loud noise when I shake it and wave it around" is an issue that would affect a normal laptop user.

-Zadillo
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The reason I returned (fedex today) the computer, was mainly about the yellowish screen. However, it makes unusual noise when it's on; it goes crazy when I pick it up. Plus, the screen is slightly bent.

The first one was totally fine but the yellowish overcast, no fan noise problem, screen is not bent. The second one was like a refurbished machine. Again, it's $3,100. I didn't pay for a computer with a yellowish screen and unhappy fans. Do you get it?
 
powermac_daddy said:
The reason I returned (fedex today) the computer, was mainly about the yellowish screen. However, it makes unusual noise when it's on; it goes crazy when I pick it up. Plus, the screen is slightly bent.

The first one was totally fine but the yellowish overcast, no fan noise problem, screen is not bent. The second one was like a refurbished machine. Again, it's $3,100. I didn't pay for a computer with a yellowish screen and unhappy fans. Do you get it?
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OK, yes, that makes more sense.

The problem with your video is that it makes it unclear why you are unhappy. The picture I get from that video is "When I shake this laptop violently it makes loud noises". I hope you can understand why that was a bit puzzling - in and of itself, it just seems like an odd problem that would not happen in normal usage.

I think the video might be more effective if it just captured the noise when it is sitting still, or maybe just when picking it up normally (not shaking it violently all over the place).

Now that you explain it makes unusual noises even when it's just sitting still, that's something else, and I understand.

So anyway, good luck on the replacement.

-Zadillo
 
AlBDamned said:
Really? I thought it was just a section in the middle. Well that would work I guess, although as said it will need to be pretty strong to keep the ends pulled down.
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Actually slight error, it seems the magnets aren't running along the palm rest but rather the entire display bezel/frame, as can be seen here and here. Also seems to be fairly strong.
 
daneoni said:
Actually slight error, it seems the magnets aren't running along the palm rest but rather the entire display bezel/frame it seems, as can be seen here and here. Also seems to be fairly strong.
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Talk about a junk collector! Your laptop looks like a trash dump. Made me chuckle though :p
 
Stop waving the notebook, for Christ sake. If you have to do that for your camera to pick up on the odd noise, then chances are the noise is related to you light-sabering it through the air.
 
Blimey.

Good luck on the 3rd laptop - when anything is mass produced you are always going to get a few dodgy ones. Just unlucky that you had 2 dodgy ones in a row.
 
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